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Why Conservatives Should Continue to Oppose Romney after the Nomination (Please provide input)
Bloggers & Personal ^ | 10 Apr 12 | Xzins

Posted on 04/10/2012 9:55:58 AM PDT by xzins

The basic reason Romney should be opposed by conservatives is that Romney is not a conservative. More specifically, Romney is the author of the $50 abortion, the originator of the gay marriage license, and the founder of big government-forced health care.

Those 3 are a mix of social and fiscal issues. The conclusion is that Romney is neither a fiscal conservative nor a social conservative. His tenure as governor of Massachusetts proves that point.

Now, as Romney is touted as the “etch-a-sketch” candidate who will shortly begin his tack to the left, principled conservatives will do well to begin listing their reasons for not ever supporting Mitt Romney for anything other than Citizen Mitt.

1. Abortion: Romney is the author of the $50 abortion.

2. Gay Marriage: Romney signed legislation requiring the issuing of gay marriage licenses. Romney has tried to “moderate” his position by becoming pro-gay union....big deal. He once told gay operatives that he was the gay lobby's best hope for getting their agenda into the republican party. (Look at that, too, in terms of abortion and judicial selections.)

3. RomneyCare: Sadly, Mitt thinks it's just fine to have state governments force you to buy health insurance. I suppose he finds the power to do that in the US Constitution. Oh...I remember...the place where the Constitution says “states can force the people to buy things they don't want to buy and enter into contracts they don't want to enter into.”

4. Give notice to the GOP-Establishment: It probably is very wise to shove down their throat what they are trying to shove down ours. They are not the masters of the conservative universe. Allowing them to think they are will simply encourage more of the same in the future. I'm sure the romney-bots and the romney-enablers will want their say about Romney opponents handing the election to Obama, but the manipulation by the GOP-E is what will lead to that.

5. Romney's “Scorched Earth” Campaign: Romney has divided conservatives and seriously weakened voter turnout. His strategy, liberal that he is, was to run ads via his SuperPac pigeonholing the conservative purity of his opponents. That kind of outrageous hypocrisy deserves punishment and not reward.

6. Conservative Resignation to supporting Romney appears to be surrender of conservative principle. The results of that could be far-reaching. It could mean that the republican movement is totally abandoned to the liberal establishment.

7. Judicial Appointments: "Liberty Counsel Action Vice President Matt Barber said Romney’s appointments were constitutional “living document” poster children.

“Many of Romney’s appointments were not only liberal, not only Democrats, but were radical counter-constitutionalists. How on earth can we expect that, as president, he would be any different?” Barber asked rhetorically."

8. Other reasons "Conservatives Should Continue to Oppose Romney after the Nomination" are welcome. Please post them below.


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: elections; ibtz; obamasstalkinghorse; romney; romneytruthfile
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To: xzins

These conservatives permitted Kagan and Sotomeyor on the Supreme court.
They have thus far tolerated illegal recess appointments.

I hope we sweep down ticket. Of course i do or i would not be here nor would i be arguing so passionately (all the while at work).
Fact is as i have said in 100 posts not on this thread this was an awful crop of candidates. I was not going to be happy with any of them. At no time however did the thought of not voting to win,to beat Obama cross my mind. It has not now nor shall it.


121 posted on 04/10/2012 11:40:24 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Magic Fingers
LOL - yeah, there’s been SO much unanimity here on FR.

Which is not an argument for supporting Romney...

122 posted on 04/10/2012 11:40:33 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

People, I am a true conservative, probably more extreme than most people, but no matter how bad Romney is, we all need to somehow vote for him if he is the nominee. There is NO WAY I can stand Obutthole any longer. He needs to go no matter what! There is NO WAY I am going to take another 4 yrs of that A__Hole! I will be moving from the US if he does!!!


123 posted on 04/10/2012 11:41:17 AM PDT by forbushalltheway
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To: xzins
It looks like the 2012 elections will repeat all but two of my Presidential votes dating back to 1972.

In eight of them I voted against a candidate. In 1980 and 1984 I voted for Regan.

Lets not lose sight of the alternative - Obama and everything he still wants to do.

Given my choice of two poor candidates I will vote against the greater threat to the Republic.

Enough said!

124 posted on 04/10/2012 11:41:30 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: wiggen
So many conservatives ready to sit back and watch Obama get re elected because they didn’t get the candidate they wanted.

