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Just some thoughts of my own
Self | 1/20/'21 | Zionist Conspirator

Posted on 01/20/2021 7:21:55 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator

For many decades now I have been wracking my brain trying to understand how things work and why nothing seems to make sense. The following observations/theories are my own and no one else is responsible in any way.

Let's look at this freak show of a political coalition: Fundamentalist Blacks, theocratic moslems, sixteenth century Hispanic folk Catholics, scientific materialists, indigenous shamanism, hex-casting "wiccans," and people who put up statues of their conception of "the devil."

Maddening, isn't it?

I would first like to point out that the basic thrust of the left is the celebration of what it considers to be transgressive. And it is here where I can find the only link between all the above groups (and whatever I've missed): the Left believes it is celebrating what "Billy Bob" believes is sinful (or what the Left assumes he believes is sinful). What else is there that ties all these things together? Like medieval "satanism" inverting the crucifix and reciting the mass backwards, the contemporary Western left seems nothing so much as practitioners of inverted chrstianity (though in a more American Protestant form than the traditional variety).

But let us look at the edge of the blade with which they cut us. What is it? It is the civil rights movement. They claim that everything they fight for is implicit in the "I have a dream" speech much as the TFP people find the high middle ages implicit in the sermon on the mount.

What does "blackness" have to do with ritual transgression? Of course I don't know. But I would like to suggest just a few things.

The basic idea is that G-d is unjust and His Laws are oppressive, and one day secularism came along and set people free. And where did this begin? With the civil rights movement.

And no, I'm not arguing for jim crow or segregation. Be patient.

It is unfortunate for a while there almost all Americans treated white supremacy and jim crow as if they were in the Nicene Creed (so to speak). And there are some who still do this. By identifying jim crow as a Divine Law we gave the Left the perfect target. If G-d is anti-black and "oppressive" of "people of color," and if secular "justice" is superior to His, then the same argument can be made against every other traditional moral teaching, including the ones directly from Heaven. And so Martin Luther King Jr., a thorough secularist who believed none of the traditional dogmas of "his" religion, argued vehemently with secular arguments. Appealing to Divine Law became more and more illegitimate, and from now on secular standards of morality and justice were to rule the land, not merely in the name of religious neutrality, but because G-d's Laws had been shown to be "unjust" (which is impossible). First unjust to blacks, then to homosexuals, women wanting abortions, pagans, etc.

Notice that every attempt to slow down moral nihilism, no matter how modest and reasonable, is proclaimed a herald of the return of jim crow, if not of slavery itself. I don't know if black voters believe this or are simply so sheltered by their liberal handlers they they don't realize it's going on. But this is THE argument made against every defense of traditional morality.

Martin Luther King is now not simply the symbol of the civil rights movement, but the entire left secular narrative. Just as J*sus was translated into medieval European civilization, so King is translated into "gay rights," abortion, mass immigration, gender confusion, what-have-you. Just as seeing a picture of J*sus is supposed to conjure up what Protestant critics call "the Roman Catholic system," so King's image is supposed to call up all that is transgressive (by G-d's "unjust" standards). We all know this is true. The Left has its own "magisterium" in which King supposedly taught is closest followers about transhumanism and the "new world oreder." Certainly no one can deny that now the celebration of King is no longer the celebration of the civil rights movement alone but of the whole nihilistic project.

Once again, I don't know why black voters happily agree to this (even if only implicitly), but the civil rights movement is invoked in every new atrocity, and every single promoter of moral nihilism claims to have been inspired by, if not actually part of, the civil rights movement so long ago. And so every single mainstream black politicians, even if the pastor of a sanctified church in the middle of a swamp in the Deepest South, does indeed seem to hold all the same positions on all these other issues.

Perhaps this is precisely the reasoning behind the now universal condemnation of "whiteness." Is it merely the inversion of the traditional allegorical meanings of "white" and "black?" Could it be that simple and that ridiculous. Maybe not, but you never can tell with the current crop of lunatics and psychopaths ruling the western world. Do they truly believe that "blackness" makes "gayness" possible?

