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Debra Medina, Glen Beck and the Northwoods Truthers
The Futue of Freedom Foundation ^ | February 12, 2010 | Jacob G. Hornberger

Posted on 02/19/2010 6:42:37 AM PST by Robert Drobot

In an obvious ambush of Texas Republican gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina, Fox News commentator Glen Beck told Medina in a radio interview that he had received emails from listeners saying that she was a 9/11 truther, that is, a person who believes that the U.S. government was behind the 9/11 attacks.

Medina failed to specifically deny the charge, indicated that she didn’t have an opinion on the matter, stated that some good questions had been raised about the issue, and said that the American people had not seen all the evidence. Medina later issued a statement stating that she has never been involved in the 9/11 truth movement and affirming her conviction that the U.S. government was not behind the 9/11 attacks.

After the interview was over, Beck and his on-air cohorts began yucking it up, scratching off any prospects for Medina, who has recently soared from 4 percent in the polls to 24 percent, to win the race. “Wow!” Beck exclaimed, “The fastest way back to four percent. I think I can write her off the list.”

Beck’s mindset was precisely the type of mindset that I described in my September 17, 2009, article “Operation Northwoods and the 9/11 Truthers.” That article addressed the mindset of Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer regarding the 9/11 truthers, a mindset that is clearly the same as Beck’s.

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TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: ambush; conspiracy; cuespookymusic; lessmescalineplease; medina; morethorazineplease; northwoods; paulestinians; spottheloony; troofers; truther; truthers
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To: Quickgun

he’d HAVE a big problem with it...oops


41 posted on 02/19/2010 7:23:14 AM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: Robert Drobot

Whether he is or not, it’s obvious nothing will be done about it.
Why beat your head against a wall about it?
The effort is best spent elsewhere.


42 posted on 02/19/2010 7:23:16 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: AAABEST

You have papers? Good morning old friend.


43 posted on 02/19/2010 7:23:22 AM PST by Robert Drobot (Qui non intelligit aut discat aut taceat)
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To: Robert Drobot
Then perhaps you'll better appreciate how the US being behind the attacks IS entirely plausible

So you out yourself as a truther as well. No wonder you are so willing to back Medina on this, you're as nutty as she is.

44 posted on 02/19/2010 7:24:08 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Robert Drobot
In an obvious ambush of Texas Republican gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina

Ambush, oh please... it was a legitimate question and she repeated the same line (actually making it worse) in a couple more interviews that week. There are reports from people who attended church with her that not only does she say this crap all the time, but she sends out truther emails often (some of these may be coming out in the next week or so before the primary).

45 posted on 02/19/2010 7:24:55 AM PST by mnehring
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To: humblegunner

Damn the Constitution, full speed ahead ???


46 posted on 02/19/2010 7:25:06 AM PST by Robert Drobot (Qui non intelligit aut discat aut taceat)
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To: humblegunner; Eaker
Over here. We have a sighting of one of those rare Yellow Bellied Truther Birds. Spring must have arrived.


47 posted on 02/19/2010 7:26:37 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Sloth

It is also interesting to note that his choices allow for (1) unconvinced of government involvement, (2) convinced of government involvement, (3) no opinion and (4) oblivious to evidence.

Aside from the “fingers-in-the-ears” choice — he does not allow for the possibility of being convinced that the government was not involved ... i.e. being convinced that the truthers are wrong/ idiotic. He allows us to be unconvinced that they are right — but, apparently, in order to avoid being thrust into the dreaded and unreasonable “Category 4”, we must keep open the option of being convinced sometime in the future

Whack-job.

SnakeDoc


48 posted on 02/19/2010 7:28:14 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (I am Jack's smirking revenge.)
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To: Robert Drobot
*** Will the real Glen Beck please stand. ***

The real Glenn Beck has stood up.

It's Medina who needs to stand. I heard her answer to a very simple question. She is either a nut-bag 9-11 Truther herself, or was afraid to give an answer that would offend any 9-11 Truthers

The fact of the matter is that ALL 9-11 Truthers are out of their friggen minds. Or, are just plain STOO-PID. Or, like Rosie O'Fatso, just hate America.

I don't have the time nor patience to give lessons in Engineering, Physics, or Construction of buildings & its materials, especially Hi-Rises, to a bunch of Moonbats. But to think the US Government, or those evil Jooooooz did it on purpose, or even raise the possibility of them doing it (as Medina did with her non answer-answer) is indication #1 of a very mentally ill person who has a serious psychotic disorder.(see Rosie O'Fatso above)

The ONLY organization in the world that can pull off any large murder 'conspiracy' and keep it secret is the Mafia, not the US gubmint. And the Mafia blows up cars not 100 story buildings. Hell, if someone high up at the CIA or DoD farts in the wrong direction the NY Times or WaPo knows about it within minutes.

