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The First Time I Heard of Barack (with additional info)
Free Republic ^ | Sept 19, 2009 | Tom Fife

Posted on 09/20/2009 1:17:34 AM PDT by BP2

Has anyone heard of this before? I did a search but came up negative.

Very interesting and if you list to the tape the man sounds very genuine.

Here’s his written confession which happened to a physicist when he was in Russia:

The leader of the Communist Party USA may not be the only one doing Communist cartwheels. Brace yourself for what I’m about to say next. Last fall, prior to the presidential election, a friend of mine, Dr. Wiley Drake, former second vice president for the Southern Baptist Convention, sent me an e-mail on which I didn’t report. It just seemed too extreme. It was from a software developer
he met named Tom Fife who told of how he first heard of the name “Barack.”

I can’t prove whether it’s true or not, but in light of all that is happening, it just doesn’t seem that far-fetched anymore. All I know is that Tom Fife is a real guy – not some e-mail scam. I’ve talked to him. He was a government contractor with an active security clearance who took notes on his trips for debriefings with the Defense Intelligence Agency within the Department of Defense. This is what he wrote down after it happened in 1992, before anyone ever heard the name “Barack”:

The first time I heard of Barack

During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid-1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.

V. was a level-headed scientist, while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause – a cause she obviously was not abandoning.

One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.’s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.

As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge – one her husband tried to quietly rein in.

The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:

“You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven’t you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice president and you didn’t do it.”

The general response went something along the lines that you don’t vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don’t vote for vice president, but the president and vice president as a ticket.

“Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon.”

The consensus we expressed was that we didn’t think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she, black or not.

“What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?”

The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, “Well, you will; and he will be a Communist.”

It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, “It sounds like you know something we don’t know.”

“Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born, and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of presidents. He is what you call ‘Ivy League.’ You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That’s right, a chocolate baby! And he’s going to be your president.”

She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly – as though all were foregone conclusions. “It’s all been thought out. His father is not an American black, so he won’t have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He’s gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America.”

We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: They would give us a black president and he’d be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.

She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the Legislature. “Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet.”

At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn’t understand what the point was and don’t recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.

Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: “If I remember correctly, ‘Barack’ comes from the Arabic word for ‘Blessing.’ That seems to be an odd name for an American.” She replied quickly, “Yes. It is ‘African,’” she insisted, “and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world.”

She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism, and Barack was going to pave the way.

So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?

Well, it’s definitely anecdotal. It doesn’t prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.

Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30-plus years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.

There have been attempts to discredit Fife with made up details, but the original version of Fife’s story is posted online. Fife can be reached at: thefife@hotmail.com.

Whether you believe this story or not, believe what the Communist Party USA has to say. Spending our way to the largest government in American history won’t stimulate anything … other than the agenda of the Communist Party: taking over the private sector and capping people’s salaries. And that’s just for starters. Call your senators at 202-224-3121 right now to stop this massive government takeover masquerading as a “stimulus” spending bill. Forget the hype: The world isn’t going to end if this bill isn’t passed, but democracy may end if it does.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=88439

Here’s the audio:
http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_T_Fife_031009.mp3

Listening to the tape the man sounds authentic.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; communism; communist; communistcoup; cpusa; fife; liberalfascism; obama; president; putin; tomfife
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To: BP2

BTW, I have heard this account before.

I feel like we’re in the Twilight Zone.


101 posted on 09/21/2009 1:11:33 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: BP2

FARC logistics chief extradited to U.S.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/09/20/FARC-logistics-chief-extradited-to-US/UPI-22581253433208/

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Students of revisionist history will remember that Bill Clinton disappeared from Oxford University in England for a while in 1970 and surfaced in Moscow (courtesy of the CIA) purportedly to be trained in communism. When the accompanying story first appeared, we could not locate its source for confirmation and cast it off as a probable Internet fairy tale.

But we have since interviewed Tom Fife, blended the information with the many accusations of high-profile politicos (such as former UN Ambassador Alan Keyes) and witnessed the communistic behavior of the White House occupant, and we have no of doubt the authenticity of this amazing piece. —Ed.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/global_elite_picked_obama_171.html

(Issue # 12, March 23, 2009)


102 posted on 09/21/2009 1:27:51 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: BP2

FP: So tell us how the Soviet Union trained some of our Islamist enemies.

