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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: DelaWhere

Food storage simply is setting aside those items that will be used at a future time (tomorrow, next week, next month, or later than that.) <<<

Yes, you are correct.

One never knows when the car will not start, or one is sick or there is a storm, or simply no money.

I always wanted a fully stocked pantry, as I hate going to stores.

Shopping once a month is enough for me.

I know how good it feels to see company drive in and know that I can feed them, or the safety of just having it.

It is only in the past year that i am having to throw out canned goods that are not that old, 6 months is about all the time that it is safe to have a can on the shelf.

Rotate-Rotate that is the magic word.


3,901 posted on 03/06/2009 2:21:05 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Rice Milk<<<

I am glad you caught that...

Who would think of putting rice in rice milk?

Laughing.


3,902 posted on 03/06/2009 2:22:18 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Avoiding Colds and the Flu

Well, that’s what I get for not keeping up. I’ve had a cold all week, and a bit of pink eye as of yesterday, to keep things exciting. I’m feeling better today, but didn’t get my canner over to the extension service like I planned. Next week. Oh, well, I am prepared for next time.
Thanks for posting all these goodies, Granny.


3,903 posted on 03/06/2009 2:33:06 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

The Possible Mastermind of a Police State in America
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2200815/posts
<<<

Interesting, thanks for the link.

They did not cover all the changes clinton made in the 90’s.


3,904 posted on 03/06/2009 2:37:53 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: teenyelliott

Back to Eden
by Jethro Kloss

The foundation for many of the herbal healing books of today, and also has recipes.

and:

Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening
by J.I. Rodale and Staff

About plants, gardens and how to do things to grow or eat.


3,905 posted on 03/06/2009 2:41:24 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Eagle50AE

Bless You for the wealth of information , just have to make time to read all of it..<<<

You are getting too much sleep, and need to spend more time reading.

Laughing and happy that folks are interested in some of the things that interest me.


3,906 posted on 03/06/2009 2:42:58 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: upcountry miss

LOL - I got to know the pulling calves pretty well...
The part I didn’t like was a vet who was a friend and who wanted to get me to be a vet too used to call on me (because of my long arms) when he had a still born that had to be taken out in pieces... Hated that job but those citified owners would never get their hands that dirty...


3,907 posted on 03/06/2009 2:44:39 PM PST by DelaWhere ("Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: Marmolade

Please don’t give up trying to post things. (((hugs))) to you.<<<

I am a willing returner of hugs.

We will do our best to keep this thread going, and don’t forget we have a back up thread at Yahoo.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SurvivalGardening/

It isn’t as large as this thread, but it will be in time.

Thanks for reading and joining in the thread.


3,908 posted on 03/06/2009 2:48:07 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Basil, Rosemary and Parmesan French Bread

2 1/4tsp/1 pkg dry yeast
2 tsp sugar
9 ozs/2 1/4 cups bread flour
1 tsp chopped fresh or dried rosemary
1/2 tsp dried basil
1/2 tsp dried thyme
1/2 tsp dried oregano
1/2 tsp salt
1 cup water

1 tsp olive oil
3 Tbs grated Parmesan
1 tsp chopped fresh or dried rosemary
1/4 tsp garlic powder

Follow manufacturer’s instructions for placing flour and next 8 ingredients into bread pan; select dough cycle, and start bread machine. Remove dough from machine before baking cycle. Preheat oven to 350°F. Turn dough out onto lightly floured board; rub with oil. Shape into a 12” long loaf and place on baking sheet. Combine cheese, rosemary, and garlic powder; sprinkle over top of loaf. Bake at 350°F for 45 minutes or until loaf sounds hollow when tapped. Remove from pan; cool on a wire rack.

My other groups: favoritefamilyrecipes@yahoogroups.com and moderator of BisquickRecipes@yahoogroups.com.


3,909 posted on 03/06/2009 2:49:07 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Thank you granny!!! Added to my Amazon shopping cart...
3,910 posted on 03/06/2009 2:53:01 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Marmolade

But I think I will check at the Ace hardware and about and see if I can find some to purchase. I don’t really need another project.<<<

Good, I hope you find the wicks.

For me, fire is the one area that I don’t play around with.


3,911 posted on 03/06/2009 2:55:49 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I can help out with the prayers!


