Skip to comments.Senators’ Bid to Force Governor to Accept High-Speed Rail Money Fails
Posted on 03/05/2011 6:29:01 PM PST by John Semmens
The effort of State Senator Thad Altman (R) and Arthenia Joyner (D) to have the court compel Governor Rick Scott (R) to accept $2.4 billion in federal money for the construction of high-speed rail in the state was unanimously rejected when the Florida Supreme Court ruled that by both federal and state law, the Governor is authorized to make this decision.
Senator Altman called the decision devastating for the State of Florida. Perhaps the Governor is within his legal rights to reject this money, but the consequences will be felt by every person in the state. Even if the Governor is right about future operating losses, we shouldnt pass up the money that can be made just by building it.
The Governor rejection of the federal aid cited the states fiscal difficulties as his rationale. The $2.4 billion is only a minor part of the estimated $11 billion total construction cost, Scott recounted. On top of that there would be annual operating deficits of $100 million or more. This financial albatross around the states neck is not what we need during these difficult economic times.
Senator Joyner disagreed with the Governors take. Constructing this rail line would mean jobs for Floridians right now, when we most need them, Joyner alleged. The state couldve borrowed its share of the matching funds required. How to pay back this money along with covering the operating losses is a decision that couldve been deferred to a future and, hopefully, more prosperous time.
Sure you dumb idiot!
Its kinda like the phone company giving you a $400 rebate check to switch and only to find out in your next bill that they were charging you at least twice what you were paying before, but only now you are stuck in a LONG CONTRACT and have to pay a huge penalty to get outta it!!
Yeah a Train Tampa to Orlando Brilliant\s How about the 2.4 Billion to drill for Oil?
Good one John.
Wish we had Rick Scott in VA.
Senator Joyner disagreed with the Governors take. Constructing this rail line would mean jobs for Floridians right now, when we most need them, Joyner alleged.
That’s not why she’s fighting for O-B-A-M-A-R-A-I-L.
On a roll today, you are...
In the original Greek it is less obvious that this is satire.
I thought this was real too.
Are you an ex-CIA guy?
love the payment deferral to a “hopefully” more prosperous time!
BUT, while you KNOW I adore your satire, after reading the whole page, my favorite part was “House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif).” Man, do I like how that reads!
The most reasonable explanation I have been offered does not originate from its proponents, but from its opponents. And that explanation is basically that rail is a collective, centrally-planned-and-controlled alternative to individual locomotion.
And it can be claimed to run on time via the good graces of a central authority.
I find this both compelling and disturbing, given the historical precedent.
Come for the article, stay for the people who don’t realize that it’s satire.
From your Madigan satire
f people know which of their neighbors have guns they can help point them out to authorities if a weapons round-up is desired. There are many anti-government nuts who wouldnt hesitate to use their weapons against what they imagine to be government tyranny. An orderly disarming of these people will save many lives. This is another big plus.
John both of these are so close to the truth that ,,,,,, I would laugh except these bums actually think like this
Ha! Waited a while to ping the list, huh? lol
I don’t blame you. I love reading the replies to your threads. ;o)
This is a ‘nuther good ‘un.
So far I’m glad I voted for Scott.
Keep it up Govenor, you’re pissing off the libs and president odumbo so ya must be doing something right.
You had ‘em lined up and going strong until someone spilled the beans.
The trains are a control mechanism and union organizing tool. If you notice, most of the support is coming from seiu unions that have nothing to gain from the trains.
Where I live, it’s the freight trains that they are pushing,coal trains. The
Left figures that they can win the support of the coal regions if they sell the coal that they won’t let them burn in the US to China at below market price they can win the votes of the coal regions.
Was his name Willie Green by chance???
No, but maybe a lot of Docs wanted to be Engineers!
You did get the Willie Green reference? He was obsessed with trains and got the ZOT for picking a fight with JR.
“High Speed Rail”...like “HealthCare” ...Like “Global Warming”...all are merely excuses for formation of sinecures in perpetuity for the connected and ruling class.
No, I missed that one...after all it’s not 9 a.m. yet...LOL
“Left’s fascination with high-speed rail in particular, and trains in general, from its proponents.”
They’re probably Dagny Taggart wannabes, but being brain-dead, didn’t realize that the whole point of Atlas Shrugged was to celebrate the ability of the private sector to build such railroads in response to market needs.
Every communist government has high-speed rail. What the citizens don’t have are cars, good housing, good food, or decent work.
A visiting diplomat from Russia was traveling the streets of New York City with the mayor. He noticed men shoveling snow from the sides of the streets. "In Russia, we use plow trucks to clear the streets. It is much more efficient. Why do you have so many men shoveling?" The mayor replied, "Unemployment is pretty high now. We're trying to keep as many people working as possible." The Russian said, "Then why not give them spoons so everyone can have a job?"
I use to think that was just a joke. I didn't want to believe that people really think this way.
Ill put it this way so there is no misunderstanding. If you continue pushing leftist clap-trap on this website, you get the zot.
Its not wanted here. Drop it or leave. The choice is yours and Im not going to argue with you about it. Zip it or zot it.
Yep. That's why I got on his ping list. Heads explode EVERY SINGLE TIME HE POSTS!
The state couldve borrowed its share of the matching funds required. How to pay back this money along with covering the operating losses is a decision that couldve been deferred to a future and, hopefully, more prosperous time.
You nailed that one perfectly. After all, that is how Dems have been spending money all along...which is why our local, state and federal governments are broke.
Thanks for the ping, John.
I hardly understand your response. If anything is the case it is that I am not a leftist.
Quite impressive, Semmens.
My argument against a Tampa-Orlando HSR: I-4.
Un freaking real. The federal govt is broke. They think that when the good times return all the baby boomers that are retiring will some how be paying all the taxes they used to. I really wish some of these dunderheads will take some time to look at demographics and see the future. There isn’t any money!
No. Not at all. That was the response to Willie Green by Jim Rob before Willie got the ZOT. Click the link and you can see where JR warned WG, but WG instead posted his OPUS on his about page.
I’m just a little slow...did not know about the significance of “Willie Green”...LOL
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