Rasmussen: It became clear to me that the entrance into the Soviet system for practically all foreign students was the Lumumba University. (Click here and also Click here) After one or two years of language training and “political training” here they were then distributed to other educational institutions according to their capabilities and desires.

Those who were talented agitators stayed back at the Lumumba University. Those who were mere thugs with severe personality disorders were sent to Romania and Bulgaria to learn guerrilla warfare. Bulgaria was the playground for large scale guerrilla operations including the use of mortars and anti tank weapons, while Romania had many centers for city guerrilla warfare.

The smarter ones were sent to other places such as Czechoslovakia or Eastern Germany. In Czechoslovakia they were given an education as chemical engineers at the so-called “Semtex University”. (Click here and Click here) The education was genuine and serious, but what really made my hairs stand on one end was the immense overweight of practical training in the preparation and use of explosives. It was taught to the Iranian students even down to the minutest details that these skills were deemed necessary if their “revolutionary aims” were to succeed.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Printable.aspx?ArtId=2928


103 posted on 09/21/2009 1:59:48 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: BP2

The PLO/Fatah movement remains true to its communist roots today, with Moscow-trained Mahmoud Abbas serving as chairman of the PLO. Abbas studied for a doctorate from Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow, finishing in 1982. KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov explained back in 1984 that Patrice Lumumba University was “under the direct control of the KGB and [the] Central Committee, where future leaders of the so-called ‘National Liberation Movements’ are being educated and selected carefully….

They were dispatched back to their countries to be leaders of the so-called ‘National Liberation Movements,’ or, to be translated into normal human language, leaders of international terrorist groups.” Abbas then defended his thesis at the Oriental Studies of the Soviet Academy of Sciences, which was then headed by former KGB General Yevgeny Primakov.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/asia-mainmenu-33/1782


104 posted on 09/21/2009 2:03:31 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: BP2
Certainly fits the facts.

Μολὼν λάβε


105 posted on 09/21/2009 2:21:16 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: STARWISE
From Russia With Love.

Raila Odinga educated in East Germany. Named his son Fidel. Obama helped Raila's Islamist murder/rape drive for power.

Campaigned for it; counseled it; financed it.

Obama is behaving in the precise manner we would predict were he a product of KGB Active Measures.

He has just made Papa Putin proud by renouncing our missile defense which so irritated the post-Soviet Commies in gangsta drag.

Barack Apparatchik Obamanov.

106 posted on 09/21/2009 2:26:51 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: STARWISE

They wouldn’t use his picture if this was an intelligence message.

Back in the day, newspaper stories were used to get messages out.


107 posted on 09/21/2009 3:40:27 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: PhilDragoo; BP2
Although I find the following paragraph difficult to follow, I think what the author conveys is that Raila Odinga is the ' Moscow's Patrice Lumumba University-trained Prime Minister...'

Today Kenya is run by a ruling coalition of the aging and ill President Mwai Kabaki, heir to the Kikuyu dominance of the earliest Kenyatta years, and the prison-schooled son of the early Luo leader, Oginga Odinga, Moscow's Patrice Lumumba University-trained Prime Minister Raila Odinga...

AMERICAN SPECTATOR LINK

108 posted on 09/21/2009 3:46:03 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: BP2

They can’t control him. Look at the damage he is doing.

Maybe their only control is getting certain pieces of info out so that the public and Congress will mistrust him..but they have to get some Democrats on board since they have the votes.

I think it would be a good lesson for America to learn they actually let in a Russian plant.

However, are there many in our government who are culpable. Look at the Weather Underground guys. Nothing happened to most of them and the ones that went to jail got pardoned.

Someone in the government was working with them or protecting them.


109 posted on 09/21/2009 3:47:26 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Fred Nerks

As far as I know, the largest infilitration into the US Government was done by Scientology through Operation Snow White.

If Scientology could do it, then certainly the KGB could do it.


110 posted on 09/21/2009 3:53:20 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: BP2

I guess I take a somewhat less sinister view of this issue. I think that people like Clinton (who toured Russia with help) and Obama may tacitly understand that they are dealing with leftists/radicals. Undoubtedly, these individuals and their related organizations have received funding and assistance from nefarious communist organizations.

