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Neanderthal: New Images of an Ancient Enemy
http://www.themandus.org ^ | Vendramini

Posted on 03/18/2012 5:24:33 PM PDT by varmintman

Danny Venderamini's main site.

Vendramini thesis on Youtube.

All Neanderthal images here courtesy of www.themandus.org

This thing starts off with Danny Vendramini figuring out something which should have been figured out 100 years ago i.e.. that (other than for the larger brain area) a Neanderthal skull is a near perfect match for ape profiles and a very bad match for one of ours:

That is consistent with what we know about Neanderthal DNA i.e. that it's no closer to ours than to an ape's. The funny thing is that Vendramini did not tell his artist to produce the world's scariest monster, the basic order was to start with Neanderthal skulls and skeletal bones and try to flesh them out using the assumption that what you had was a bipedal, carniverous ape with an 8" fur coat (like every other ice-age animal) and the big eyes which Neanderthal eye sockets suggest for nocturnal hunting, and possibly a slightly mean look on the thing's face. The fact that what turns up looks as bad as it does to us is probably, as Vendramini suggests, due to past bad experiences with it, sort of like the instinctive human reaction to spiders and snakes:

neanderprofile, hairy ape with fur

The 8" fur coat also explains why no Neanderthal needles have ever been found...

Without the fur coat:

neanderthal 4

Neanderthal 3

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neanderthal1

Given the recent human population bottleneck, there is no way to believe that any modern human is related to this creature in any way other than for the possible re-use of low-level genetic components by an original designer or designers (the bottleneck says that if any human had any of this guy's genes we all would, not just Caucasians and East Asians), and likewise there is zero way to believe that any modern humans ever interbred with something like that. The image of the Neanderthal in popular culture and science turns out to be rubbish.

This thing was wiped out in some sort of a stone age world war and whoever wiped it out did the world a giant favor. Other than that, Danny Vendramini subscribes to a variant of the Gould/Eldredge flavor of evolutionism, nonetheless the scholarship involved in reconstructing what Neanderthals actually amounted to does not suffer from that.


TOPICS: Education; History; Science; Weird Stuff
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1 posted on 03/18/2012 5:24:40 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

You can still find these guys at any union meeting.


2 posted on 03/18/2012 5:28:16 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Farmer Dean

That may be part of the reason for the popular myth, which says we’re all really just the same, and speaks of some sort of a happy, idyllic prehistoric period in which Gaea-worshiping matriarchal societies dominated a happier planet.....


3 posted on 03/18/2012 5:31:16 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

Not quite Barbara Bach in a fur bikini now is it? I’ll keep my inmage of what cave people looked like, you all can keep yours.


4 posted on 03/18/2012 5:31:55 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

Cave PEOPLE are one thing, the Neanderthal was a cave ape. Cro Magnons did in fact look better than that.


5 posted on 03/18/2012 5:33:56 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: NavyCanDo

6 posted on 03/18/2012 5:35:24 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: NavyCanDo
Same here.


7 posted on 03/18/2012 5:36:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: varmintman; SunkenCiv
When I see these pictures, something primorideal in me screams. It's like, my genetic structure knows this species, knows they are very dangerous, and wants to kill them or flee.

Based on my guys turning inside out the minute I see these pictures, I have a hunch this guy's art is accurate to what the species actually looked like.

8 posted on 03/18/2012 5:36:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: EEGator

There’s a hint of tan line... she must have had a different fur bikini for the colder temperatures in early spring.


9 posted on 03/18/2012 5:41:22 PM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: Lazamataz
That's what Vendramini says i.e. that people see those images and just about have heart attacks. There's a Kindle version of Vendramini's book on Amazon for around $10 and there's at least one non evolutionist interpretation of the data available. Weird, but non evolutionist...
10 posted on 03/18/2012 5:46:39 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Lazamataz

Apes and humans are completely different species and the Neantherdal skulls are definitely more apelike.

Assuming he’s correct, I wouldn’t mind seeing his work on Cro-magnan skulls to see what they look like without anthropomorphism.


11 posted on 03/18/2012 5:47:05 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Lazamataz

I agree Laz, in spite of Nat’l Geographic’s pictorial presentations that tried to make them look much like us, I have always felt that this is what they really looked like.


12 posted on 03/18/2012 5:47:16 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

I’d hope she would tan nude.


13 posted on 03/18/2012 5:48:49 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: varmintman
There are some old pictures of what they thought Neanderthals looked like about 100 years ago which were much like these. Could big foot be their cousin?
14 posted on 03/18/2012 5:48:59 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: varmintman
I used to follow these arguments in Scientific America until the magazine became so horiibly biased towards anthropogenic global warming as to be unreadable.

The bias in favor of the "out of Africa", "we are all brother" hypothesis made me conclude that it was undoubtedly a load of Cro-Magnon crap.

15 posted on 03/18/2012 5:51:24 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: Lazamataz
The Neanderthals were just another "race" like blacks, whites, etc. They were a bit shorter, stockier, more well muscled, and had essentially the same brain.

The Cro-Magnons, frequently identified as ancestral to the Europeans and Chinese, had a larger brain than modern man, and were a tad taller ~ probably from a better diet based on wild game, nuts, berries and roots.

During the last quarter of the latest period of glacial advance most European, North Asian and East Asian populations were confined to small unglaciated areas called "refugia". Modern populations are descended from these small groups ~ each is differentiated by various minor gene differences.

The Sa'ami seem to have retained many more of the specific differences that identify the Cro-Magnon people and to a degree may better represent the ancestral population of most of the people in the world.

There have been some changes. Southern tribes gave up living on ice and hunting reindeer and seals. They developed agriculture and animal domestication which changed their diet to the far more unhealthy one of bread and boiled beef. This has led to other, less valuable, genetic differentiation.

16 posted on 03/18/2012 5:51:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mountainlion

No. If anything like that were still around, it would be really obvious from all the remains of deer and farm animals lying around.


17 posted on 03/18/2012 5:53:34 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: mountainlion

I admit looking at it is unsettling.


18 posted on 03/18/2012 5:55:12 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Lazamataz
When I see these pictures, something primorideal in me screams.

Oh. You'd hit it? That's a surprise. Not.

19 posted on 03/18/2012 5:55:32 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1153 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Jonty30
For all practical purposes you have a Cro-Magnon skull, except it's a bit smaller than required for the heavy lifting.

There are racial differences in hat size. White folks, in general, don't have the biggest hat sizes BTW.

20 posted on 03/18/2012 5:56:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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