Skip to comments.Not a Conspiracy? Natural Born Definition Scrubbed from Online Dictionaries.
Posted on 05/07/2011 7:01:47 AM PDT by opentalk
"So progressive that the Constitution is totally defunct .. and yes, Kenya did exist in 1963 as the 'Protectorate of Kenya' under British rule. In 1963, British rule ceased and Kenya dropped 'Protectorate'.
Ladies and gentlemen, there is a MASSIVE cover-up underway.
BOTH Natural born AND natural born citizen now return NO RESULTS in searches on ALL active online dictionaries, with the sole exception of Wikipedia, redirects to Wikipedia, and quotes from Wikipedia.
....The reason this is important is because right now, there is an ongoing debate over at Wikipedia due to the scrubbing of references to Emerich De Vattel's work Law of Nations, right after Obama released his long form.
....They have maintained here that since Vattel wrote in French, and his exact wording for Natural-Born is, "Les Naturales ou indigenes" which literally translated would mean "the naturals or natives", Vattel can not be used as a reference for the wording of the Constitutional requirement of Natural Born Citizenship. But, Vattel's definition (in English) is as follows:
(Excerpt) Read more at 18.104.22.168 ...
BTW, My Pappy’s family was from WV, and he would never admit it.
Though none of it made him less of a man.
How could something he had no hand in define him?
I am not sure that the left is driving it, but they sure are watering it.
IMHO Obama is loving this shit. He is a master at slight of hand.
He has had us hypnotized with the birther thing for over 2 years.
Watch THE OTHER HAND.
He is installing a caliphate in North Africa. He is robbing the middle class, He is subverting the letter of the law.
IF he had acknowledged obama's ineligibility first and then made the case that this was not the hill to die on, I might have listened and possibly agreed.
Instead, he lectured, ranted and raved and was incorrect about it. He should stick to talking about the things he knows about.
What many seem to not understand is that the Constitution and the founders' original intent ARE important today. This issue is very important to a number of us and it isn't going away until it is made right.
I think Steyn made a fair assessment of the law tracing it back to English law.
Regardless of that his wider point is that the BC has become a red herring.
Actually its a constitutional requirement that has yet no anyone’s satisfaction been fully explained.
You either abide by the Constitution or you don’t, and if its the latter, then the citizenry is justified in doing whatever is necessary to restore our republic.
Whatever is necessary.
Do you seriously think that at this point we are going to get a Judge to say AHA! Obama Is not eligible to hold office!
We had a federal Judge rule that Obamacare was unconstitutional and what happened?
Obama said FU I dont give a **** about the law, I will proceed, Me and all my cronys make the rules
And he laughs while we ignore that BLATANT miscarriage of law and chase the BC
He punks a 30 year allie in egypt, starts a war in libya without even discussing the matter with congress and laughs while we chase the BC
This guy is a snake, he is a charlatan. I cant see him gone fast enough, but this birther thing has no wheels.
In fact, I believe someone like obama, whose loyalties often appear to lie elsewhere than with the US, is exactly the danger they were trying to avoid.
They gave the President a lot of power, including that of Commander in Chief, and did their best to check and balance that power, starting with his or her innate national loyalty.
IF we had 'listened' to them and their wisdom, we would have avoided the obama disaster altogether and obama would still be the most liberal and unproductive senator instead of our worst President.
Too late now.
About a year ago Obama/Holder rolled up 104? mob operators in NYC. It was barely noticed and the people that did notice thought “Gee Obama is swell, he is tough on crime”
He was clearing the field for the Chicago mob
And we were chasing the BC.
“Too late now.”
No. Document the crimes he is committing every day.
This guy is atrocious, he is bold, he is a meglomaniac
“They gave the President a lot of power, including that of Commander in Chief, and did their best to check and balance that power,”
The President has limited power we have checks and balances for a reason.
Obama has usurped all of that, he has installed chicago goombas at every level of the Gov, but nobody cares.
We are chasing the BC
However, the fact that obama isn't even eligible is not a distraction for many of us. It gives us even greater motivation.
That is the point most, including Steyn, can't get their opinions around. It is an oath-thing, you know?
I have NEVER in mylife seen a guy tear through the system like this asshole.
GWB spent 19 months building a case before congress, the UN and the world to go to war in Iraq.
And they call him a criminal.
Obama PURPOSELY circumvented congress and went to war with Libya and we are chasing the BC.
Now he is a Farking hero! He got Osama’s head.
Meanwhile The Caliphate is being installed in Egypt, Obama and Zawahiri are chuckling
All he needs to do now is get rid of that pesky loose cannon Gaddffhi.
And we are chasing the BC
I am an Oather.
Don’t misunderstand me.
Apparetnly, however, we do agree on most everything else regarding obama, including the need to beat his skinny liberal butt next election.
He must be defeated.
To me, it is not a “birther thing”. Rather, it is a “adhering to the provisions of the constitution thing”.
Do we care what our constitution requires? If so, then we need to be concerned with what the phrase “natural born citizen” means. Either that, or we need to acknowledge that the 14th amendment makes the original language in Article 2 moot.
Does it mean “born in country to two US citizen parents”? Or does it mean “born in country to one US citizen parent”? Or, did the 14th amendment make it a “moot” issue and that one’s parentage is irrelevant?
Which is it and does it matter to us, the people?
Of course, we could simply ignore it completely and let some future generation deal with it...which seems to be the course we are on at the moment.
An Oather swears on the constitution.
I do care what the constitution says, but this knucklehead has us chasing legal daffynitions while he is raping the shit out of the body of the constitution.
I’ve had my say on this matter.
Let’s go document his crimes
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