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Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Life Site News ^ | 1-10-13 | Hilary White

Posted on 01/11/2013 5:39:57 PM PST by ReformationFan

Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center.

Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997. The number of young adult men saying the same thing dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent in the same time.

Pew’s findings have caught the attention of one US writer who maintains that feminism, deeply entrenched in every segment of the culture, has created an environment in which young men find it more beneficial to simply opt out of couple-dom entirely.

Suzanne Venker’s article, “The War on Men,” which appeared on the website of Fox News in late November, has become a lodestone for feminist writers who have attacked her position that the institution of marriage is threatened, not enhanced, by the supposed gains of the feminist movement over the last 50 years.

“Where have all the good (meaning marriageable) men gone?” is a question much talked about lately in the secular media, Venker says, but her answer, backed up by statistics, is not to the liking of mainstream commentators influenced by feminism.

She points out that for the first time in US history, the number of women in the workforce has surpassed the number of men, while more women than men are acquiring university degrees.

“The problem? This new phenomenon has changed the dance between men and women,” Venker wrote. With feminism pushing them out of their traditional role of breadwinner, protector and provider – and divorce laws increasingly creating a dangerously precarious financial prospect for the men cut loose from marriage – men are simply no longer finding

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“Men are tired,” Venker wrote. “Tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s men’s fault.”

What? Young men aren't rushing to marry the Sandra Flukes of this world? I'm shocked!/sarc

1 posted on 01/11/2013 5:40:07 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Why buy the cow ...


2 posted on 01/11/2013 5:43:39 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019

Sounds like a lot of guys have lost their taste for milk....


3 posted on 01/11/2013 5:45:11 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: ReformationFan

Hate to say it but with a lot of the young men I’ve met recently I don’t think all the blame can be laid on the women. Maybe it’s just that men aren’t men anymore.

Just saying.


4 posted on 01/11/2013 5:46:14 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: ReformationFan

Why marry - I’ll just find a woman who hates me and give her half my stuff.


5 posted on 01/11/2013 5:46:40 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: ReformationFan

http://www.moviesoundclips.net/download.php?id=2854&ft=wav


6 posted on 01/11/2013 5:49:08 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ReformationFan

I will Marry again. I know I screwed up the first time~35 years ago. Allot of good Men and Women raised Daughters (my age, 57), that are good Women. I’ll be damn if I can find them though (NO!, I don’t hang in Bars nor Churches).

As Robert Cray sings: I’m a Good Man, Ok, maybe Arogant but Good, none the less....


7 posted on 01/11/2013 5:49:19 PM PST by corbe (mystified)
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To: ReformationFan
Where have all the good (meaning marriageable) men gone?

I'm right here at home, without noise blaring, everything calm and peaceful, my money safe, and I can do whatever I want without explaining exactly why the transmission is in the bathtub.

/johnny

8 posted on 01/11/2013 5:49:58 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ReformationFan

Not to complain, but my woman ... wife ... has turned into beast since she went back to work.

The Frickin’ government makes two of us earn an income to have a normal life.

She comes home at night from work and bitches at the kids, at the dogs, at the cats and me. What ever happened to Ozzie and Harriet? I want a wife that greets me at the door with a Martini and makes me quickly forget the pain I go through at work. But we now end up in a negative and constant bitch session about how she doesn’t like her job and I do not like mine.

We at least share that. F feminists. Neither of us want this life.


9 posted on 01/11/2013 5:50:37 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: ReformationFan
This is what results when society drifts away from God.

Only in strict obedience to Him does a relationship make sense.

I have been outside of His will and (now) inside of it. I have proof...but it is only the kind of proof I can see and understand. Find your own...it awaits you.

As Chesterton said "Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried."

10 posted on 01/11/2013 5:51:13 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The 2nd Amendment is our defense against tyranny.)
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To: ReformationFan

I hate to admit this but my own son has told me IF he marries, he won’t do it unless he gets a pre-nup. I was sort of shocked. I told him that his father and I are happily married for all these years and why would he be so jaded at such a young age. His answer... “most marriages aren’t like yours and Dads. If half of the people get divorced, I’m making sure that my stuff remains my stuff”. I guess hearing all those horror stories from pals about their parents divorcing, cheating, etc... jaded him.


11 posted on 01/11/2013 5:51:20 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Slings and Arrows
I’ll just find a woman who hates me and give her half my stuff.

I did that 3 times. Then I did some math.... ;)

/johnny

12 posted on 01/11/2013 5:51:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Slings and Arrows
to both of ya:

seriesly

13 posted on 01/11/2013 5:52:19 PM PST by tomkat (HELL NO)
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To: ReformationFan
Having been long married and with no ax to grind here, it does seem to me to be true that women of all ages are more intent on marriage than men. The sad fact, which no feminist tergiversations can undo, is that in 2013 there is no benefit to marriage whatsoever for the average self-reliant man. The cold fact is, marriage is an outdated means used by women to hold men down.

