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How the Republican Elite will Steal the Nomination from Donald Trump
Lame Cherry ^ | March 27, 2016 | Lame Cherry

Posted on 03/27/2016 11:48:04 AM PDT by Art in Idaho

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Looks like we can contact our Republican State delegates. Couldn't find a contact list for each state but at The Green Peppers site, they have a State Delegate Allocation List. Can also check at Contact your State Legislators Click your state and with some digging, may be able to contact your state RNC delegates.

It goes without saying that this election on November 8 is the most important in our lifetimes. Fight!

1 posted on 03/27/2016 11:48:04 AM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho

I am sure they will try, but hope they won’t succeed.


2 posted on 03/27/2016 11:50:43 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Art in Idaho

If Trump shows up with a plurality, and the GOPe engineer giving the nomination to anyone else, then welcome President Hillary the destruction of the Republican Party.

As a Cruz supporter: I’LL LEAVE.


3 posted on 03/27/2016 11:50:48 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (No vote has been changed due to an FR post in about 2 months. Chillax.)
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To: Art in Idaho
"How the Republican Elite Democrat operatives will Steal the Nomination from Donald Trump"

Corrected. I refuse to see them as Republicans anymore because they are not in the slightest. Seriously, the gig is up, they are deliberately trying to get Hillary elected and it's going to be absolutely outrageous if we allow these DEMOCRATS to disrupt our own nomination process, there is going to a riot if these sleaze bags try to pull this BS.

4 posted on 03/27/2016 11:56:07 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Can we please kill the guy already who invented the saying "My bad"?)
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To: Innovative; LucyT; hoosiermama; Albion Wilde; maggief; LS; null and void; Velveeta; ...
Bears repeating from the article:

"What the GOP operates as is each of your States has a Chair person, and a committeeman and a committeewoman. It is these three delegates who will arrive the week before the GOP convention to vote on the rules to steal this from Donald Trump. I urge you, because I have just done this in writing this article, is for each of you to look up your Republican State Party, find out who these three people are, and contact each of them, respectfully expressing your concerns and asking for them to explain exactly what they are going to be doing or expecting in this rules committee set up. This is our responsibility."

5 posted on 03/27/2016 11:59:53 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho
Let me explain something in all of you should follow this link and actually read the Republican Rule Book as it is online and available.

Let me explain something to you, Lame Cherry. If you read the rules, you sure didn't understand them. Nobody is moving the freaking goal posts.

There are no goal posts. Each convention votes in its own rules. Until they do, there are only suggested guidelines!

6 posted on 03/27/2016 12:00:40 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Art in Idaho
Donald Trump can file an injunction over and there will be a hearing at the Supreme Court,

No there won't be. The courts have ruled repeatedly that political parties make their own rules. Political association is still a choice in America. If you don't like the party rules, disassociate or change the rules by gaining a majority.

7 posted on 03/27/2016 12:04:38 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Art in Idaho

What I learned: It doesn’t matter if or how I vote. Confirmed what it has seemed like since 1992. Great.


8 posted on 03/27/2016 12:04:53 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Art in Idaho

Since Senor Rafael de Cruz is involved with stealing
delegates, his Chrisianity and Beck-announced
“annointing”, (more like appointing), is to my eyes,
a thin fence whitewashing.

My vote is for Trump.

If this GOP Cincinnati clusterbuck offers any seated
or past-due, out-of-date-backroom-circle-yank
politician, then the American voting populace
should declare open pitchfork season on all
names on that attendance roster, with their
pictures on every poster board in every supermarket.

I ditched and switched, to vote for Trump. If the
GOP does what they propose to do, I will ditch and
switch back, and vote for Gary Johnson on the
Libertarian ticket.


9 posted on 03/27/2016 12:06:18 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Art in Idaho

First off, I know for a fact that in SC, if you are elected as a delegate you have to vote on the first ballot for the winner of your district. Which in this case is Trump, after that if there are any other ballots taken, they are free to vote for whomever. Don’t like, then change the law in SC, then don’t whine when in four years or eight that rule now is working for the establishment. Second, every state has their own rules on how this works, how the delegates are chosen, how they are apportioned, etc. etc. So there is a legal framework in place. Second nowhere except the Northern Mariana Islands has trump scored a majority of voters, he has won a plurality. In America, we don’t have rule by the plurality, we don’t even have rule by majority. We have rule by majority of representation, meaning you have to win a majority of a specific group of majorities. I.E. The Electoral College.

Third, it is not a Bribe if it is legal, and offering incentives for a delegates support is technically legal. Where Trump is going to have problems is where Ted Cruz is in a position to failing the outright nomination, do what Ron Paul wanted to do in 2008, and 2012.

That was force the nomination into a second or third ballot, and have more of his supporters as delegates who would vote for him when it got three ballots in. Romney and McCain stopped that by winning it on the first ballot.


10 posted on 03/27/2016 12:06:46 PM PDT by PA-LU Student (Ted Cruz. The one man the Republican Field is afraid to debate one on one!)
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To: Art in Idaho
What the GOP operates as is each of your States has a Chair person, and a committeeman and a committeewoman. It is these three delegates who will arrive the week before the GOP convention to vote on the rules to steal this from Donald Trump.

