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Congress May Bring Back The Draft
The Partisan ^ | Nick

Posted on 08/01/2010 7:48:14 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271

On July 15, 2010, Democrat Charles Rangle introduced a piece of legislation into Congress that would basically reinstate the draft (compulsory military service). H.R. 5741 will give the President of the United States the power to require all American citizens between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform either military service or civilian service in the interests of "national defense and homeland security." It would also give him the power to require citizens to join the military during wartime to meet the manpower needs of the military.

In February 2009, President Barack Obama asked Congress to send him a bipartisan bill in favor of "national service." Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel outline a plan similar to H.R. 5741 in his book The Plan.

Under this new legislation, nearly every American will be forced into two years of military or security service. Even conscientious objectors will be unable to avoid this new draft. Instead, they would have to choose noncombatant or civilian service, which will be defined by the President.

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This is a commie blog so I don't exactly trust it. However it is something of note Rangel might bring back the draft.
1 posted on 08/01/2010 7:48:16 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271

If Obama does, the hippies will scream for his impeachment.


2 posted on 08/01/2010 7:49:35 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Then draft away!


3 posted on 08/01/2010 7:50:31 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: citizenredstater9271
However it is something of note Rangel might bring back the draft.

No, Rangel will introduce a bill which if passed would bring back the draft. He's done this a number of times in past sessions, and the bill goes nowhere. This one will do the same.

4 posted on 08/01/2010 7:53:47 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Niuhuru

LOL the same hippies and limousine liberals who put him in office.


5 posted on 08/01/2010 7:54:01 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271

lol

man this just keeps getting better and better, I have never seen a polical party so focused on losing power.


6 posted on 08/01/2010 7:54:19 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Not going to happen. ...unless the Dems want to lose every election between between now and doomsday.


7 posted on 08/01/2010 7:55:33 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: TexasFreeper2009

draft who
like to see all the hip hops under obama


8 posted on 08/01/2010 7:56:03 PM PDT by truthbetold11 (truthbetold11)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Idiots didn’t realize that THEY and theirs would end up getting sent to the front.


9 posted on 08/01/2010 7:56:31 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Even the Democrats aren’t that stupid. If they do institute a draft, it’ll be for Mr. Obama’s Civilian National Security Force.


10 posted on 08/01/2010 7:56:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. ~Master Yoda)
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To: citizenredstater9271

A precursor to the start of Obambie’s civilian storm troopers,
kind of like The Red Guard?


11 posted on 08/01/2010 7:57:00 PM PDT by AlexW
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Rangel has been trying to bring back the draft for a long time. Here’s his try in 2003.
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Rep. Charles Rangel introduced a bill in Congress Tuesday to reinstate the military draft, saying fighting forces should more closely reflect the economic makeup of the nation.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/rangel.draft/


12 posted on 08/01/2010 7:57:35 PM PDT by Gertie
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To: citizenredstater9271

If I ever Lock & Load again, it will NOT be under the command of that Commie Tripe.

Some of us are quiet peaceful citizens who are armed and know how to use them. From my cold dead hands, FUBO.


13 posted on 08/01/2010 7:57:45 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Niuhuru

They would never make it to the front ... bullet in the back for immediate discharge


14 posted on 08/01/2010 7:57:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I am still wondering what they would actually do with 8 million people (4 million births per year x 2 years required “service”).

I’ll bet the moron hasn’t thought that through yet.


15 posted on 08/01/2010 7:59:32 PM PDT by gthog61
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To: citizenredstater9271

RANGEL has been talking about a DRAFT for YEARS... “Them RICH WHITE BOYS going FIRST”


16 posted on 08/01/2010 7:59:33 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I'm so Right Wing, my symbol is not the Elephant ...it is the ... WOOLLY MAMMOTH!!)
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To: Texas Fossil

If I ever Lock & Load again, it will NOT be under the command of that Commie Tripe.


Same here.

FUBO!!


17 posted on 08/01/2010 8:00:04 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Abin Sur
He's done this a number of times in past sessions, and the bill goes nowhere. This one will do the same.

Agreed. Rangel has been pulling this same stunt almost since 2003 or so. What was really shameful was that during Bush's presidency, Rangel kept insisting with a straight face that only the poor & minorities were dying on the front lines in Iraq because the U.S. economy was so bad they had no choice but to join the military.

I seriously think that the Democratic symbol should now be a 99-cent Store Economy Tool Set. What a bunch of Useless Tools...