However, I think that, rather than directly communicating with their protege or whatever, the communists consciously act as cheerleaders for their proteges. It would be too dangerous and damaging to have direct communications with their targets. Thus, any such “wayward” individual can consciously associate with these leftist causes yet have plausible deniability about being a a communist pawn.

I met a conservative fellow once who grew up in the 60s. He said that it was common knowledge that all of the senior leadership of SDS were rabid communists and that anyone who dealt with them (e.g., Clinton) were, in many ways, dealing with the devil. However, given the tight cell-oriented behavior of these organizations, one could claim to be a supporter or to be sympathetic, yet still avoid being called a communist sympathizer and the like.


111 posted on 09/21/2009 8:03:16 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: BP2

A huge BTTT.


112 posted on 09/21/2009 8:56:59 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: BP2
Why would they have just changed the first name and not also the surname (along with DOB) thus avoiding any potential future "deniability" issues?

Ping the cranks to this thread, they'll eat it up.

113 posted on 09/21/2009 9:19:53 AM PDT by jla
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To: sjeann; emmyloukay

Very interesting ping, to say the least.


114 posted on 09/21/2009 1:46:44 PM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: BP2

Email this to everybody!!!


115 posted on 09/21/2009 2:37:24 PM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: BP2; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...
Back when idiotic Jimmuh Carter was running against Reagan, the British Foreign Office (State Dept.) sent several hundred observers to the USA to spread out and monitor whether the Soviets would spend enough money and buy the election for Carter, (similar to Obama funding from overseas buying him teh last election). The British were convinced was a Soviet mole!

Even more than Obama, everything he did benefited the Soviet Union. The difference with Obana is that everything he does benefits Communism and accelerates the destruction of America.

Luckily, the Soviets did not have enough money to spare to do achieve that.

While on the subject of destroying America, among such efforts of the absolutely loony Obama advisers with his total support and encouragement is turning the nation's food basket of Southern California into a dust bowl for a bunch of minnows.

Even crazier is the proposal to DESTROY/REMOVE a couple of HUGE dams on rivers TO SAVE SALMON RUNS TO THEIR BREEDING GROUNDS!

Instead of building side, stepped channels for the salmon, Obama wants to destroy the dams and flood huge areas which it will take decades to restore - APART from the loss of power being generated by those dams.

Destroy, destroy, destroy under some idiotic ideological premises that would seem strange in a lunatic asylum. This is the same lunacy and any excuse to destroy the nation with his health care power grab nonsense,

116 posted on 09/21/2009 8:14:10 PM PDT by FARS ( Be happy, Be well)
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To: FARS

Since a Democratic (or RINO for that matter) controlled Congress won’t impeach him and the Supreme Court won’t hear any citizenship cases, what are we to do? We can’t wait another 3 or 4 years. He’ll have this country looking like East Germany way before that!


117 posted on 09/21/2009 8:20:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $1 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: FARS

I thought USSR declassfied docs after the USSR fell showed Carter was contacting Brezhnev trying to get the USSR to save his bacon in the 1980 election. All the money in the world was not gonna save Jimmy against Reagan.

Where did the $700 + million come to get Hussein elected?


118 posted on 09/21/2009 8:43:20 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: FARS

By now, many should be realizing that Barry & co are driven by dreams of Cloward-Piven. Everything this lying bastard does has a goal of bringing down one societal buttress after another. If he is not stopped soon, the 2012 election won’t matter. By destroying our economic resilience—yes, that is already a clear goal with cap&tax and obamacare—the quisling affirmative action figure has effectively painted the ultimate target upon our backs for al qaeda to ‘exploit the moment’. If this bastard hasn’t caused US to have another 911 event but perhaps much more deadly, within the next nine months, I will be astonished, actually. In fact, I expect it by Christmas of this year. And the democrat party is fully at fault yet they haven’t a clue that they are causing this Republic to die. They think they are radically transforming US into their societal engineering dream, but they are only stripping US for the enemies to murder.