I had no favored horse in this race. From the start, the entire field has been lackluster, despite some possessing genuine conservative positions.

Because I'm in California, my chance to cast a vote for a conservative candidate...any conservative candidate...dwindles to nothing by the time the primary comes around. It happened in 2008. It is much worse in 2012. Now, I'm expected to go along with a proven liberal as the alternative to Obama.

I'm going to the polls, but I will not cast my vote for another liberal.

125 posted on 04/10/2012 11:42:53 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: wiggen
I am a conservative, wiggen.

Look me in the eye and say, "Romney is a true-blue conservative, xzins."

Then I'll believe your heart is in this.

126 posted on 04/10/2012 11:43:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Magic Fingers

I’m 57 and within days of the say birth date as Sotomayor. The fact is long after i’m retired she will be demonstrating her ignorance on the Supreme court. I might be 80 and on my deathbed and she may still be there being wrong as often as she can. These appointments,there are no do overs. we’re stuck not just for their lives but ours.


127 posted on 04/10/2012 11:43:28 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Magic Fingers
I hope you both lose.

Given the present choices, I believe we all will in the long run.

128 posted on 04/10/2012 11:48:35 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: xzins
Because if the principled conservatives don't torpedo the GOP and "send a message", Obama might not get a second term!

Oh, yeah, and don't forget to not vote for any Republican for either of the houses of Congress! We don't want to be racist and not give Obama all the help he needs!

God, this place is like a kindergarten!

129 posted on 04/10/2012 11:50:09 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: xzins

“Which is not an argument for supporting Romney...”

No, it’s an argument against your statement that “This is why united conservatives could forge a party that would spell the end of the GOP” (i.e., your de facto argument in support of Obama’s re-election). By 2016? Maybe. In the next 6 months? Not even remotely realistic.


130 posted on 04/10/2012 11:51:37 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: xzins
Let's see you conservatives who think you're so conservative top this:

If Romney wins the nomination, I'll be so mad that I won't just stay home or vote for some nobody, I'll vote for Obama!

Take that you Rinos!! (sarc)

131 posted on 04/10/2012 11:52:17 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: xzins

I don’t need to say Romney is a conservative. I’ve never once believed he was. I never once have said he is.
Our difference is you’re willing to accept 4 more years and i most assuredly am not.
what you suggest,that i look you in the eye and say Romney is conservative,where did that come from? I need to argue he’s a conservative to justify my voting for him?


132 posted on 04/10/2012 11:52:33 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Jagdgewehr
I'm going to the polls, but I will not cast my vote for another liberal.

I'm with you, Jagdgewehr.

133 posted on 04/10/2012 11:53:09 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: wiggen

Nope. For me to know your heart is in it. It is a disheartened appeal to vote for Romney. I know demoralized and dispirited when I see it.


134 posted on 04/10/2012 11:55:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Redleg Duke
God, this place is like a kindergarten!

Amen that! The "Screw voting - I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue" posters are absolutely moronic.

135 posted on 04/10/2012 11:57:14 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: xzins

again. At what point was i happy voting FOR Romney. Never said i was voting for him but always against Obama. I think that would be pretty clear by now.
Santorum suspends his campaign. On the tape.


136 posted on 04/10/2012 12:00:58 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: xzins

Three words, sir.

He’s. A. Liberal.

That’s enough for me to find someone else.


137 posted on 04/10/2012 12:02:59 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (There will be no vote for Myth Romney in my house. Period.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Amen, Colonel.


138 posted on 04/10/2012 12:04:28 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: SoConPubbie

We are not alone:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2868451/posts?page=143#143
To: WOSG

McCain was at least pro-life and a war hero. But I didn’t vote for him, I voted for Sarah. I will not pull the lever for the abortionist/socialist big government RINO Romney. And I don’t care who he selects as a running mate. Never again.

FUMTR!! FUGOP!!

143 posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:46:15 PM by Jim Robinson

Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)

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139 posted on 04/10/2012 12:08:57 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: Magic Fingers

You would have to think your way through it, but there is a means for a solid conservative to make a legitimate run for the presidency this cycle.

At this point, I will probably hope for a miracle for Newt, but my fallback position is the Constitution Party. They are already on the ballot here in Ohio, and they’ve served notice in the state attorney race that they can get hundreds of thousands of votes.


140 posted on 04/10/2012 12:11:43 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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