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Posted on 11/28/2011 2:08:59 PM PST by Bokababe
The US government has been slowly eradicating the Posse Commitatus Act of 1878. That act banned the US government from using the US military in domestic law enforcement. Over the past few decades the US government has repeatedly violated the act. However, many Republicans have insisted that the Posse Comitatus Act needs to be respected to protect the rights of American Citizens.
South Carolina's left-wing Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, however, is supporting provisions to eradicate Posse Commitatus and dramatically expand the powers of the Federal government.
The US Senate Armed Forces Committee, led by Carl Levin (D-MI) and John McCain (R-AZ), held a secret closed door session to insert ominous new Federal powers into the Defense Authorization Bill. This is the annual bill to fund the US military. These new powers were requested by the Obama administration.
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
Yeah, but it only applies to “custody”, not be arrested by them. They’ll just claim, they’re not in custody, but en-route to the local jail authorities.
(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS
AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The require
ment to detain a person in military custody under
this section does not extend to citizens of the United
States.
Here is the GPO link to S. 1867
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867pcs/pdf/BILLS-112s1867pcs.pdf
In Section 1031 is where the concern lies.
Note that the most current version available through Thomas.loc.gov, that section is gone.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:s.01867:
I seriously doubt that any of them were in on writing it.
Secret Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow MilitaryTo Sweep Up US Citizens At Home Or Abroad
from the congressional record debate (p.45), exact language that clearly stated- U.S. citizens are exempt from being policed by the U.S. Military- may have been left out at Obama's request.
Slowly eradicating? Some do not remember the Bonus Army or the debacle at Waco.
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Anwar al Awlaki was a U.S. citizen.
He was also an anti-US combatant.
He was one of the first Americans executed by this President without trial.
We expect a President who has a history of “over-reach” in almost everything he touches, not to “over-reach” on this issue ? Co-signed by McCain at Obummers request ?
He won’t even send National Guard to protect the Southern border to stop an invasion of drugs, alien immigrants, or weapons . Instead , he puts up 15 highway signs to warn U.S. citizens to seek an alternative route, due to danger from drug cartels , and illegal immigration routes, and while he and the Department of “Just-us” promotes and arms the drug cartels . WHAT ARE YOU ... NUTS ???
I dont trust either major party with this authority to arrest and detain without trial, much less use the military as “enforcers “.
I dont trust either major party with this authority to abbrogate the Consitution , or re-write it , or modify it.
TRUST is something that you earn , and so far , I haven’t seen anything out of this administration that is worthy of TRUST .
They will pass another bill deleting that paragraph later.
This crap has got to stop now.
WOW! Reading pages where Graham, McCain and Levin are speaking is very eye opening. Pages 39-49.
Absolutely crazy. They are using the Christmas Day bomber as an example of why they want to detain anyone for as long as they like without access to a lawyer or judicial process.
Massive growth of Federal powers. Clear violation of the constitution. The USA, liberty and life as we truly know it is being quickly eroded through the reaction to terrorism.
Hell, the Delta Force took out the Christian David Koresh and his followers in Waco TX. This government doesn't need laws to break, they do what ever they damn well please and that includes murdering US civilians. Posse Commitatus my aching a$$. The military needs to be turned loose in DC to clean out the rot and corruption.
.....This bill is a very sound, balanced work product, and I will stand by it, I will fight for it, and I respect those who may disagree. But why did we take out the language Senator Levin wanted me to put in about an American citizen could not be held indefinitely if caught in the homeland? The administration asked us to do that. Why did they ask us to do that? It makes perfect sense.
If American citizens have joined the enemy and we captured them at home, we want to make sure we know what they are up to, and we do not want to be required, under our law, to turn them over to a criminal court, where you have to provide them a lawyer at an arbitrary point in time. So the administration was probably right to take this out.(page 45)
This shows that they know the citizen language is too gray, otherwise why add it then remove it or even talk about it. Plus any McCain bill should be scrutinized, especially after his McCain-Feingold act was declared partially unconstitutional.
Forget Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc.. the US government has been slowly eradicating the Bill of Rights. The eradication has accelerated since about 1967.
Methinks this "eradicating," might not end well.
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The language used applying to U.S. citizens and legal resident aliens is only referring to SEC. 1032. REQUIREMENT FOR MILITARY CUSTODY.
Nothing is stated exempting U.S. citizens from detainment in SEC. 1031. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE
In addition the language used for U.S. citizens and legal resident aliens under SEC. 1032 says: “...THE REQUIREMENT TO DETAIN...” Meaning they may if they choose to, just not required.
Where is the clear language that U.S. citizens are exempt from being policed by the U.S. Military?
Ughhh Sadly Sen. Graham is one of mine until 2014! I will contact Sen. DeMint!! I can’t wait to get rid of little miss lindsey in 2014
There is nothing in the Constitution that says enemy combatants in this country cannot be killed by American troops.
That would not have been put there by a group of Founders who had fought on our own soil against British, Indians, and saboteurs.
The point of posse comitatus was to not use the military for normal law enforcement.
As well well know from Kent State, the National Guard can be used as governors of the states determine.
That is why we have police and the FBI. There is no reason for the military to be involved. I dont forsee any reason that a Tomahawk cruise missile will be needed to go through a front door in America.
FUJM!!! FUBO!!! FULG!!!
No, you should read the page a poster mentioned and then back read from there. The bill EXCLUDES American citizens and those here legally.
Slippery Slope bump for later....
I hope to hell it pertains to illegal aliens who are within the US.
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