For years, the "womens movement" has castigated men for not being as invested in their emotions and in 'relating' as women are, or want men to be. What they are now finding is, they have way overvalued these emotional response channels, and that men are much better suited to single life now than they are.

Feminist chickens coming home to roost.

14 posted on 01/11/2013 5:53:35 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: JRandomFreeper

“I can do whatever I want without explaining exactly why the transmission is in the bathtub.”

lol


15 posted on 01/11/2013 5:55:02 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I sent that to my ex. She hates me and still has half my stuff.


16 posted on 01/11/2013 5:55:09 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The 2nd Amendment is our defense against tyranny.)
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To: History Repeats

Oh yeah?

And just how are men supposed to be men when all the PC BS rules in the schools and workplace punish those who try ?
50 years of Big Government taking over the duies that were once a man’s AT THE DEMANDS OF THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT have seriously skewed the society.

Chances are half the women you meet would kill the child you father and you won’t know.Marriage doesn’t change that.

So Half the women in America aren’t worth marrying!


17 posted on 01/11/2013 5:55:28 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: corbe
If you are single and 57 and don't have some trainload of crappy baggage, take heart--there are about ten million single women in your age range looking for you and wondering where the hell you are.
18 posted on 01/11/2013 5:56:54 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: corbe
If you are single and 57 and don't have some trainload of crappy baggage, take heart--there are about ten million single women in your age range looking for you and wondering where the hell you are.
19 posted on 01/11/2013 5:57:00 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: F15Eagle
Why is the transmission in the bathtub?

But then that is a mystery to be solved...not a reason for divorce.

20 posted on 01/11/2013 5:57:32 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The 2nd Amendment is our defense against tyranny.)
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To: History Repeats

IMHO, it seems they’re either all over you or don’t want to know you at all....


21 posted on 01/11/2013 5:57:32 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: ReformationFan

Do you know how many times my HAND has called me a male chauvinist pig..?

Save a lot on dinner, too.

Is masculist a word? Meh, better not to use it, if there is one.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 5:57:41 PM PST by gaijin
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To: History Repeats
"Maybe it’s just that men aren’t men anymore."

Xenoestrogens in everything from shampoo to processed food is the culprit. Sadly, you probably heard that here first. Soybeans are straight Phytoestrogens... and try to find any factory food item without soy... it's a real "Purity of Essence" matter... it's causing men to vote like they have vaginas.

23 posted on 01/11/2013 5:58:21 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: ReformationFan

In their teens & 20s women whore around with every player and thug, they pop out two or 3 kids from different fathers.

Then in their 30s and 40s they decide they want a nice guy, but he must be 6+ feet tall with a six pack, show no sign of balding, and of course make 100K+ per year

All because they Deserve happiness

Gee, I wonder why no man wants any part of them.


24 posted on 01/11/2013 5:58:31 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: ReformationFan

I hear these complaints alot. Men want to milk the cow, but they wouldn’t buy the American breed. Some, in fact, are increasingly interested in foreign brides. Seems to me that there’s little wrong with the male side of the equation and the problem lies with who the women are being trained to be.


25 posted on 01/11/2013 5:59:52 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: JRandomFreeper
The late Lewis Grizzard said something similar after his fourth divorce: "The next time I feel like getting married, I'll just find a woman I can't stand and buy her a house."

But he married for the fifth time shortly before the operation which he did not survive.

26 posted on 01/11/2013 6:00:02 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: History Repeats

Modern marriage has removed any real incentive to compete and be the best man possible, so it’s a question of why bother trying.

Enjoy life and relax.


27 posted on 01/11/2013 6:00:02 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: ReformationFan

The genders are switching traits!!!


28 posted on 01/11/2013 6:01:42 PM PST by Forrestfire (("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." Theodore Roosevelt))
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To: qam1

Exactly.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 6:01:42 PM PST by omega4179 ( Huelo azufre)
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To: RoosterRedux
that is a mystery to be solved.

You do NOT want to lose one of those little parts. A bathtub is the perfect place for a rebuild. ;)

/johnny

30 posted on 01/11/2013 6:02:08 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ReformationFan

Why White Men Prefer Asian Women
http://www.fredoneverything.net/AsianWomen.shtml

Marriage, Horror, And Susan Reimer
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Reimer.shtml

Marrying Up
http://www.fredoneverything.net/OldGuys.shtml

The Feminization Of America
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Feminization.shtml


31 posted on 01/11/2013 6:02:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: ConservativeInPA
I want a wife that greets me at the door with a Martini and makes me quickly forget the pain I go through at work.

Prayers for peace your way, sir.

Also, perhaps you should make the martinis some nights - if nothing else, at least there will be martinis - cheers!

32 posted on 01/11/2013 6:02:42 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I hope you’re right.


33 posted on 01/11/2013 6:03:10 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Verginius Rufus
But he married for the fifth time shortly before the operation which he did not survive.

LOL! I'd be looking for a surgery that I couldn't survive as well. ;)

/johnny

34 posted on 01/11/2013 6:04:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: qam1

two out of three, too bad about the balding though.

what if i wear a hat?


