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Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Life Site News ^ | 1-10-13 | Hilary White

Posted on 01/11/2013 5:39:57 PM PST by ReformationFan

Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center.

Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997. The number of young adult men saying the same thing dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent in the same time.

Pew’s findings have caught the attention of one US writer who maintains that feminism, deeply entrenched in every segment of the culture, has created an environment in which young men find it more beneficial to simply opt out of couple-dom entirely.

Suzanne Venker’s article, “The War on Men,” which appeared on the website of Fox News in late November, has become a lodestone for feminist writers who have attacked her position that the institution of marriage is threatened, not enhanced, by the supposed gains of the feminist movement over the last 50 years.

“Where have all the good (meaning marriageable) men gone?” is a question much talked about lately in the secular media, Venker says, but her answer, backed up by statistics, is not to the liking of mainstream commentators influenced by feminism.

She points out that for the first time in US history, the number of women in the workforce has surpassed the number of men, while more women than men are acquiring university degrees.

“The problem? This new phenomenon has changed the dance between men and women,” Venker wrote. With feminism pushing them out of their traditional role of breadwinner, protector and provider – and divorce laws increasingly creating a dangerously precarious financial prospect for the men cut loose from marriage – men are simply no longer finding

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To: momtothree
I hate to admit this but my own son has told me IF he marries, he won’t do it unless he gets a pre-nup. I was sort of shocked. I told him that his father and I are happily married for all these years and why would he be so jaded at such a young age. His answer... “most marriages aren’t like yours and Dads. If half of the people get divorced, I’m making sure that my stuff remains my stuff”. I guess hearing all those horror stories from pals about their parents divorcing, cheating, etc... jaded him.

He's correct. Current divorce and family law is heavily slanted towards the woman. Marriage (as opposed to living with her) has little benefit for the guy. More and more guys are going on strike against marriage.

281 posted on 01/12/2013 6:42:35 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Bryanw92
And they know that if they do not find the magic formula to making this woman absolutely happy all the time, they will find themselves divorced and indentured to their ex (if she is the mother of their child). Because, as we all know from Oprah, a woman has to be giddy with happiness at all times or she needs to put the husband “out of the picture” and go find herself.

Truer words have yet to be spoken. All is happy-happy, joy-joy in Oprah land - OR ELSE!

I’ve been married to the same woman for 30 years and if I found myself single, I would definitely not seek any long-term relationship with an American woman today. I can’t blame the younger men to avoiding marriage.

I've been married for 26 1/2 years to the same woman. I firmly believe she was made just for me. I cannot imagine any of these "modern-day" women ever putting up with a husband like me, being a workaholic who saves his money.

If anything were to happen to my wife, I cannot imagine myself with any other woman. I just can't. I've seen to many of them the same age as my wife and they're all seriously screwed up in the head. Thankfully I married a good, Conservative Woman who appreciates our traditional marriage. She quit her full time job in 1999 when our oldest son was 3 years old and our youngest son was 1 year old to become in her words "a full time mom." Financially her quitting hurt for awhile but we managed our expenses well and lived responsibly.

She is completely unlike any other woman around her age. They all have a sense of entitlement to work their husbands to death in order to have the latest and greatest of everything (houses, cars, phones, clothes...) Mine wants me to stop working so hard and enjoy life. How could I ever give up a woman like that?!

282 posted on 01/12/2013 6:46:21 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ReformationFan

ROFL!! Whoever did that was genius.


283 posted on 01/12/2013 6:48:56 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Morgana
I’m on a christian dating site...none of the men will even talk!!!

They've been trained to not interrupt the women.

On dating sites, guys can put out a hundred messages for every response they receive. The smarter ones don't bother, they just put up the most flattering profile they can compose, and then see if any woman initiates a conversation.

284 posted on 01/12/2013 6:52:09 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Here’s how it works in today’s world. Say I was to lose my mind and get married again (I’m redundant there), and the young chippie decided she wanted it all...”

