Posted on 07/26/2009 5:07:16 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
Researching the Obama birth certificate conspiracy has yielded many theories and wild speculations. Despite the likelihood that most of them are without merit, the one haunting theme i: what is Obama hiding? The forged birth certificate that appeared on Obama’s campaign site has spawned new curiosities, theories and demands to know where in the world is Barack Obama’s birth certificate. Is it in Kenya, Hawaii, Chicago, and Indonesia?
We believe the Certification of Live Birth is authentic, but that is not that part where it gets tricky with parsing of words and comparing apples to oranges. The document provided by the Obama campaign to Factcheck.org, which Obama has ties to, has nagging issues. First of all, the document presented is technically inferior, and people want to see the vault or long form. See an example of a real long form Certificate of Live Birth. Its shades of Bill Clinton and what the definition of what “is” is and this is where the unhinged pundits of Obama can’t seem to distinguish the difference. What Americans want to see is the above and they were given a document that does not have enough information and simply conveys that a Certificate of Live Birth exists. Below is a side-by-side image of what people are asking for and what they got. Fact: Obama released a Certification of Live Birth but failed to provide the requested Certificate of Live Birth. This political maneuver is known as the Dodd-Dodge.
The Kindergarten Conspiracy is simply that Obama's Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the State of Hawaii Department of Education. See the above link to where local paper reports the lost records. The important feature of this conspiracy is that Kindergarten records would have contained the following: 1. Obama's REAL Birth Certificate. 2. An application with the following: • His Legal name. • Parents or Legal Guardians’ names. • Date of Birth • Place of Birth • Vaccination Records
Conspiracy theorists contend that the loss of records is important for two additional reasons. The Department of Education does not "lose" the records of one particular student. Breeding the claim, who paid whom what sum to make this record disappear? Finally the loss prevents the release of shamefully low test scores, embarrassing Equal Opportunity advancements, and trails of fraudulent funding to hide that could possibly "excuse" the quashing of public school Kindergarten entry records. Adding to the fuel is the fact that for the rest of his life he attended very expensive private schools and has had his records legally sealed to deny the public his true life story.
School in JakartaThe Kindergarten twins (Nordyke) conspiracy spun off from the “lost” kindergarten records. The question is why the Nordyke twin’s, who were born a few hours after Obama, announcement was missing from the newspaper. The theory is that they were removed so Obama’s could be inserted. A possible explanation is that since the father was a physician of some note the girls’ birth announcement was in the announced in a separate article. The mother of twin’s recalls nothing of significance while she was in the hospital and can neither confirm or deny Obama and his mother were there.
The Jakarta plot begins with Obama’s stepfather (Lolo Soetero) taking the family to Jakarta, Indonesia and enrolled him in a Catholic school (Fransiskus Assisi) as Barry Soetoro as seen on the only document that exists in the public from any of Obama’s schools. It was not released by Obama but obtained by an investigative reporter.
This document bred a whole new series of heories that Obama was adopted by Soetero and Obama became a citizen on Indonesia. Under Indonesian law, Obama could not hold dual citizenship. But U.S. law would still recognize Obama as an American citizen. This led to theory that Obama traveled to Pakistan in college under an Indonesia passport. In the early 1980’s, it was very difficult to enter Pakistan under a U.S. passport.
The Barry Soetero issue exploded into theories that Obama’s real name was Barry Soetero and he attended U.S. colleges under that name and as an Indonesian national. The fact that all of Obama’s school records are sealed flamed the conspiracy fire. It was not clear whether Soetoro adopted Obama, either in Hawaii or in Indonesia, but there is strong circumstantial evidence that he did as far as Indonesian law was concerned. The facts are that in Indonesia, which was under tight rule in 1967, Obama clearly took on the last name of his stepfather in school registration documents. All Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards, or Karty Tanda Pendudaks, which needed to bear the student's legal name, which should be matched in public school registration filings. According to Indonesian legal experts, it was difficult to enroll non-Indonesian citizens in public schooling.
It was the scrutiny of Obama’s Indonesia chapter that fueled the fires that Obama was a Muslim, received Muslim teachings in school and attended a Mosque regularly with Lolo Soetero. However, it was the Pakistan trip revelation that raised a few eyebrows. Obama last April disclosed he traveled as a college student to Pakistan in 1981. "I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college – I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee," Obama reportedly stated at a fundraising event. Obama had not previously disclosed any trip to Pakistan, either in his books or in a multitude of policy talks regarding Pakistan.
Obama’s disclosure prompted ABC News to contact the presidential candidate's campaign, which confirmed that in 1981, the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University, Barack visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. Obama then went on to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from that country, the campaign said. Further, it was disclosed that Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, said the campaign, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.
Pakistan in 1981 was under military rule. It was difficult for U.S. citizens to travel to the country without assistance. It would have been easier for someone to enter Pakistan on an Indonesian passport. If Obama indeed possessed Indonesian citizenship as a child, it is unlikely he retains such citizenship. This has never been disclosed or discussed by the Obama campaign. This posed the question about Obama's registration in Indonesia under the name "Barry Soetoro" also raises questions as to whether he adopted that name in the U.S. at any time. According to Illinois state filings, when Obama registered as an attorney in 1991, under the name Barack Obama, he attested to never using any other names or aliases.
Most of the conspiracies may seem petty and insignificant, but it does indicate that Obama has not been transparent or honest with the American people or the fact he could easily put this to rest but elects not to. Remember, this is the man that said he attended a church for twenty years and never listened to a sermon.
In Part 3, we’ll discuss the Sarah Obama interview and Mombasa hospital who claims to have medical records on Obama and his mother but have been classified by the state. Then there is the Michelle Obama interview with API, and API attempting to sell to Fox News the exclusive recordings and copies Obama’s birth documents.
