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Neolithic Europeans Made Cheese, Yogurt
Discovery News ^ | January 25, 2006 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 01/25/2006 10:09:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv

Dirty cooking pots dating to nearly 8,000 years ago reveal that some of Europe's earliest farming communities produced dairy products, such as cheese and yogurt. Two separate studies indicate that Neolithic dairying took place in what are now Romania, Hungary and Switzerland... Craig and his team studied fatty residues stuck on ceramic cooking vessels found at the left bank of the Danube near Romania and at the Great Hungarian Plain. The dirty pots date from 5,950-5500 B.C. Analysis of the fats suggests they belonged to goat or sheep milk... In another paper published in the current Journal of Archaeological Science, Spangenberg and his team conducted a similar study on dirty cooking pot shards found at a site called Arbon Bleiche 3 on the southwestern shore of Lake Constance in Switzerland. The shards date to 3384-3370 B.C. The Swiss scientists compared the carbon and nitrogen isotope signatures of the residues with those of fats found in today's organic milks and cheeses. The residue signatures closely matched those for cow, goat and sheep milk... The researchers theorized that the cheese would have been similar to modern fresh goat cheese and farmer's cheese. Sour cream also likely was produced. Bones that belonged to domestic cows, pigs, goats, sheep and dogs also were found at the Swiss site where numerous individual family farms appear to have been located around 6,000 years ago... In addition to the animal bones, several fish bones also were excavated at the site, along with evidence for hazelnuts, strawberries, blackberries, raspberries, crab apples and sloe plums.

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1 posted on 01/25/2006 10:09:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 01/25/2006 10:09:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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3 posted on 01/25/2006 10:10:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, but did they have macaroni to go with the cheese? That would be a sign of an advanced civilzation.


4 posted on 01/25/2006 10:11:19 AM PST by garyhope (Happy, healthy, prosperous New Year to all good Freepers and our brave military.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Dirty cooking pots dating to nearly 8,000 years ago

I think I might have one of those in the back of my fridge...

5 posted on 01/25/2006 10:11:54 AM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: garyhope
Yes, but did they have macaroni to go with the cheese? That would be a sign of an advanced civilzation.

And from there, it was only a short technological advance to bad Kraft TV commercials.

6 posted on 01/25/2006 10:12:34 AM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: SunkenCiv
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Yes, but did they have a nice juicy hamburger to put that chees on?
7 posted on 01/25/2006 10:23:34 AM PST by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: dirtboy; garyhope

A couple dozen feet deeper, if they care to look, in a layer dating to the last Ice Age, they'll excavate the first ice cream making dairy equipment.


8 posted on 01/25/2006 10:24:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: SunkenCiv

They were probably using animals and making cheese etc. longer ago than 8,000 years.


9 posted on 01/25/2006 10:28:34 AM PST by Dustbunny (Can we build it - Yes we can - Bob the Builder - Can we win it - Yes we can - Geo. W. Bush)
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To: Old Seadog

A big juicy slab of auroch...


10 posted on 01/25/2006 10:34:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Dirty cooking pots dating to nearly 8,000 years ago

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Evidently dish-washing has never been a popular activity.

11 posted on 01/25/2006 10:37:21 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Dustbunny
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12 posted on 01/25/2006 10:38:58 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: TheBigB

I like cheese. Do you like cheese?


13 posted on 01/25/2006 10:40:04 AM PST by Serb5150 (Mr. T is allergic to doorknobs. That's why he can only kick through doors.)
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To: trisham

I grok that. [cave man talk]


14 posted on 01/25/2006 10:41:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: Serb5150
I wub cheese! :^)

15 posted on 01/25/2006 10:43:31 AM PST by TheBigB (***FOX NEWS ALERT: Energizer bunny arrested, charged with battery THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT***)
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To: Coleus

three pings in one. :')

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16 posted on 01/25/2006 11:03:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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two of my favorites:
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17 posted on 01/25/2006 11:06:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Fondue, anyone?


18 posted on 01/25/2006 12:09:12 PM PST by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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To: SunkenCiv
auroch CATEGORY: fauna DEFINITION: The name of an extinct species of wild ox (Bos primigenius), the ancestor of present-day domestic cattle, which became extinct in the 17th century AD. It was described by Caesar as Urus and it inhabited Europe and the British Isles in ancient times and survived in most Recent times in Lithuania, Poland, and Prussia. The name has often been applied erroneously to another species, the European bison, which still exists in the Lithuania forests. It was probably domesticated in some places, such as in eastern Hungary during the 4th millennium BC.
See I know what that is.
19 posted on 01/25/2006 3:28:17 PM PST by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: dirtboy

Sigh. I have one on my cupboard.


20 posted on 01/25/2006 3:33:36 PM PST by FrogMom
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To: SunkenCiv
.......these findings lend support to the idea that the antiquity of dairying lies with the origins of animal domestication in southwest Asia some two millennia earlier, prior to its transmission to Europe in the seventh millennia B.C.......

I would like to know what leads them to believe this. Sadly, no supporting information is included in the short article.

21 posted on 01/25/2006 4:21:45 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr

Yeah, due to a lack of detail, that claim udderly breaks down...


22 posted on 01/25/2006 10:33:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: colorado tanker

"If there's cheese fondue, what about cheese fon-don't?" -- George Carlin


23 posted on 01/25/2006 10:34:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: Old Seadog

I had to look it up, couldn't remember the bleepin' name.


24 posted on 01/25/2006 10:36:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: trisham

my thoughts exactly.. some things never change


25 posted on 01/26/2006 3:14:48 AM PST by wafflehouse
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