Posted on 08/01/2010 8:57:49 PM PDT by geraldmcg
Finally when it appeared that the truth was going to come out once and for all about Obama's mysterious birth, the State Department wiggles out of producing records of Obama's mama's by saying that some circa '60's documents were destroyed, and that the records of Obama's mama, Stanley Ann Dunham, were missing.
This let down was the apparent end of a trail from a Freedom of Information Act request for those documents.
But the some documents provided from teh Freedom of Information Request, included two different locations and dates for STanley Ann Dunham's marriage to Lolo Soetoro, Barack Barry Hussein Obama's step-father from Indonesia.
Pinging you to post #534 at
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2562507/posts?q=1&;page=533#533
Interesting additional tidbit concerning typewriters, SAD and fonts.
Potentially, the only hard evidence that hasn’t been eradicated is The One himself. (”Grandma” - cremation, etc.)
A hair, a flake of skin or even a booger would be a lot more useful than anything you’d get under FOIA regarding this guy.
You could have fooled me because back a year or more ago there were supposedly OFFICIAL Birth Certificates from Hawaii posted on FreeRepublic to show the difference between Barack Obama's Certification of Birth that was posted online and a real Certificate of Birth. There were none posted that had height, weight, etc on them.
You did not have to buy the Hospital Birth Certificate. It was given to you. I don't know about Hawaii hospitals, but I do know what they did in Washington and California and they gave out Certificates. They were not official though but like I said I was nieve and thought they were. I think a lot of people did and that is why they quit issuing them.
So how did he get a US passport if he didn’t have a US birth certificate?
We don’t know whether Obama’s ultimate purpose is a Muslim dominated US, or whether it’s a Soviet style state, or whether he’s just a tool of the banksters whose aim is to tear down all borders and create a global oligarchy. What we do know is that he has no love for this country or its ideals. The idiots elected him because he promised to reform America. What they didn’t know was that by “reform” he meant “tear it down and re-form it according to his—or someone else’s—vision.”
Mine does as well.
There were copies of twins BC's born around the same time as Barry claims he was born. They contained the info.
I also saw another posted by a FReeper, and it contained the info.
I even posted on one these threads where and what the block number was that contained the info on my and my son's BC’s from Hawaii.
This info has been posted and known on FR for over two years.
This detailed birth info was on REAL BC’s from Hawaii back in the 60’s and because of my son's birth I know was still included in the late 80’s.
I don't know what you have been looking at, but anyone who frequents these threads will tell you I am correct..
Look around on these old threads if you have the time. You will defiantly find it. By the way.....there is a so-called long form and a so-called short form. There is a difference.
Spumky, I am sorry.
What I posted is not correct. I flew off the handle and decided to post info which is not true.
My height and weight at birth on my Certificate of Live Birth is not included.
I should have looked it up before spouting off.
The hospital, doctor, time and date and other info not included on the short form is on it. Birth mother and birth father are also included.
But not weight and height.
I’m sorry for the above wrong info and I’m sorry for going off on you for my mistake.
Sorry everyone.
#86 above posted by me is wrong.
I posted before double checking.
Height and weight is not included on my Certificate of Live Birth from ‘68.
Of course I do not think this has anything to do with Barry and his treasonous ways, but my incorrect info needed to be corrected.
Non-starter. If one has it, one cannot be "adopted out" of US citizenship.
The issues we need to be pushing is the definition of natural born citizen, and his parents, one an American the other a British Subject. Nobody disputes that fact.
No one disputes it, least of all Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., who admitted in Bill Ayer's best-seller "Dreams of My Father," that he was born a dual citizen. However, Team Obama has had great success in conflating "Native Born," with "Natural Born." Frankly, it's one of the greatest PR Coups of all time. Of course, it's based on birth in Hawaii, which although possible, remains unproven.