” I was told to move on and attack him on the issues “
I got the same reaction, but I always asserted not wanting to show his birth certificate was a legitimate issue...and we can do both at the same time. Turns out it’s more fun too.
The "CertifiCATION of LIVE BIRTH" is just a paper that says that Obama is ALIVE and was BORN.
Didn’t Bammy just get a PASSPORT when he was elected to the SENATE????
Yes, and to add to that- Per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born American citizen to serve as President. Barack Obama is NOT eligible for the Presidency because he is not a natural born citizen. John A. Bingham, primary framer, 14th Amendment, states- “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” Obama himself has stated that he is the son of a Kenyan- a foreign sovereignty. Thus, Obama is not a natural born citizen even if he were actually born in Hawaii.
See my message here- message #2.
You wrote-
“Please simply ask our president “Why, Sir, do you believe there is such controversy about your citizenship and public education records?””
Yes, also- Per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born American citizen to serve as President. Barack Obama is NOT eligible for the Presidency because he is not a natural born citizen. John A. Bingham, primary framer, 14th Amendment, states- “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” Obama himself has stated that he is the son of a Kenyan- a foreign sovereignty. Thus, Obama is not a natural born citizen even if he were actually born in Hawaii.
The latest news supposedly from Hawaii: all original documents were destroyed, we only have electronic form is BULLSHIT.
Get someone from Hawaii to go get their ORIGINAL LONG FORM. Do they only get a “Certification of Live Birth” or a Long form birth certificate??? Please find out to debunk this obvious bullshit by CNN.
I wish to thank Lou Dobbs for his coverage of the Obama Birth Certificate Issue. It is distressing to me that there has otherwise been so little coverage of President Obama's obscured past. Lou Dobbs is to be commended for getting the ball rolling here.ML/NJ
In his book, Obama describes going through his grandmother’s belongings and finding his birth certificate. One does exist....
Even then, Per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born American citizen to serve as President. Barack Obama is NOT eligible for the Presidency because he is not a natural born citizen. John A. Bingham, primary framer, 14th Amendment, states- “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” Obama himself has stated that he is the son of a Kenyan- Kenya being a foreign sovereignty. Thus, Obama is not a natural born citizen even if he were actually born in Hawaii.
This is not going away!
No amount of logic or proportion will make the issue of Barry’s eligibility go away.
Hopefully Judge Carter in California will call the usurper’s bluff. Let’s see ALL documents by god! The judge can redact information irrelevent to the question: Barry, Are you eligible? If you are not eligible then you have at least 2 counts of Purgery (State of Virginia and State of Arizona) plus the almost Trillion Dollars raised under false pretense...I’d say you will spend quite a bit of time in retirement from your current job in a Federal Peneteniary.
Look how the birther movement has progressed. Now look at this quote from Ghandi obtained from “TheObamaFile.com:”
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Mahatma Gandhi
The Usurper CANNOT defend himself. He will lose and the AMerican people, black, white, republican, democrat will win. Then we need to start getting rid of the multitude of corrupt judges, senators, representatives who have given this usurper a lame free pass.
It's what makes them good at their jobs (those who are good at their job, anyway). I don't pretend to know all of Farah's sources, but I do know that they are formidable just from his body of work.
Neither is it likely that there are NO conservatives working in INS who are very upset with Obama, and more than willing to anonymously release some info that might help sink his demented Ship of State.
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Right on!
You wrote-
“Hopefully Judge Carter in California will call the usurper’s bluff. Let’s see ALL documents by god! The judge can redact information irrelevent to the question: Barry, Are you eligible? If you are not eligible then you have at least 2 counts of Purgery (State of Virginia and State of Arizona) plus the almost Trillion Dollars raised under false pretense...I’d say you will spend quite a bit of time in retirement from your current job in a Federal Peneteniary.”
Good article, but why the last statement “Most of the conspiracies may seem petty and insignificant”?
Which of the theories seem petty and insignificant and why?
Answering you, there are many very solid questions regarding Obama’s natural born citizen status. I don’t know why the author added that last sentence.
Keep in mind that per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born American citizen to serve as President. Barack Obama is NOT eligible for the Presidency because he is not a natural born citizen. John A. Bingham, primary framer, 14th Amendment, states- “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” Obama himself has stated that he is the son of a Kenyan- Kenya being a foreign sovereignty. Thus, Obama is not a natural born citizen even if he were actually born in Hawaii.
How convenient -- no other student's records are missing -- only Obama's.
Hey!
People are trying to organize a NATIONAL STRIKE DAY. If you want to demonstrate to everyone around you that you have a right to know whether we do or do not have a USURPER as president, then do not work on a certain day!!! If that doesn’t work, then we do it again as necessary. Damn nation, we the people have a right to KNOW. Don’t let the weasels in Congress think they can get away with this shit. Congress has eroded our constitution since the 14th amendment but the buck stops here with a simple question of one of the three qualifications to be president of the united states.
See:
http://uploading.com/files/301BCDTV/DownArchive.info.LL-LtPEC.part25.rar.html
How much did that cost Obama? He has to be running low on money!
You wrote-
“How convenient — no other student’s records are missing — only Obama’s.”
Don't know if this has been debunked or not. Columbia ?
It's a quick read.
Not even the exact same majors as Obama at Columbia ever heard of him. No remembrances, no pictures, no 'nothing'.
“The question is why the Nordyke twin’s, who were born a few hours after Obama, announcement was missing from the newspaper. The theory is that they were removed so Obama’s could be inserted.”
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(Thanks, rpa.)
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