As many of you know, I am an old Civil War Southern Republican whose ancestors fought for the Union. I don't know if my view is atypical, but to me blacks were simply one of the oldest non-indigenous population groups in the country (alone with British-descended whites), and I never got the thing about them being so incredibly "foreign" or "other" or what-have-you. I also always thought that one's religious identity was the supreme identity, and that therefore a common Fundamentalist Protestantism (rejected of course by the black political establishment) was the most important tie and meant ultimate unity. Well . . . I've been wrong about that.

Anyway, there is no doubt that some of what we are going through is Divine justice for our behavior in the past, though this does not excuse evil people who campaign for evil things. I just . . . still don't get it. How did blacks going from being one of the two oldest non-indigenous population segments to something "foreign" and "other" and essentially identifying not with their white counterpart but with foreigners who were never slaves here?

I would like to say a lot more but it's late and I'm tired (I'm sure this post is full of typing errors but I simply don't feel like checking for them right now). But I do know that many on our side are reacting in an emotional way and becoming exactly the stereotype the Left has made of us. And no, I don't mean racism, but rather a sort of chrstian American nationalism in which the USA is the Chosen Nation, the Constitution is divinely inspired, and Thomas Jefferson was anointed by G-d. One need not hate America to understand the enlightenment element in our founding and to recall that in solving our problems the best tactic is to cling to G-d, and not to any man.

On top of that, they way our world seems to be vanishing before our very eyes, we could be candidates for the next version of the Ghost Dance movement or the Boxers (who both claimed to be impervious to bullets). That isn't the way to go.

Let us cling to G-d and critique those things in our background and foundation and past that are out of line with His Will.

I'm pooped. Good night.


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1 posted on 01/20/2021 7:21:55 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Civil rights is constitutional rights for all Americans. That was 1964. The Great Society was the war on poverty...1965. The war on poverty was communism American style. Communism is evil. How complicated does it have to be to see the truth?! You do not have to examine each and every tree to realize that the forest is what it is...Either individual freedom or communism. Either an ant colony or freedom. Slavery or freedom.


2 posted on 01/20/2021 7:40:12 PM PST by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I'm glad you're pooped. You couldn't top this for nuttiness.

Where do you get the notion of a 'political coalition' between

'Fundamentalist Blacks, theocratic moslems, sixteenth century Hispanic folk Catholics, scientific materialists, indigenous shamanism, hex-casting "wiccans," and people who put up statues of their conception of "the devil."'

You seem to be lumping huge individual groups of people into one very disparate group and calling it a 'coalition'.

Sleep well.
3 posted on 01/20/2021 7:40:14 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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“For many decades now I have been wracking my brain trying to understand how things work and why nothing seems to make sense.”

What unites the left among many disparate and unrelated groups is an opposition to the basic worldview of Christianity. Sure, they may give lip-service to being Catholic or Christian, but it is only as a marketing brand they’ve coopted for self-aggrandizement like everything else they do.

Other than that the biggest problem with trying to “understand how things work” is the assumption that the modern left makes sense.

The left is insane. Don’t try too hard to make sense of it.


4 posted on 01/20/2021 7:46:07 PM PST by unlearner (Be ready for war.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Thanks. Well worth a read!

The demand to treat all cultures, no matter their success, as equal is a large part of this behavior.
Reality tests cultures and they can be rated on their success or failure.
A “science” that denies that leads to depravity.


5 posted on 01/20/2021 7:46:48 PM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

It’s a fallen world and sin makes no sense.

However our role is not to give up but to be salt and light and love our neighbor which partly means seeking justice and just law so I continue.


6 posted on 01/20/2021 7:46:52 PM PST by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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Neo jim crow is here or coming. Allowing a ban on a group or person based on their political beliefs or ethnic background. Heck, there might even be a whites only or white privilege side door to get the grocery or food. Ask twitter users how it feels not to get service or be removed from the property. Neo jim crow is just starting.
7 posted on 01/20/2021 7:47:51 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: unlearner

It is true. If any law, policy or project is anti biblical it will have the support of the left. A unifying theme.


8 posted on 01/20/2021 7:52:42 PM PST by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: Zionist Conspirator
For many decades now I have been wracking my brain trying to understand how things work and why nothing seems to make sense.

Check out Arvin Ash on Quantum Mechanics. It helps.

