Posted on 02/18/2009 8:16:22 PM PST by goose the rio
You all were so helpful with a question on seeds the other day that I have another one for you. Preparing for the most basic needs of a SHTF scenario, I have a wonderful shotgun and .22. As far as adding a high power rifle goes, I know what I'd LIKE to have but that's another story. Is there a consensus on a quality-made, affordable rifle, and what should I expect to pay? Would it be a bad idea to buy from a pawn shop?
For those of you who seem to like to "notice" these things, yes, it's my second post ever on FR. Doesn't make me evil. Thanks.
Someone else mentioned the Savage bolt-actions - those are very highly regarded. Good prices, too. If you're more inclined toward a milsurp rifle, look into the Yugoslavian M48 Mausers. Those were actually built after WWII on German tooling. Check Shotgun News for vendors. You might also find a good deal on a "Russian capture" Mauser 98k, though you'll spend a while scrubbing off the thick layer of cosmoline.
So, it depends very much of your tastes. Tell us more and we'll go from there.
Check our Accuracy Systems for that re-barrel project.
Ronaldus Magnus answered your original question best as to “Best high power rifle for least money?”.
Need suppressive fire?
Arsenal SA M-7 (Made in USA) parts milled not stamped
Caliber: 7.62 x 39 mm
Total Length: 943 mm
Barrel Length: 415 mm
Weight without Magazine: 3.68 kg
Muzzle Velocity: 710 m/s
Rate of Fire (practical): 40 rds/min
Twist Rate: 1 in 240 mm
Effective Range: 400 m
Max Effective Range: 1350 m
You need to log the firearm's serial number, seller, importer (if of foreign manufacture), caliber and type (rifle or handgun) into your C&R log within 24 hours of receiving the firearm from your shipper. That's it.
At some point, you may have to show your C&R firearms and log book to an ATF agent - The ATF seems to have quite a bit of extra time on its hands right now, so "audits" of C&R collectors are not unheard of. As someone who has been recently "audited", I can assure you that it's no big deal.
ETA: If the seller also has a C&R license (and the firearm is C&R eligible), he is required to keep essentially the same info his his logbook.
I have an SMLE that I really love. Hits hard and is surprisingly accurate for an iron sighted gun almost a hundred years old. My granddad was in the British Army and carried one in the trenches at Passchendaele.
-ccm
That’s the catch - I had forgotten about the logbook.
Passchendaele had trenches?
The stories I read about it seemed to concentrate on the swampy, mirey, impenetrable muck.
All of the above.
Soldiers drowned in the muddy water at the trench bottoms after wounds that would otherwise be survivable.
Much of this depends on what the writer will do with it. Just as a general gun I would stick with .223 merely for all around long shots and ammo is everywhere.
Good point.
When I was a young 2LT I was sent to the extension course held at my post for training as the company NBC Officer that's Nuclear, Biological & Chemical Warfare. I questioned the wisdom of only issuing a single atropine injector when three might be the required treatment. The patient response of the NCO conducting training was chilling:
Sir, in the event of a real chemical attack, there will be lots of injectors laying around unused. Their owners won't care if you take them. In fact they won't care about anything ever again....
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How about an Enfield 2B in .308?
Squantos speaks highly of them.
Is the second rifle something out of Knight’s Armament?
I also have the right to burn money in my bar-b-que pit, but it makes about as much sense as that rifle.
Living in the Socialist’s black hole of NYC, I’d already have a local target on my head with a C&R license. Nevermind state and federal coming after me when the SHTF.
Not exactly anonymous on here, but still, at least I could walk into a Brooklyn gun shop and say “two bricks of Russian seven-six-two.”
Why would someone question another persons wants? This makes a lot more sense than a lot of crap my friends buy.
Practical rate-of-fire is only 40 rounds a minute?
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