3,912 posted on 03/06/2009 2:55:57 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: Marmolade

>>>I see there are different kinds of wheat. What kind(s) do you recommend and for what use?<<<

I grow mostly hard red winter wheat... Higher protein and develops good gluten for breads.

Most of what is grown around here is soft winter wheat - better for biscuits, cakes and such. I do have a patch of it growing only because I didn’t save enough hard red winter wheat.

I don’t really do anything with the Durham which is mostly for pasta.

There are several others - prairie gold, white, etc. but I haven’t done much more than try them and didn’t see much difference.

Gosh, hard to tell if you will have spill over from the highway... I would think that being better prepared is worth more than heading for the hills with no place to really go that was prepared.


3,913 posted on 03/06/2009 2:56:00 PM PST by DelaWhere ("Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: CottonBall

That’s why I am heartened (is that a word?) by gun sales being through the roof since November. The people will be ready. (Some of us, at least)<<<

Laughing and thinking, from the number of gun sales, there are a lot more people prepared, then there was a year ago.


3,914 posted on 03/06/2009 2:57:12 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Wneighbor

“Will keep you posted on the progress through the spring”

I am anxious to hear how this works out for you. Was thinking of trying it myself. It’s a bit early for me to start (and besides, my potato starts haven’t arrived yet)


3,915 posted on 03/06/2009 3:09:14 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: DelaWhere; Marmolade

Good place for me to jump in and repost a good idea.

Dr. Bill Wattenberg of kgo.com and pushback.com, a nuclea/weapon/spaceship scientist and teacher, who does a weekend science type radio program on the radio, for the past 30 years or more.

Dr. Bill always asks “Do you have a place to go and can you get there on the gas in your car, without getting caught in the traffic?”

Most give him an answer such as “to my parents home in a small Calif. town”.

To which he reminds them that on his Gov. think tank job, the scientists estimate there will 25 million folks headed for that small town, attempting to get out of the cities, without food, water, supplies or even the money to buy them.

He has attempted for years to convince folks that if the electric is not on, the gas pumps will not work, nor will the ATM machine or the credit card systems.

Wellton Arizona is 237 miles from San Diego, during the cold war, the Military sent its Officers to the local school boards and ordered them to be prepared, for they could expect the masses of southern California people to arrive on their properties..........a friend was on the board and so that is a first hand report.

Catherine told him she was a Mormon and had a food supply and she said he looked her up and down [an attractive lady, a little plump], and told her “yes, you look well fed and I will kill you now, for your food”...........

Now for a good idea, a caller called the program and suggested that everyone install a second hot water heater, beside the first one.

The new one is not to have heat, it is to be first in line for the cold water, so that the constant flow of fresh water through it and into heater #1, means that you always have 40 or 50 gallons of fresh water for drinking.

You will have shut off valves on both the in and out pipes, so it can be isolated and water drawn from the bottom cleaning faucet.

Dr. Bill liked the idea and has suggested it several times, and I agree, a safe, clean, supply of fresh water.

My kind of water storage.


3,916 posted on 03/06/2009 3:17:30 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: teenyelliott

Thank you granny!!! Added to my Amazon shopping cart...<<<

I am thinking that it was Buy.com that has in the past had the cheap copies of Back to Eden and when I google it, the google has several links that might interest a shopper of the internet.

http://www.google.com/search?q=buy.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


3,917 posted on 03/06/2009 3:20:37 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Marmolade

It is good that you are feeling better.

Oregano Essential Oil, is what I use to keep chronic sinus infection away.

Just open the bottle and smell, it kill the infection in a day or so, if I get careless and let it happen.


3,918 posted on 03/06/2009 3:22:33 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

You can take that water heater idea a step further by installing a bladder tank instead, which will give about 40 gallons or so under pressure, even if the mains are down. Always place a check valve ahead of the bladder tank to prevent it from draining back to the main.


3,919 posted on 03/06/2009 3:23:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: CottonBall

“Hope you don’t mind my jumping in here,”

Not at all. Is bulgar wheat different from hard and soft wheat? I noticed there were recipes a while back using bulgar. (or is it not wheat?)

“Sounds like an excellent situation to me!”
My parents thought we moved to Iowa when we moved west from the city about 20 years ago, but the developments have just kept spreading. So now I guess we worry about the townsfolk around us. We were “in the country” when we moved here. Everything has built up around us.


3,920 posted on 03/06/2009 3:29:15 PM PST by Marmolade
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