35 posted on 01/11/2013 6:04:13 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: ReformationFan

America flew the coop long ago when heterosexual women decided to join with the man-hating lesbians and abandon their children to daycare so they could prove to the world they could be men too. Once females decided to assume the male role, males realized they no longer had a role. Soon men found themselves asking ‘Where da women at?’


36 posted on 01/11/2013 6:04:41 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: qam1
If I were suddenly to become single again after 20+ years...
The very LAST thing I would want is some young 'trophy wife'.

Give me a gal my age, or even a bit older, with a working brain, and that has 'been there & done that'.
..BTW, the 'beauty is only a light switch away' thing works for HER TOO!
37 posted on 01/11/2013 6:05:09 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: History Repeats

>>Hate to say it but with a lot of the young men I’ve met recently I don’t think all the blame can be laid on the women. Maybe it’s just that men aren’t men anymore.

Yep. It starts with their “single” mom who raises them to be a girl and that is reinforced by a school system that punishes them for being boys. Then, they are placed in an “everyone wins” soccer league in a sadly laughable attempt to satisfy their urge to compete. When they become interested in girls, the girls are already dressing like 1970’s hookers and that has to be intimidating for a boy who is just discovering his sexuality.

High school and college are a blur of video games.

When they should be settling down to marry, they are faced with a selection of women who are already “single” moms. Or they can find some ball-busting “professional” woman.

And they know that if they do not find the magic formula to making this woman absolutely happy all the time, they will find themselves divorced and indentured to their ex (if she is the mother of their child). Because, as we all know from Oprah, a woman has to be giddy with happiness at all times or she needs to put the husband “out of the picture” and go find herself.

I’ve been married to the same woman for 30 years and if I found myself single, I would definitely not seek any long-term relationship with an American woman today. I can’t blame the younger men to avoiding marriage.


38 posted on 01/11/2013 6:05:17 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: qam1

It’s a really weird world out there; dating-wise.

For many of the reasons you have noted.


39 posted on 01/11/2013 6:06:22 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: ReformationFan

Oh, great—another excuse for a Freeper misogyny thread.


40 posted on 01/11/2013 6:06:43 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ReformationFan
Very few U.S. women know servitude and the Biblical purpose of marriage.
You can't do it without a good relationship with God, both of you.
41 posted on 01/11/2013 6:07:24 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Farmer Dean

LOL, who is surprised?

Premarital sex is the norm in America and almost all sexually active adults are virtual polygamists who basically jump from partner to partner over affairs or short-lived marriages. This is the biggest threat to the idea of family and yet barely anyone even cares. Fornication is what decays societies the most, but for most Americans, even so-called conservatives, it is not even seen as the threat it truly is.

When the milk is for free barring a dinner at the Red Lobster after a prom dance, no one wants to suffer a cow.


42 posted on 01/11/2013 6:07:24 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: ReformationFan; Chode; GeronL

I’m on a christian dating site...none of the men will even talk!!!


43 posted on 01/11/2013 6:07:35 PM PST by Morgana (This space for rent...cheap)
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To: Slings and Arrows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjkLf_X88WM

For some reason, I really like this song.


44 posted on 01/11/2013 6:08:54 PM PST by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: ReformationFan; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

I asked for water, she gave me gasoline!


45 posted on 01/11/2013 6:09:03 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

If you are single and 57 and don’t have some trainload of crappy baggage, take heart—there are about ten million single women in your age range with a trainload of crappy baggage looking for you...


46 posted on 01/11/2013 6:11:28 PM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Seems to me that there’s little wrong with the male side of the equation and the problem lies with who the women are being trained to be.

There are dozens if not hundreds of sites for an American male to meet foreign women. For these sites to exist there mush be millions of foreign women that want American Males

On the flip side, there are no sites for American Women to meet foreign man. No one wants an American wife for marriage

As the most politically incorrect joke goes

The Man in Heaven vs The Man in Hell

The Man in heaven has
American: Salary
Black: Penis size
Chinese: Chef
English: House
French: Maid
German: Automobile
Greek: Weather
Indian: Employees
Italian: Mother
Japanese: Wife
Jewish: Business partner
Latin: Mistress
Swedish: Porn collection

While the Man in hell has
American: Wife
Black: Employees
Chinese: Penis size
English: Mistress
French: Automobile
German: Maid
Greek: Porn collection
Indian: Chef
Italian: Business partner
Japanese: House
Jewish: Mother
Latin: Salary
Swedish: Weather

47 posted on 01/11/2013 6:11:33 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: hinckley buzzard; corbe

Heck, there’s FReepers (like me) who are wondering where he is!!!!


48 posted on 01/11/2013 6:12:27 PM PST by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: ReformationFan; a fool in paradise
Try the Ukies (they're even greedier, having been deprived for 70 odd years!)


49 posted on 01/11/2013 6:15:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ReformationFan

50 posted on 01/11/2013 6:17:20 PM PST by Theoria
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