Posted on 09/29/2012 11:23:40 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
A vigorous discussion is taking place online about the word illegal as an adjective for certain immigrants. An immigrant activist named Jose Antonio Vargas, a former reporter, is urging news organizations like The New York Times to stop using it. He says the word is inaccurate, improper and demeaning.
The Timess public editor, Margaret Sullivan (an independent voice who writes about The Times but is not part of its news or opinion operations), has been looking into this, interviewing editors and reporters and soliciting readers opinions. She says she will weigh in soon.
I figured I should, too, because I have thought about illegal a lot (I write immigration editorials). Five years ago I wrote an Editorial Observer called What Part of Illegal Dont You Understand? explaining why I didnt like the word, but used it anyway. Not surprisingly, the article didnt settle the debate. Its still going around, in circles.
Those who agree with Mr. Vargas say illegal should be banned because it suggests that illegal immigrants are criminals, which often isnt true. No human being is illegal, they say.
(Excerpt) Read more at takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com ...
They are illegal entrants, and they are visitors ~ not immigrants at all since you need an immigration visa to be an immigrant.
I prefer to call them "illegal tourists who are broke" ~ else they'd go home like the other visitors do when their time is up.
Time to take back the language. Don't let Mexicans and Russians define 'immigrant'
Simple. They are criminals. They are breaking the law by illegally entering this country.
If you are an alien living in the country illegally, YOU’RE AN ILLEGAL ALIEN. What are your questions, Jose? The first thing illegal aliens do when they sneak across the border into America is break the Fluken law!
Yeah, language is very important....Just like when 0pansy calls terrorist attacks, “Overseas contingency operations.....”
Language matters.
If you enter our country by avoiding our laws: You ARE ILLegal.
If you KILL our Ambassador: You are a MURDERER
If you vote for 0pansy: You are STUPID
“He says the word is inaccurate, improper and demeaning.”
And I say he lies, lies, and lies.
Go ahead make illegal immigration easy, then the illegal Hispanics will be subsumed by illegal Asians.
Either you are here legally or you are here illegally.
End of story.
You don’t ban “illegal”
Those who agree with Mr. Vargas say illegal should be banned because it suggests that illegal immigrants are criminals, which often isnt true. No human being is illegal, they say.
Is it illegal for me to sneak into a sporting event without paying?
They are illegal entrants, and they are visitors ~ not immigrants at all since you need an immigration visa to be an immigrant.
I prefer to call them “illegal tourists who are broke” ~ else they’d go home like the other visitors do when their time is up.
Criminal invaders
He’s the one that Lou Dobbs skewered when he tried to tell Lou not to say “illegal immigrant”
At any one time about half of them are visa overstays ~ so they didn’t illegally ‘invade’ ~ we let them in. We forgot to enforce our visas.
What is even more disturbing is that the NY Times obbudswoman has “been looking into it” and will “weigh in soon”.
But then again, these liberals have successfully changed the meaning of the word “marriage” after about 6000 years of a universally understood definition of marriage.
We are entering a dark age, and if history is a precedent, western civilization is over and the muslims will once again rule the world for centuries. And they won’t be nice about it.
Remember when the word “militia” conjured up images of patriotism and honor?
But by overstaying their visas, they have violated the law, so they are now in this country illegally.
The term “wetback” works for me.
Marxists destroy language to control the allowed thoughts. Those who control the meaning of words (and allowed associations) control concepts. (especially the children-—turn off your TV! and get them OUT of public schools).
Erase ‘illegal’-—and they are legal in the eyes of the masses.
That is why they equate God’s rainbow with homosexuals....to mock the Bible in the eyes of children. Destroys the impact and ideas of the Bible.
They put words together “homosexual marriage”-—an idea never ever expressed prior to the 80’s, because it is such a stupid, impossible, non-rational concept.
Why?-—To normalize the idea, no matter how absurd, if it is in the dialogue—it becomes a fact. The concept-—especially in the eyes of the young...who will soon be the voters and politicians will not only normalize Vice , but actually take “Pride” in Vice—because they were brainwashed into it.
That will collapsed Civil Society to promote Vice because it destroys Justice-—doesn’t matter. Irrationality (emotions) rules in the masses will be “Rights”. Right Reason and the Laws of Nature are no longer the Supreme Law of the Land. No absolutes-—just arbitrary law not based in logic destroyed Rome. (Cicero).
Good becomes Evil.....Words —when you destroy their meaning—you limit the concepts allowed. Marriage-—now people have to put an adjective before it-—never happened when we were a Christian Constitutional Republic. Now words have no meaning——so there can be no debate—no understanding-—especially by the children.
Nothing makes sense. Irrational thinkers will believe anything and allow themselves to become slaves and will sell their souls to Satan.
That’s right ~ now they are ILLEGAL TOURISTS ~ and it’s time for them to go back home.
Illegals have far more rights than law-abiding US citizens. I’d sure like to know what laws I can break that, not only will I not be punished for breaking, but will be rewarded for breaking.
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