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How the Chicken Conquered the World: The epic begins 10,000 years ago in an Asian jungle...
Smithsonian magazine ^ | June 2012 | Jerry Adler and Andrew Lawler

Posted on 06/18/2012 7:06:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The chickens that saved Western civilization were discovered, according to legend, by the side of a road in Greece in the first decade of the fifth century B.C. The Athenian general Themistocles, on his way to confront the invading Persian forces, stopped to watch two cocks fighting and summoned his troops, saying: "Behold, these do not fight for their household gods, for the monuments of their ancestors, for glory, for liberty or the safety of their children, but only because one will not give way to the other." The tale does not describe what happened to the loser, nor explain why the soldiers found this display of instinctive aggression inspirational rather than pointless and depressing. But history records that the Greeks, thus heartened, went on to repel the invaders, preserving the civilization that today honors those same creatures by breading, frying and dipping them into one's choice of sauce...

Chicken is the ubiquitous food of our era, crossing multiple cultural boundaries with ease. With its mild taste and uniform texture, chicken presents an intriguingly blank canvas for the flavor palette of almost any cuisine. A generation of Britons is coming of age in the belief that chicken tikka masala is the national dish, and the same thing is happening in China with Kentucky Fried Chicken. Long after the time when most families had a few hens running around the yard that could be grabbed and turned into dinner, chicken remains a nostalgic, evocative dish for most Americans. When author Jack Canfield was looking for a metaphor for psychological comfort, he didn't call it "Clam Chowder for the Soul."

(Excerpt) Read more at smithsonianmag.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: chicken; dietandcuisine; godsgravesglyphs; poultry

Full subtitle: "The epic begins 10,000 years ago in an Asian jungle and ends today in kitchens all over the world".
Chicken reigns in the 21st century. [illus. by Tim O'Brien]

How the Chicken Conquered the World

1 posted on 06/18/2012 7:06:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Still no word on which came first, apparently...

2 posted on 06/18/2012 7:11:03 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Skevos did well when he decided to stew that old bird up.


3 posted on 06/18/2012 7:13:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SunkenCiv
Roma (gypsies) traditionally carried a cage of chickens with them under their wagons. It was of every type of chicken ~ black, brown, striped, gold, white ~ so that a 'stolen chicken' could not be readily differentiated from one they'd raised themselves.

Plus, they could always sell a chicken for cash money as the need arose.

When I was quite young I bought a bantum rooster and his brown hen from a gypsy in the community. He could fight like nobody's business.

4 posted on 06/18/2012 7:16:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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The ultimate evolution of the Chicken as a species:

http://www.stroudsrestaurant.com/menu.html

Mark


5 posted on 06/18/2012 7:17:38 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

Just don’t try pan frying old roosters.


6 posted on 06/18/2012 7:23:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: muawiyah

My father’s father used to lock all his animals in the barn when they heard the gypsies were in the area in MN. My dad remembers the commotion when he was a little boy. The animals would disappear if they weren’t locked up. (At least, that is what my father said). It was during the Great Depression and Dad said no one stole or went hungry out on the farms. Then, he amended the statement-—and said there was stealing, but only if the gypsies were traveling through.

Stereotypes exist for a reason. Gypsies didn’t believe in private property rights.


7 posted on 06/18/2012 7:25:47 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: SunkenCiv

Tastes like chicken.


8 posted on 06/18/2012 7:27:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SunkenCiv

its whats for dinner. I remember back to when I got to go and catch a chicken and place it in the funnel....then bleed it out and pluck it with grandma. Yummy! Then it was off the fetch some squirrels and maybe some dove and it wasnt long before we had dinner. Rabbit was excellent when grandma deep fried it as well. Something about lard and butter that made everything she made, better.


9 posted on 06/18/2012 7:29:23 PM PDT by Michigan Bowhunter
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To: SunkenCiv

10 posted on 06/18/2012 7:29:44 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: savagesusie
Turns out they believe in their OWN private property rights. The literature regarding the traditional gypsy scams suggests they had no pity on anyone who let greed enable them to steal his stuff.

With the arrival of WWII most Roma in America went to California and other West Coast locations to do light metal work ~ mostly in the aircraft industry.

They've subsequently lost their 'culture'. Nothing like regular, steady employment to put an end to life on the road.

There's an entirely different group ~ the Travelers ~ who are not Roma. They are not ethnically the same, but a handful of Roma did enter UK at about the same time the Enclosure laws were putting tens of thousands of Irish and Scottish tenant farmers on the road.

Those Roma quickly expanded their reach into UK society and pocketbooks by "hiring on" native Irish and Scottish people.

Those are the folks your father feared in Minnesota.

11 posted on 06/18/2012 7:32:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Michigan Bowhunter

Lard makes anything better.


12 posted on 06/18/2012 7:36:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: presidio9; mylife; muawiyah; MarkL; savagesusie; Moonman62; Michigan Bowhunter; JoeProBono

Thanks!


13 posted on 06/18/2012 7:37:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting article.

Click on the photo at the link for the full picture.