18 posted on 08/01/2010 8:01:27 PM PDT by kromike
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To: citizenredstater9271
While Congress could reinstate the draft as it is empowered to maintain the military, compulsory civilian service is slavery, and is unconstitutional.

Of course, none of this matters, as "the first black president wants to reinstate slavery." (This is not my quote, I just heard it somewhere and am repeating it).

I would also imagine that our military isn't interested in reinstating the draft, as the only people they would get would be the same ones they got during the last draft, that is, all the people who were not rich enough, well-connected enough, or daft enough to escape the draft. Sad to say, these are not the kinds of people that we want to be motivating to do something they don't want to do.

19 posted on 08/01/2010 8:01:50 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Considering all the bums... and all the poverty pimps that collect bums for power... not a terrible idea.


20 posted on 08/01/2010 8:02:27 PM PDT by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Rangel brings this up about every 2 years.

and then he votes against it.


21 posted on 08/01/2010 8:03:07 PM PDT by digger48
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To: gthog61

It isn’t supposed to be a sensible law, just meant to create as much division among the American people as they can raise. Democrats are criminal scum. They manipulate to remain in power.


22 posted on 08/01/2010 8:03:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: citizenredstater9271

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-5741

H.R. 5741: Universal National Service Act

Sponsor: Rep. Charles Rangel [D-NY15] (no cosponsors)

Text on Thomas Register: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h5741:


23 posted on 08/01/2010 8:05:11 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Gertie

Congress lost me a long time ago.


24 posted on 08/01/2010 8:05:22 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even the Democrats aren’t that stupid. If they do institute a draft, it’ll be for Mr. Obama’s Civilian National Security Force.


Yes, two years of additional socialist training and development of community organizing skills. Brown shirts will be supplied...or are they purple?


25 posted on 08/01/2010 8:06:25 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: citizenredstater9271
...two years of military or security service. ... they would have to choose noncombatant or civilian service, which will be defined by the President.

Civilian security service, as defined by the President. Gee, would they get to wear brown shirts and knee-high leather boots too? NFW hussein, NFW.

26 posted on 08/01/2010 8:06:56 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: citizenredstater9271

I support Obama 100%. It would obviously jack up his ratings in short course, this whole country is just anxious to be armed and looking for a battle.

I am 53 but if I get some of that Just for men hair color I can pass for 42.

I want to be a tanker.


27 posted on 08/01/2010 8:06:56 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: citizenredstater9271
111th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 5741

To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 15, 2010

Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services


A BILL

To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

TITLE I--NATIONAL SERVICE

TITLE II--AMENDMENTS TO MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT

TITLE I--NATIONAL SERVICE

SEC. 101. DEFINITIONS.

SEC. 102. NATIONAL SERVICE OBLIGATION.

SEC. 103. INDUCTION TO PERFORM NATIONAL SERVICE.

SEC. 104. TWO-YEAR PERIOD OF NATIONAL SERVICE.

SEC. 105. IMPLEMENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT.

SEC. 106. EXAMINATION AND CLASSIFICATION OF PERSONS.

SEC. 107. DEFERMENTS AND POSTPONEMENTS.

SEC. 108. INDUCTION EXEMPTIONS.

SEC. 109. CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION.

SEC. 110. DISCHARGE FOLLOWING NATIONAL SERVICE.

TITLE II--AMENDMENTS TO MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT

SEC. 201. REGISTRATION OF FEMALES.

SEC. 202. REGISTRATION AND INDUCTION AUTHORITY.


28 posted on 08/01/2010 8:07:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Go for it, I threw out my draft card 47 years ago!


29 posted on 08/01/2010 8:09:30 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Gertie

Rangle has no clue. While it serves some lofty libtard goal of conscripting the children of the wealthy and not so well off equally, he wants to eliminate the idea that conscripts do not perform as well as volunteers.


30 posted on 08/01/2010 8:10:38 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Niuhuru

Its great that conservatives and progressive hippie pinkos are getting united against the president.


31 posted on 08/01/2010 8:11:54 PM PDT by Munson
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To: citizenredstater9271

No they won’t. This election is going to kick their butts hard enough already. Rangle keeps introducing this bill to prove some point that nobody cares about, but it’ll never pass. Not unless they actually find a majority in Congress that want to retire.


32 posted on 08/01/2010 8:13:34 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Charlie the Crook has been trying to do this for years. I don’t see it going anywhere this time either. Especially when the boy already has a ton of ethics problems he is going to have to deal with.