9 posted on 01/20/2021 7:58:07 PM PST by BipolarBob (USA - Born July 4, 1776. Died Jan. 20, 2021 in the Year of our Covid - a new error.)
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To: unlearner
Catholic or Christian

Redundant since Catholic is a subgroup of Christian, just like Protestant or Orthodox.

10 posted on 01/20/2021 8:15:46 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“...it’s late and I’m tired...”. “I’m pooped.”

I’ll be generous and grant you that.

“Fundamentalist Blacks, theocratic moslems, sixteenth century Hispanic folk Catholics, scientific materialists, indigenous shamanism, hex-casting “wiccans,” and people who put up statues of their conception of “the devil.” “.

I believe I know what you mean by “theocratic moslems”. I believe I know what you mean by “indigenous shamanism” and “hex-casting “wiccans””, but I don’t see a lot of either. I don’t know what you mean by the rest. This all needs further explanation unless you’re only speaking to your “choir”.

” transgressive”

Again, I don’t know what you mean.

“What else is there that ties all these things together? “

By “these things” I take you to mean the groups you mentioned before, and the question is hard to answer without the further explanation I noted. Without that, one possible answer is “domination”. The groups want domination, either total or partial, and work together for the moment to overcome what they think is the main obstacle to that goal, after which they will turn on each other as each becomes an obstacle to the others.

“It is the civil rights movement.”

I think you need to go further back in time. I tend to believe the effort to destroy the United States has roots prior to the War Between the North and the South.

“Certainly no one can deny...”

I deny it. I might be wrong but so are you in saying “no one can deny” because I do. (Sorry, pet peeve.)

Work on it some more.


11 posted on 01/20/2021 8:23:00 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Simplify:

https://evansayet.com/

watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c


12 posted on 01/20/2021 8:32:41 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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“Redundant since Catholic is a subgroup of Christian, just like Protestant or Orthodox.”

True, but as brand names I don’t hear politicians talk about their “Baptist faith” or “Methodist faith”. On the other hand, Biden and Pelosi claim to have “Catholic faith” even though they don’t really follow any of the Catholic or other traditional Christian beliefs.


13 posted on 01/20/2021 8:33:52 PM PST by unlearner (Be ready for war.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

A: “First, the destruction of Western Civilization”.


14 posted on 01/20/2021 8:48:35 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Allegations of vote fraud cause you to 1)Provide contrary evidence or 2)Censor and erect razor wire)
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“A: “First, the destruction of Western Civilization”. “
Yeah.

Still this is a good read.


15 posted on 01/20/2021 9:06:52 PM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Zionist Conspirator
And no, I don't mean racism, but rather a sort of chrstian [Christian] American nationalism in which the USA is the Chosen Nation, the Constitution is divinely inspired, and Thomas Jefferson was anointed by G-d. One need not hate America to understand the enlightenment element in our founding and to recall that in solving our problems the best tactic is to cling to G-d, and not to any man.

I wouldn't call America "the Chosen Nation," that is Israel. However, God's inspired Word handed down to us by those above most certainly is embedded in the Constitution of these United States. And to no small extent on the teachings of Christ. Ignorance is a standard trait of every species or affiliation of man.

Wisdom is in the presence of the one who has understanding, But the eyes of a fool are on the ends of the earth.

Indeed the best tactic is to cling to Yehovah and Yeshua.

16 posted on 01/20/2021 9:31:12 PM PST by amorphous
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To: Zionist Conspirator

That’s an interesting commentary. Thanks, ZC. I’m not familiar with the acronym, “TFP,” though.

On many of the more high profile counterculture people being transgressive, I see that, too, but have seen it many times before. Some people are simply addicted to bothering others, that is, making other people feel bad, making people stop constructive work, etc.

I don’t know of much else to add, but there are physical brain differences on average in some nations relative to others. Some particular drugs can also cause brain differences, temporary and long term.


17 posted on 01/20/2021 10:58:44 PM PST by familyop
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One more thing from old school criminology. Criminals don’t care as much as others about the consequences of their actions. They neglect to think about the future in some ways.


18 posted on 01/20/2021 11:01:42 PM PST by familyop
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To: Zionist Conspirator
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19 posted on 01/20/2021 11:21:30 PM PST by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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ping for later when i have time to write something.
It’s really quite clear if you are over 60.


20 posted on 01/21/2021 12:03:17 AM PST by chuckles
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