49 posted on 02/19/2010 7:28:53 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: Robert Drobot
You have papers? Good morning old friend.

Old friend is right bud :)

50 posted on 02/19/2010 7:29:10 AM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Robert Drobot

Wikipedia is hardly an authoritative source on something like that.

For it to be plausible that the US was behind the attacks you need to come up with an explanation of a benefit to be gained that justifies the attempted murder of 50,000 or 100,000 people and billions of dollars of property damage.


51 posted on 02/19/2010 7:31:50 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mnehring

but she sends out truther emails often (some of these may be coming out in the next week or so before the primary).


If any that you see get posted on FR and you think about it please ping to one. I’d love to see her rants on this issue when she’s not in the spotlight but doing this at her on pace.

With only 10 days left until the voting is complete they need to be released if they are to have much impact, imo.


52 posted on 02/19/2010 7:32:18 AM PST by deport (TEXAS PRIMARY -- EARLY V OTING BEGAN FEB. 16, 2010)
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To: AAABEST
Beck is morphing from a hard-working investigator (who regularly brought valuable info to the table) into a self-important douchebag who is under some delusion that everyone can't wait to hear his confused opinions on everything.

I fully agree. While he's done some decent work in the past, something's gone awry with him. Mark Levin, whom I trust as a clear concise thinker and has sound judgement, saw this coming months ago.

53 posted on 02/19/2010 7:35:10 AM PST by riri (Resistance-It's the New Black)
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To: hennie pennie

Why did you ping your response to Jim Robinson? Trying to get him to ban any discussion of Glenn Beck?

Who are you trying to impress with your screwy capitalization of “DrY DrunK”, and what’s the point?

Glenn Beck is no fan of RINOs and has shown no sign of wanting to marginalize conservatives.

“Stark raving NUTS” ... thou doth protest a little too much - perhaps it’s You that’s “stark raving nuts”.


54 posted on 02/19/2010 7:36:12 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: hennie pennie

I always thought that Glen Beck was a clown, however, Beck is not the issue here, Medina is. Beck could have been wearing Bozo make-up and clown shoes and it wouldn’t change Medina’s answer.


55 posted on 02/19/2010 7:37:35 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Condor51
Glenn Beck - Greatest American Hero
56 posted on 02/19/2010 7:38:18 AM PST by davidlachnicht ("IF WE ARE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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To: Robert Drobot
More like this:


57 posted on 02/19/2010 7:40:02 AM PST by mentor2k
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To: Robert Drobot

Northwoods is just another of many thousands of similar plans, called Military Operations Plans. The military takes just about any hypothetical situation and develops a MOP for it. We have MOPs for the invasions of England, Mexico, Canada, our own states, etc..you name it. If a situation can be conceived, there’s likely a MOP to address it. It would be criminal to not plan, and think, and ask “what if” and work out contingencies. Just because we have these MOPs doesn’t mean that they would ever be used.

The media likes to “discover” these plans and use them as proof that our military is out of control. Or in this case, that our government can’t be trusted. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Regarding Medina, I was dismayed that she couldn’t give a straight answer to the Truther question - a legitimate question. Beck gave her plenty of opportunity to disavow the truthers but she wouldn’t do it. Only later after she realised the mistake did she issue a statement. I went onto her Facebook page and posted that I liked some of her positions, but that she really messed up with the truther issue. This brought the real Medina-supporting truthers out of the closet, one even sent me a link to a truther website and suggested that I become “educated”, and others ask “whats wrong with being a truther?”. So, even if she’s not a truther, she’s surrounded by them.

Beck was right: “fastest way back to 4%”.


58 posted on 02/19/2010 7:43:43 AM PST by PBinTX
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To: hennie pennie

Can you prove any of that?


59 posted on 02/19/2010 7:44:04 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: riri
I fully agree. While he's done some decent work in the past, something's gone awry with him.

Yes there is something - something being the keyword.

What that "something" is can only be guessed at. Who knows - an external vector of some sort, an offer he couldn't refuse, a vulnerability exploited by some 3rd party, personal demons becoming manifest, delusions of self-importance - whatever.

Whatever that "something" is, it's not good.

60 posted on 02/19/2010 7:45:05 AM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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