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Find Your Paternal-Line Relatives With Y-Chromosome Matches On Line
Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation ^ | Dec 30, 2005 | Me

Posted on 12/30/2005 4:07:34 AM PST by Pharmboy

If you know your Y-chromosome markers, enter them in the spaces provided in the drop-down menus and it will trace paternal line names and likely countries of origin. Three names popped up in my likely ancestry: Nickle (USA and Scotland), Rogers (USA) and Mahoney (USA).

Here is my Place/Time Analysis:

Important notes:

A match close to 100% for a given time period does not necessarily mean that your paternal-line ancestor lived in that country at that time, only that the closest match in the SMGF database had a paternal-line ancestor living in that place and time. In general, the above graph may not imply actual ancestry, just most likely ancestry based on the current SMGF Y-chromosome database.

The highest-likelihood matches may refer to paternal-line cousins rather than to direct paternal-line ancestors. It is possible that a close paternal-line cousin migrated to a country that your direct-line ancestors never lived in.

The closest match in a given time and country may not be genetically related to other individuals in that country at that time. This graph refers to specific individuals living in the country, not necessarily to the country as a whole.


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: ancestry; genealogy; godsgravesglyphs; ychromosome
Those Mormons are pretty good at this stuff, eh?
1 posted on 12/30/2005 4:07:36 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: martin_fierro; thefactor; blam; SunkenCiv; aculeus; PatrickHenry

I came upon this site through a genealogy discussion board. I did NOT ping the pingmeisters (PH; SC) in order for you to ping your lists, but just because I thought you might be interested in this Sorenson site if you've done your Y-haplotypes (or if you're a Mahoney, Nickle or Rogers and we are perhaps, cousins).


2 posted on 12/30/2005 4:11:34 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: neverdem; CobaltBlue

Ping...


3 posted on 12/30/2005 4:17:12 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy; b_sharp; Ichneumon; longshadow; CarolinaGuitarman; Thatcherite; Coyoteman; js1138; ...

Neat article. My Y-haplotypes are probably best unknown. I'm pinging "the few" ...


4 posted on 12/30/2005 4:18:55 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
My Y-haplotypes are probably best unknown.

LOL! What could you possibly find that you'd rather not know? Hey--I hear Genghis Khan even had a soft side...or perhaps you'd find out that you and I are cousins 1,500 generations removed??

5 posted on 12/30/2005 4:23:35 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

genealogy bump


6 posted on 12/30/2005 4:54:35 AM PST by NonValueAdded (What ever happened to "Politics stops at the water's edge?")
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To: hummingbird

Poing


7 posted on 12/30/2005 5:04:51 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Battle Axe

Pingvs


8 posted on 12/30/2005 5:05:48 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Pharmboy
Does anyone else find this a bit creepy?

Besides, I can't imagine asking my brother or father for a DNA sample.

Hey, Dad. Could I just swab your cheek for a bit? I want to know about my ancestors.

9 posted on 12/30/2005 5:23:52 AM PST by Chanticleer (A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson)
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To: Pharmboy
How exactly do I find out my Y chromosome markers. I have a brother who would most likely go along with this.
10 posted on 12/30/2005 5:31:46 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Chanticleer; Ditter
Lemme 'splain. Creepy? If you are uninterested in your ancestry, I still don't get "creepy."

If you're a woman, they do a mitochondrial DNA which gives your maternal line. If you are a guy, then you only need to swab your own cheek. If your dad or brother does it (or paternal uncle, for that matter) YOU do not have to do it since ALL the men in your family with the same last name have the same Y chromosome as you.

11 posted on 12/30/2005 5:42:24 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

This is not creepy at all. I want to do it. My brother is the last living male of our line. My father was the only son and my brother his only son. My brother has 2 daughters. He will go along with it but I just don't know what to do with the swab.


12 posted on 12/30/2005 5:54:08 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Pharmboy
Because I'm still trying to deal with Darwin's crazy claim I have ape ancestors I'll pass on this one.

sarcasm ended.

13 posted on 12/30/2005 6:02:00 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Ditter
Click here to start your genetic journey...
14 posted on 12/30/2005 6:22:40 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy
Guess I'm just old school. Mom and Dad tell you who your ancestors are, if they know, and you take their word for it.

It seems a bit Brave New World, Apocalypse time kinda thing. Like some day, we'll carry our genetic code around like a Driver's License, and the markers will determine what we will or will not be able to do. I've probably read too much dystopian literature or seen one too many SF shows.

It may be a bit paranoid, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility. I guess I just don't want my DNA in a database somewhere. Heck, I don't even like to give out my Social Security number! I think I'll keep my markers to myself.

Still, it is intriguing. Maybe one day my curiosity will get the better of me.