14 posted on 06/18/2012 7:38:11 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: muawiyah

The travelers where Irish


15 posted on 06/18/2012 7:38:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SunkenCiv
Everybody loves chicken!


16 posted on 06/18/2012 7:41:24 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


17 posted on 06/18/2012 7:41:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
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18 posted on 06/18/2012 7:45:00 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: savagesusie
Gypsies didn’t believe in private property rights.

Sure they did. It is just they only believed in Gypsy property rights.

It is a rather common view point.

19 posted on 06/18/2012 7:49:08 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Migrating elephant herds react badly to flaming motor homes and dry ice doesn't repel killer bees)
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To: SunkenCiv

20 posted on 06/18/2012 7:49:44 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: muawiyah

Interesting. Thanks.


21 posted on 06/18/2012 7:52:01 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: presidio9
As good as Chicken is, the eggs can be glorious.
The Ameraucana produces a delicious egg


22 posted on 06/18/2012 7:56:49 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Here in NYC, I usually settle for Eggland’s Best, unless I feel like paying $1 per egg.


23 posted on 06/18/2012 8:02:16 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I read an article about the prisons in Romania years ago, which didn’t represent the population at large-—the gypsies were the largest group incarcerated—much larger amount than percentage in the population. The article attributed it to their lack of respect for other people’s personal property. :)

That is the only thing I have really ever read about “gypsies” other than in books, like Hugo’s Esmerelda.


24 posted on 06/18/2012 8:07:34 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: mylife
The best known crowd of Irish Travelers in the US are the Murphy clan. The best known crowd of Scottish Travelers in the US are the Williams/Williamson clan.

Both clans are highly integrated these days. Very diverse group. They can show up at a major store and loot it right under the cameras and you'll never catch any of them.

25 posted on 06/18/2012 8:08:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: presidio9

I rarely get Ameraucana’s and I never get them in a store.

Fantastic egg! The yolk is deep orange red, the white isn’t thin like water.

Excellent flavor.


26 posted on 06/18/2012 8:09:09 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: muawiyah

Aint none of them my kin!


27 posted on 06/18/2012 8:10:29 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Cicero
Chicken joke

28 posted on 06/18/2012 8:26:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: presidio9

Obviously that chick is a pedophile.


29 posted on 06/18/2012 8:28:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Chicken is the new steak around here. :)


30 posted on 06/18/2012 8:46:09 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: mylife
Lard makes anything better

especially my piecrust

31 posted on 06/18/2012 8:51:29 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fair the light that softly lies -- [Ken ye this tune??])
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To: SunkenCiv

Ace’s older sister Janie raises a few for eggs. They live just far enough out of Grand Rapids, MI to have them legally.


32 posted on 06/18/2012 8:56:46 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (Reagan Contra; in-country off the USS Racine.)
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To: imardmd1

Damn skippy!

Lard rocks in pie crusts.


33 posted on 06/18/2012 9:00:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SunkenCiv

If chickens were native to Polynesia and found their way to Greece that means there was trade during ancient Greece times.


34 posted on 06/18/2012 9:08:40 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: SunkenCiv

“The tale does not ... explain why the soldiers found this display of instinctive aggression inspirational rather than pointless and depressing.”

It doesn’t need to, since it’s self-evident. They found it inspirational because they needed the inspiration. It’s the same reason why we don’t critically examine the flawed logic or analogies in locker room halftime speeches. We need inspiration, someone is willing to provide it, so we suspend our disbelief. After the need has passed and the inspiration has served its purpose, we can comfortably look back, like this writer, and say “wait a second, that doesn’t quite make sense...”.


35 posted on 06/18/2012 10:21:54 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: savagesusie

Just do an internet search for: Bimbo gypsy clan, and you can find plenty of reading about modern gypsies in America. They’re not too common, but they are around. We had family of them living down the block from us for a while when I was a kid.

Their children were not allowed to talk with or play with the other neighborhood kids, and they did not go to school. The kids would be out every day, on the corner at the intersection of the busy street, selling candy bars like they were for some school fundraiser. Except, the only fundraiser was for the gypsies; the parents bought the candy wholesale and used the profits from the kids’ labor to pay their living expenses. Nobody in the family held a regular job, they just ran scams and collected welfare.


36 posted on 06/18/2012 10:40:27 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Barry Fell thought there was a connection between Polynesia and ancient Greece.


37 posted on 06/19/2012 3:29:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
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38 posted on 06/19/2012 3:29:25 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Ace's Dad

Sounds like a tasty idea, I’ll have to consider doing that too.


39 posted on 06/19/2012 3:30:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mylife

Thanks mylife!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameraucana
http://www.google.com/images?q=Ameraucana&sa=X&oi=image_result_group


40 posted on 06/19/2012 3:32:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Boogieman

/bingo


41 posted on 06/19/2012 4:12:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
How the Chicken Conquered the World


42 posted on 06/19/2012 4:39:42 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: SunkenCiv
The ever popular General Tso's Chicken
43 posted on 06/19/2012 9:02:27 AM PDT by Hardslab
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