Not calling "foul," in the 2008 election is the greatest failure in the Republican Party's 175-year history. However, it is not too late for one state legislature or Governor to refuse The Mombasa Moonbeam a place on that state's ballot in 2012. The concept of "Natural Born" citizenship is already plenty well-enough defined for that. That strategy has the benefit of a quicker SCOTUS review.
Actually height and weight at birth can be a predictor, unless the child was not full term. That is why the doctors generally use the height at age 2. They’ve done studies on it. It certainly has been accurate for my 4 kids, with the longest babies being the tallest adults.
If it were an 8 month pregnancy, it would be unreliable. Since the circumstances of her pregancy are unknown, we do not know the length of it.
Thank you for those links. My head is spinning. As a nation, how could we let this happen?
Re: unofficial, commemorative Hospital Certificates with foot prints. I have one for my first daughter from IL in 1960, but my other 3 children, who were born in CA in 1961, 63, & 65, have none. The CA hospital told me they weren’t doing them any more. My mother has one for me born in ... (I won’t tell you) born in CA.
Well, there are (is?) a slew of half-siblings running around. Frank Marshall has a son, and there are about 6 descendents of Barack Sr. spread around the world. Somebody should start collecting DNA evidence.
First get someone at the WH to collect and bag his cigarette butts. Then do the same for Frank Marshall's son and as many of the BO Sr. offspring as can be located. In the case of Frank Marshall (if that should be the one) BO will be proven a NBC -- but he will be the son of a known Communist. In the case of BO Sr. it will prove that Jr. is a dual citizen and not eligible.
Is Stanley an buried, or cremated? We might need a sample from her, although I really think she and BO look alike.
My sister has one of those commemorative Certificates. She was born in ‘65 in TX.
I always thought my parents got a little chinsy when I was born because I never had one.
I will just go with the story of they didn’t offer them. I’ll let my parents off the hook. LOL!
Okubo tried saying that if somebody had the BC# they could hack the HDOH computers.
These people lie as easily as they breathe.
You must have gotten the medical portion as well as the standard part they copy. They’ve tried to tell the public they won’t make those copies any more, even though it’s in their HDOH Rules that a person can receive the whole thing - medical portion and all - if they request it specifically.
Did you receive that BC recently? (Don’t answer if you don’t want to)
Leni
Another one of those things that make you go hmmmm.
Yep, I told you this index book was important. I'd really like to know exactly when they destroyed it.
Hawaii had a law saying that the HDOH could decide the form of the birth certificates but they had to include AT LEAST all the information that was required on the federal government’s standard birth certificate. The agency which comes up with the recommended standard certificates has changed names over the years; now it’s under the Centers for Disease Control (CDC).
To find out what would have been REQUIRED for a BC in Hawaii to be considered legally complete in 1961, then, I went to the CDC’s 1961 Natality Report, which has a copy of the recommended standard birth certificate. At that point, BC’s were required to have those 3 medical items.
What makes me believe that it was the birth weight which was added to Obama’s BC to complete it is what I’ve gotten for responses from the HDOH on specific, targeted requests. I don’t want to reveal exactly what those requests were because if the HDOH or Obots knew exactly what I’ve got they could try to figure out a way to forge or change documents in a way that would explain those responses.
Sort of like how a teacher who knows the questions on a standardized test might teach only to get the kids to pass the test. If the teacher doesn’t know what’s on the test they can’t manipulate their teaching to get deceptive results.
That’s also why they do independent questioning of witnesses - so the witnesses can’t necessarily synchronize their accounts. If they don’t know what evidence they have to try to synchronize their accounts with, they can be cross-examined by the evidence they didn’t know we had.
It’s hard to know what the public should be aware of, and what to keep hidden for cross-examination purposes. Anything that I have kept hidden is because I feel that I must, because of the corruption I’ve observed and realize could happen again. I struggle with the tendency to reveal too much rather than too little.
So in this case what I can say is that I’ve got HDOH responses and other observed phenomena which support this hypothesis but I can’t reveal them yet.
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