15 posted on 12/30/2005 6:46:51 AM PST by Chanticleer (A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson)
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To: Pharmboy

Thanks, I e-mailed it to my brother.


16 posted on 12/30/2005 7:15:17 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Chanticleer
Understood. It was, however, pretty thrilling for me to find out (with a high degree of certainty) that my paternal ancestors were the cave-painting Cro Magnons from western Europe (although I do suspect that my particular ancestors would have suggested wallpaper).

( :-D

17 posted on 12/30/2005 7:50:03 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm some kind of American mongrel and I like it that way.
18 posted on 12/30/2005 8:13:16 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: martin_fierro
Thanks, martin_fierro! A genealogy bump!
19 posted on 12/30/2005 8:47:50 AM PST by hummingbird (Festivus, a Holiday for the Rest of Us!)
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To: Pharmboy

Thanks for the ping. There was a GGG topic about the National Genographic, oops, Geographic article on an mtDNA study ($100 a head) in which one could participate. I didn't do that either. ;')

I've seen my own genealogy going back in some lines twelve generations, and have never encountered any crossed lines, so I'm inclined to think that I'm probably cousins with about half of America. :')

There was another topic on FR, I've been unable to find it, regarding a claim that everyone is descended from a single individual who lived in Asia a mere 3500 years ago, IOW, only that (he or) she was our last common ancestor. I wonder if anyone has the link? Good time to post the GGG links update.


20 posted on 12/30/2005 9:08:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just adding this to the GGG catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
"Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list or GGG weekly digest
-- Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

21 posted on 12/30/2005 9:10:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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To: VadeRetro
I'm some kind of American mongrel and I like it that way.

What scares me is a persistent family rumor that -- among with a collection of other dubious ancestors -- we are descended from one of the Hessians. I'd rather not know.

22 posted on 12/30/2005 10:21:32 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"There was another topic on FR, I've been unable to find it, regarding a claim that everyone is descended from a single individual who lived in Asia a mere 3500 years ago, IOW, only that (he or) she was our last common ancestor. I wonder if anyone has the link? Good time to post the GGG links update."

I remember the article too but, you know me, I can't find anything.

23 posted on 12/30/2005 11:11:52 AM PST by blam
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To: Pharmboy
Find Your Paternal-Line Relatives With Y-Chromosome Matches On Line

How much do I have to bleed on my keyboard and for how long? LOL

24 posted on 12/30/2005 11:14:21 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: blam
I found nothing. And searching through my 15 to 20 thousand posts seems a little bit too much like work. Here are things that didn't work:

+"common ancestor" site:freerepublic.info
Google
+"common ancestor" site:freerepublic.com
Google
+"David Derbyshire" site:freerepublic.com
Google
Here's a link to the original story.
25 posted on 12/30/2005 11:28:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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To: blam; Pharmboy

a ha!

The Genographic Project (Have Your DNA Checked, Find Your Roots)
National Geographic - IBM | 6-15-2005
Posted on 06/15/2005 11:34:14 AM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1423472/posts

Genes To Help Tell 'Story Of Everybody'
ABC.net | 4-13-2005
Posted on 04/13/2005 4:49:43 PM PDT by blahttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1383211/posts

a much older topic, which helps expose some of the inherent foolishness:

The Human Family Tree: 10 Adams and 18 Eves
NY Times | May 2, 2000 | NICHOLAS WADE
Posted on 10/10/2004 8:21:08 PM PDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1241240/posts


26 posted on 12/30/2005 1:11:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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To: Pharmboy

Sounds like a good winter project to me. I think I'll sign up if I can scrape together a spare $100.


27 posted on 12/30/2005 1:22:18 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: PatrickHenry
What scares me is a persistent family rumor that -- among with a collection of other dubious ancestors -- we are descended from one of the Hessians.

Now you've let the cat out of the bag. For the coming year, the creos will have a new cavalier dismissal for your posts.

28 posted on 12/30/2005 2:09:00 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro

I can live with that, but I hope they don't figure out the whole "ape" thing.


29 posted on 12/30/2005 2:34:33 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
You'd think the pond scum angle would bother them more.
30 posted on 12/30/2005 2:52:01 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro

Now you've gone and done it.

Pond Scum Alert!

Pond Scum Alert!

Pond Scum Alert!


31 posted on 12/30/2005 2:57:12 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: Pharmboy

I wanted to sign my husband up to donate DNA to the database but was stumped by the following requirement, "My pedigree chart begins with me." Huh? I cannot parse that into English.
http://smgf.org/request_a_free_kit.html

Not sure if they want female DNA as well -- it seems that they do? It's just not clear.


32 posted on 12/30/2005 2:58:43 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Chanticleer
Besides, I can't imagine asking my brother or father for a DNA sample.