33 posted on 08/01/2010 8:14:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Ich bin ein illegal alien! - Barry Obama standing up with Central and South America against Arizona.)
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To: citizenredstater9271

congress better bring back sanity.with reid claiming to have saved ford motors , jackson lee praising south vietnam and pelosi claiming 500 billion jobs would have been lost if not for the bail out...we got a big problem with BOZO’s in DC


34 posted on 08/01/2010 8:14:37 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: citizenredstater9271
(3) The term `national service' means military service or service in a civilian capacity that, as determined by the President, promotes the national defense, including national or community service and service related to homeland security.

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SEC. 105. IMPLEMENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT.

(a) In General- The President shall prescribe such regulations as are necessary to carry out this title.

35 posted on 08/01/2010 8:16:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: dalereed

It is supposed to be mandatory for ppl between 18-42. Gov. taking over your life. Welcome to socailism. Too bad the kid who posted this doesnt get that.


36 posted on 08/01/2010 8:17:09 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: Texas Fossil

More BHO fascism for you.


37 posted on 08/01/2010 8:18:25 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271

This bill is not a request born out of need, or even want, on the side of the military. It’s born out of jealousy and malice so Rangel can force “the rich kids” into the military.


38 posted on 08/01/2010 8:18:36 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (The problem isn't that 1% of muslims are terrorists. The problem is 99% of terrorists are muslim)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Commie blog or not, this wouldn’t surprise me one bit. Dear leader’s going to need his own goon squads soon if he keeps up his antics.


39 posted on 08/01/2010 8:19:25 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Eye of Unk
I want to be a tanker.

Hell my previous 10 yrs with Uncle Sugar taught me that Supply Sergeant is the slot to get.
Recreation Facility Management is also a good one for those of us getting a bit 'long in the tooth'...;)

As always...RLTW!

40 posted on 08/01/2010 8:19:40 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Yep.


41 posted on 08/01/2010 8:19:51 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Gertie
Rep. Charles Rangel introduced a bill in Congress Tuesday to reinstate the military draft, saying fighting forces should more closely reflect the economic makeup of the nation.

Yeah that's one version of the verbiage he has used in the past. Another is along the lines that if rich white men have to send their kids off to war along with the people of color who can't get into college they'll be less likely to start wars or some such drivel....

42 posted on 08/01/2010 8:19:54 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: citizenredstater9271
The 18 - 24 age group is already losing that magical feeling, if this goes through it will be a full fledged Indian Uprising
43 posted on 08/01/2010 8:22:38 PM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
it’ll be for Mr. Obama’s Civilian National Security Force.

Exactly right.. and I'm sure they have designs of putting our men and women under Interpol command as they try to enforce Fascist multiculturalism and flat earth environmentalism. The truth is the real leftist yearns for and would love to join a brown shirt squad.

44 posted on 08/01/2010 8:23:45 PM PDT by Track9 (Liberals are cruel hateful people who think they pass as respectable citizens.)
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To: Abin Sur
No, Rangel will introduce a bill which if passed would bring back the draft. He's done this a number of times in past sessions, and the bill goes nowhere. This one will do the same.

Exactly. The military doesn't even have the machinations in place to deal with an army of conscripts. The entire process of how the military trains, motivates and leads soldiers would have to be retooled from the top down to deal effectively with legions of draftees that don't want to be there.

And would the military even want conscripts? Short answer, they don't. Even with an all-volunteer service, the military is today turning away prospective recruits. The ranks are full.

45 posted on 08/01/2010 8:29:14 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Tainan

LOL

I once dated a girl that served the airforce. Her entire responsibility...YOU WILL NEVER GUESS.

She designed programs and invitations to retiring officer parties. Oh, and also weddings.


46 posted on 08/01/2010 8:31:16 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Personal Responsibility
This bill is not a request born out of need, or even want, on the side of the military. It’s born out of jealousy and malice so Rangel can force “the rich kids” into the military.

And Rangel is going to find himself an "Army of One" trying to get this through congress.

It's never going to happen.

47 posted on 08/01/2010 8:31:25 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: MHGinTN

That’s a good take on it. A lot of common sense.


48 posted on 08/01/2010 8:31:28 PM PDT by Track9 (Liberals are cruel hateful people who think they pass as respectable citizens.)
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To: citizenredstater9271
Rangel introduces this legislation every session. It never gets out of committee.

Welcome to Free Republic.

/johnny

49 posted on 08/01/2010 8:33:01 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: citizenredstater9271

The only way this is going to work out is if it is a scam to get more people on the dole. As in acorn type community organizing disguised as a civilian military. Just another way to funnel more money to the underground marxist organizations.


50 posted on 08/01/2010 8:33:43 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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