119 posted on 09/21/2009 9:02:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


120 posted on 09/21/2009 9:09:10 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: PhilDragoo; BP2

http://www.jaluo.com/wangwach/200710/Leo_Odera_Omolo102507d.html

here’s the link to the article that shows one son of Oginga Odinga went to East Germany and the other son to the Patrice Lumumba University.


121 posted on 09/21/2009 9:24:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
And I like the bodacious assertion that the Odingas is a God Fearing family.

Which entered into a MEU with de Muslims.

De Muslims is not necessarily a God Fearing family in the way American clingers would understand the term.

East Germany. Patrice Lumumba. Knee of Uncle Frank. Not necessarily God Fearing.

Oh, but, Barack KGB Obama is a Christian.

122 posted on 09/21/2009 9:31:52 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: GeronL

Its Eddie Murphy.


123 posted on 09/21/2009 9:39:44 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: PhilDragoo

So, if there was an Odinga at the Patrice Lumumba University, it’s not surprising there may have been an Obama there as well.

Oginga Odinga had four wives and seventeen children. Two were named Raila and Oburu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaramogi_Oginga_Odinga

Religious? Sure. Muslim.


124 posted on 09/21/2009 10:35:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
I just found this with its direct link:

In capitalist-oriented Kenya, newly independent from Britain in 1963, the Soviets and their East European satellites rushed to open embassies. Washington quickly followed, offering exchange programs in America for Kenyan students to offset the offers from Moscow universities. A prominent politician, Oginga Odinga, was financed by Moscow in his political struggle with the first President, Jomo Kenyatta, a tactic that served to reinforce American enthusiasm for Mr. Kenyatta.

AFTER THE COLD WAR: Views From Africa; Stranded by Superpowers, Africa Seeks an Identity

Moscow financing Oginga. Obama campaigning for, and providing counseling and financing for, his East German-educated son Raila.

Obama himself being a special project of CPUSA member Frank Marshall Davis.

125 posted on 09/21/2009 10:50:50 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

from your link:

“...Moscow, judging the anticolonial fervor to be a good fit with Marxism, waded in first. In 1960, Nikita Khrushchev embraced African leaders at the United Nations, and Soviet embassies sprouted in barely known African countries...

That’s where I begin my summary of the OBAMA AFRICAN COLONIAL story -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=97#97


126 posted on 09/21/2009 11:08:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
My goodness, James Michener's Hawaii in a single post.

No Stanley Ann in Hawaii, but we have Obama Sr. by mysterious route and with mysterious authority--

--and we have Stanley Armour in a role confirming my suspicions he and Davis were fellow cell members, not merely whiskey and marijuana buddies.

Leaving a wider venue for Obama Jr.'s baby-daddy and birthplace/citizenship.

Your scholarship continues to be epic.

127 posted on 09/21/2009 11:50:42 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

In case you missed any of this on FR or AntiMullah (not usually on both but sometimes)

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/opposition-to-obama-motion-to-dismiss.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/iran-protests-will-not-be-filmedshown.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/death-spiral-of-islamic-iran-regime-but.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/only-terrorists-communists-or-community.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/acorn-helping-illegal-aliens-get-home.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/creative-plastic-curgery.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/death-by-thousand-cuts.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/oba-hussein-washington-stink.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-lawyer-we-will-arrest-opposition.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/axelrod-personified-looks-like-him.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/sixty-year-song-based-on-16-tons-of.html

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/america-what-have-you-done.html

info@antimullah.com


128 posted on 09/22/2009 12:11:25 AM PDT by FARS ( Be happy, Be well)
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To: PhilDragoo

thanks, there’s much more there on that thread...when you have the time.


129 posted on 09/22/2009 12:12:43 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: BP2

odd


130 posted on 09/22/2009 4:27:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: FARS; All

It is lunacy, albeit a very calculated kind. Obama has lined up rabid environmentalists, communists and a few big banks to destroy the economy, so he can take over everything . He promised a “New America” before the election. He just forgot the details.


131 posted on 09/22/2009 5:35:57 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: FARS
Luckily, the Soviets did not have enough money to spare to do achieve that. While on the subject of destroying America, among such efforts of the absolutely loony Obama advisers with his total support and encouragement is turning the nation's food basket of Southern California into a dust bowl for a bunch of minnows.