I already tried this.

Results were as I feared. My dad accused me of thinking he wasn't my "real" father and my brother promised to do it but took the kit and it was never seen again.

33 posted on 12/30/2005 3:00:40 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue

LOL, just what I imagined!


34 posted on 12/30/2005 3:04:09 PM PST by Chanticleer (Happy New Year!)
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To: Pharmboy

That was you? You know, your folks probably broke several environmental laws, defaced public property (unless they owned their caves), harmed wildlife in the making of the paintings.... This could run you a pretty penny.


35 posted on 12/30/2005 3:07:30 PM PST by Chanticleer (Happy New Year!)
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To: Pharmboy

I think "my pedigree chart begins with me" means that I can trace from myself upwards. They require 4-6 generations.

I am amazed at how many lines can be traced back 10 or more generations -- heavy lifting done by people other than myself, I assure you!


36 posted on 12/30/2005 3:09:19 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Pharmboy

Oh, forgot to mention. Husband is "Young, House, Manning, Collingwood, Luttecke, Curtis". Not one of which rings any particular bells.


37 posted on 12/30/2005 3:11:09 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue

We can trace parts of my husband's line back 7 generations. We can trace parts of mine for 8 generations. We're pretty much what you'd guess with a quick look at us -- Americans descended from northern and western Europeans. Of course, that's assuming that the research was done properly, and everyone was telling the truth about their children's parentage, etc. I like genealogy -- find it interesting. I'd love to find I have great and noble blood in my ancestry, but I'm just as likely to have lowly or villainous blood! In the end, it's what you do from here on out that matters.


38 posted on 12/30/2005 3:24:42 PM PST by Chanticleer (Happy New Year!)
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To: Chanticleer

I've been doing genealogy for many years. Doubt very much that we have one drop of noble blood -- no idea whether any villainous blood, neither.

I just get a tremendous kick out of the history of it.

You can trace back the entire written history of America over just a little bit more than 400 years!

I have ancestors who were Native Americans but those are very hard to trace back.

The earliest came over on the Mayflower, or to Jamestown, or were early French-Canadians, including Acadians. There were ones that served in the Revolutionary War, and ones that went west with Lewis and Clark, and ones that fought on both sides of the Civil War.

To heck with nobility! Being an American is as noble as I care to be!


39 posted on 12/30/2005 5:34:55 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Pharmboy

It hink everyone is a cousin 1500 generations removed.


40 posted on 01/01/2006 12:10:54 PM PST by Bogey78O (<thinking of new tagline>)
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To: Bogey78O

At 27 years a generation, you're right. How about 25-40 generations?


41 posted on 01/01/2006 12:22:52 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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related topics, a sort of bump within a bump.

DNA helps unscramble the puzzles of ancestry
Sacramento Bee | August 3, 2003 | Stephen Magagnini
Posted on 08/03/2003 5:43:41 PM PDT by farmfriend
Edited on 04/12/2004 5:54:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/957606/posts

From Shared Resources, Your Personal History
NY Times | April 22, 2004 | PETER WAYNER
Posted on 04/21/2004 11:27:19 PM PDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1122279/posts

On the hunt for grave sites
[Champaign, Ill.] News-Gazette | July 12, 2004 | Tracy Moss
Posted on 07/12/2004 7:09:14 PM PDT by SteveH
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1170112/posts

Geographic Society Is Seeking a Genealogy of Humankind
NY Times | April 13, 2005 | NICHOLAS WADE
Posted on 04/13/2005 3:33:59 AM PDT by Pharmboy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1382672/posts

Archaic Genes in Modern People?
Science Magazine | 2005-04-22 | Elizabeth Culotta
Posted on 04/23/2005 8:30:41 PM PDT by Lessismore
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1389975/posts

The Genographic Project (Have Your DNA Checked, Find Your Roots)
National Geographic - IBM | 6-15-2005
Posted on 06/15/2005 11:34:14 AM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1423472/posts

Anonymous sperm donor traced on internet
New Scientist | November 3, 2005 | Allison Motluk
Posted on 11/05/2005 5:59:15 AM PST by billorites
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1516210/posts


42 posted on 01/24/2006 11:20:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: caryatid; CobaltBlue; Jessarah; Ol' Sox; Old Student; Pharmboy; RikaStrom; StayAt HomeMother; ...
Genetic
Genealogy
Send FReepmail if you want on/off GGP list
Marty = Paternal Haplogroup O(2?) (M175)
GG LINKS:
FamilyTree DNA
Nat'l Geographic Genographic Project
Oxford Ancestors
RelativeGenetics
Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation
ysearch
The List of Ping Lists

43 posted on 01/25/2006 7:17:09 PM PST by martin_fierro (GO STILLERS!!!!)
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