Wrong again. The Rules Committee votes on proposed rules that must be passed by the entire national delegation.

11 posted on 03/27/2016 12:08:03 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Art in Idaho

The Cruz scandal has destroyed the Gope’s plan. He might not win another state. Kasich by himself will not stop Trump.


12 posted on 03/27/2016 12:08:17 PM PDT by philippa
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To: Uncle Miltie
As a Cruz supporter: I’LL LEAVE.

As a Trump supporter, thank you. We have to stick together or we're all cooked.

13 posted on 03/27/2016 12:08:26 PM PDT by Nita Nupress (https://soundcloud.com/breitbart/breitbart-news-saturday-stephen-miller-february-26-2016 MUST LISTEN)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Let me explain something to you, Lame Cherry. If you read the rules, you sure didn't understand them. Nobody is moving the freaking goal posts.

Let me explain something to you. If there are no rules, then there is no reason to have primaries.
14 posted on 03/27/2016 12:09:33 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - He's creepy and he's kooky, mysterious and spooky)
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To: Art in Idaho

https://www.gop.com/leaders/states/


15 posted on 03/27/2016 12:09:48 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Art in Idaho

Reading for later.


16 posted on 03/27/2016 12:10:07 PM PDT by MWestMom (Down, down, down the rabbit hole we go.....)
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To: Uncle Miltie
If Trump shows up with a plurality, and the GOPe engineer giving the nomination to anyone else, then welcome President Hillary the destruction of the Republican Party. As a Cruz supporter: I’LL LEAVE.

I used to feel that way too, but no longer. I thought Trump would begin to act more Presidential as he accumulated delegates. He isn't. Acting like a 7th grader with the twitter crap is beyond counterproductive. I'm tired of the adolescent behavior.

17 posted on 03/27/2016 12:13:52 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Just to be clear -

There are two rules committees. One is the RNC Rules Committee, the other is the Convention Rules Committee. The RNC Rules Committee will meet in late April, AFAIK. Only the Convention Rules Committee requires a majority vote of convention delegates for changes.

But note that the Convention Rules Committee will adopt or reject or modify the rules put in place by the RNC, and those actions will require a majority convention vote.


18 posted on 03/27/2016 12:17:37 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Art in Idaho

As a Cruz supporter, I’ll be voting Trump because I want a first ballot victory for the most conservative candidate who can win on that first ballot. The alternative is an establishment pick on the second or a later ballot, and that would be much worse than Cruz or Trump.

I approve of both Cruz and Kasich staying in the race, since Kasich gives the establishment some hope, and Cruz splits the anti-Trump vote. I approve of Cruz maneuvering for delegates, as Kasich is doing, and as Trump is doing. That is how it has always been done, just like bluffing is accepted in poker. Their mutual efforts should (mostly) neutralize each other and cancel out.

RULE NO. 16 says that bound delegates must vote as bound on the first ballot.

As for rule 40b, read it carefully.

https://cdn.gop.com/docs/2012_RULES_Adopted.pdf (page number 39-40 on the pages; pdf file pages 43-44)

“RULE NO. 40 (b) Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination. Notwithstanding any other provisions of these rules or any rule of the House of Representatives, to demonstrate the support required of this paragraph a certificate evidencing the affirmative written support of the required number of permanently seated delegates from each of the eight (8) or more states shall have been submitted to the secretary of the convention not later than one (1) hour prior to the placing of the names of candidates for nomination pursuant to this rule and the established order of business.”

In the second round of voting, even Donald Trump would have to present evidence that he still has the support of a majority of delegates from eight or more states. Also, in the second round of voting, even Jeb could be nominated if he could present certifications from a majority of delegates from eight or more states. Rule 40 (b) does not contain a requirement for a majority of voters in the primaries.

Cruz has a majority of bound delegates in Texas, Kansas, Maine, Idaho, and Utah, for five of the eight he needs. If he gets three more states: including the Rubio delegates from Minnesota, Louisiana, or Puerto Rico; unbound delegates from Colorado, DC, American Samoa; or any of the remaining states, Cruz can be nominated in the first round too. Part of the purpose of unbound delegates is to negotiate with nominees for their support in exactly this manner.

These somewhat ugly rules are how the game is played, and I assume Trump is playing by the same rules. He’d better be proving mastery of The Art of the Deal, or he won’t win.


19 posted on 03/27/2016 12:20:21 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("A Bill of Rights that means what the majority wants it to mean is worthless." - Scalia)
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To: JoSixChip
Let me explain something to you. If there are no rules, then there is no reason to have primaries.

Horsesh*t. Primaries beget the election of delegates to represent the states at the national convention.

The rules concept is no different from how Congress operates by Constitutional design. Each Congress (and each convention) votes on a set rules to govern the elective body. Those rules cannot bind a future Congress (or a convention). Those rules can be amended by the Congress (or convention) who adopted them.

People need to wake the up. They're being incited to anger over a concept that has existed from the foundation of Congress. Attach "GOPe" to it and suddenly a constitutional concept is a conspiracy.

20 posted on 03/27/2016 12:21:41 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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