You made some good points here, FARS. It's easy to see the destruction in terms of "liberal nuttiness" but maybe it's just plain old destruction...

132 posted on 09/22/2009 6:35:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


133 posted on 09/22/2009 7:35:54 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: BP2
...rather he was going THROUGH then-Communist E.G....

What's an "E.G."?

134 posted on 09/22/2009 7:39:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: BP2

Got it: Equatorial Guinea


135 posted on 09/22/2009 7:41:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: BP2
Obama's room is more cramped than usual. His countryman Luis Alonso, who was studying in the Ukrainian city of Odessa, managed to buy a plane ticket at the old price and is headed home. But hotels cost too much so Alonso is camping out with Obama until he gets an exit visa.

"It's impossible for us to study. The universities have no money and our government has no money. We are hostages," said another countryman, Enrique Edu, 29, a law student at Baku University in Azerbaijan.

Ummm, would it be that hard to contact the other "students" and see if they remember ...

136 posted on 09/22/2009 7:45:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: BP2

When he unlawfully got a copy of Ryan’s divorce proceedings and used them to beat Ryan in Illinois with inuendo and lies. The gangster Obama has never changed.


137 posted on 09/22/2009 8:31:28 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: FARS
[Destroy, destroy, destroy under some idiotic ideological premises that would seem strange in a lunatic asylum.]

I sometimes think we are now living in one. Every day brings new unbelievable announcements of Obama’s intents - even though they are shrouded in devious wording to hide the truth.

Thank God for those of you who are strongly fighting it.

138 posted on 09/22/2009 11:03:30 AM PDT by potlatch
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To: FARS

I am convinced that Obama is doing everything he possibly can to damage or destroy America. He does not have a background as an American, but is a product of third world,countries like Indonesia and Kenya.

I am beginning to feel like a broken record, but Barack Obama is the greatest threat to America that we face today. I keep asking myself how this creep ever became POTUS.


139 posted on 09/22/2009 11:05:18 AM PDT by SkipW
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To: mojitojoe

Bump


140 posted on 09/22/2009 11:21:57 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: BP2

bump to the top


141 posted on 09/22/2009 5:36:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: BP2

Please add me to your ping list.


142 posted on 09/22/2009 6:54:13 PM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: BP2
Have you seen the picture of Obama with a shorter man in what appears to be a wood paneled closet or elevator - in what almost seems the moment before an embrace? I saw it this morning on one of the thread... If you know where it's at can you link me? Thanks.
143 posted on 09/23/2009 4:45:37 AM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: STARWISE

I’ve read it before, but generally chalked it up as CT.

One aspect which appears to be false is the modus operendi of the drunken female with loose lips.

If her incentive is to win an argument by mentioning something that is supposedly very secretive, then she definitely spilled more beans than required to satiate such a desire. The level of detail described would have required extensive planning with branch and sequel plans to implement.


144 posted on 09/23/2009 5:42:27 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: STARWISE; All

I have researched and found a possible connection. Read the original account from Mr. Fife and how he refers to a Mrs. T

Then check this link.

http://www.apfn.org/thewinds/2001/11/prediction.html

I think Dr. Tatyana Koryagina may be the Mrs. T in question.


145 posted on 09/23/2009 5:46:19 AM PDT by Watchdog85
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To: Yaelle
But was Barack Obama that guy? No way to know, unless of course his school records showed him here, stateside, for all four of his undergraduate years.

Probably why his college records are sealed. I wonder how popular the name "obama" is? What are the odds of this being another "obama"? This story is really strange.

146 posted on 09/23/2009 5:50:51 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: GeronL
I have heard the story before but the newspaper is new. Is there a date in evidence on it? Someone could verify that this exists if theres a date.

Seattle Times

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920213&slug=1475488

February 13, 1992

147 posted on 09/23/2009 6:05:00 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Achilles Heel

ping


148 posted on 09/23/2009 8:42:37 AM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: Watchdog85

As I recall, the Fife recounting said
the wife’s name was T.M ... the husband’s
- V.M.


149 posted on 09/23/2009 12:22:19 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: RummyChick

Google the Frankfort School.


150 posted on 10/14/2009 8:03:46 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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