Your post makes me think of the movie “Not without my Daughter”, when Sally Field first tells her Iranian husband (in Iran) that she’s leaving. He says: “Fine, but I keep the girl”. Of course she eventually manages to leave the country, taking the girl with her. Needless to say, Sally had zero rights in Iran, which would be true even if she were Iranian.

The threads make it more than OBVIOUS that we’ve gone way too far in the wrong direction from that extreme...the liberals pulled it off on us, when we were asleep - NO FAULT DIVORCE - and it is amazing that we haven’t been able to fix that problem, as it screws up more women than even men now.


285 posted on 01/12/2013 6:59:20 AM PST by BobL
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To: Nea Wood

“I suspect you have trouble attracting an American woman because of your arrogance.”

If you were right we wouldn’t have 30,000,000 middle-aged women looking for guys that are SCARED TO DEATH to marry them.

You women won the game in the legal arena, for sure - but don’t blame us regarding the consequences of that victory.


286 posted on 01/12/2013 7:01:48 AM PST by BobL
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To: ReformationFan

Hate to say this as a guy but both the boys and the girls have failed to thrive. Neither have matured into adults. ‘Parents’ have failed.


287 posted on 01/12/2013 7:07:11 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: DesertRhino

OUTSTANDING POST!!!

And dead on with how foreign women look at their local men.

What I like to point out is that in the old country, for those women, divorce is looked up with shame and embarassemnent to the women. People ask why she wasn’t a good wife, why didn’t she attend to her husband’s need, etc. (pretty much what Dr. Laura says, by the way). That’s certainly the case in my wife’s (foreign-born) family where she has 12 siblings and zero divorces...would you want to be the first to divorce in that situation?

In the United States, if your husband doesn’t like your nail color the first thing that your friends say is DIVORCE HIM, TEACH HIM A LESSON. Similar for the wife’s family, in many cases. In the US, divorce is looked upon by women as a ticket to wealth and freedom. It’s no wonder that men don’t have a chance.

The legal system gave us this NIGHTMARE by making divorce profitable for one side. It is up to the legal system to fix it - and if they don’t (which will probably be the case), men would be nearly insane to participate in it.


288 posted on 01/12/2013 7:16:47 AM PST by BobL
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To: Sherman Logan

fermented soy is different.


289 posted on 01/12/2013 7:41:49 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Obadiah

I’m an engineer, and conservative. I married a social worker who was moderately liberal. But she was just young; at core she was solid, very solid, and we’ve been together for 40 years, this next September.

As time went on, she became more conservative. About the only thing left is that she still thinks dogs are better people than most people. But then I’ve come around to that conclusion myself.


290 posted on 01/12/2013 8:02:17 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: DesertRhino
No, the truth is that most foreign women get treated like garbage in most other countries. Over there men follow islam, drink to excess, beat them, die at age 50, or at best,, treat them with benign contempt. American husbands are almost angels in their eyes. Are there a few losers who abuse some nice girl from somewhere else? Sure. And there are also a very few of these women taking advantage of some man. Both were mostly in years past.

Columnist Fred Reed (links to his stuff up-thread, by another poster), did a smart thing: he got together with a Mexican woman. In Mexico. He retired there. His retirement check stretches further. He's a better catch compared to Mexican men. The woman is younger and attractive, and does not have access to American law to use against him.

I've been thinking that a plan for retiring men would be to go to an expat colony somewhere, whether Ukraine, Philippines, Thailand, South America, go someplace where long-time friends are likely to join you. Then hook up with a local woman. Have her understand that US citizenship for her will not ever happen.

291 posted on 01/12/2013 8:06:59 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ReformationFan
I see this as a "man" problem and not a woman or "women's lib" problem. In other words, men are to blame for the society we have today.

Women need men to be strong, assertive, financially responsible and always, always in control. Women need men to be go-getters and good, dependable providers. However, there are too many men out there that have become sissified. I don't mean in the women's clothes wearing sense of the word but sissified mentally.

Way too many men out there are slackers, they lack ambition, work ethic, discipline. They act like overgrown adolescents. Whenever I see a man sitting at home playing a child's video game on the living room couch in his sweatpants, I want to smack him upside the head and knock some sense into him. If you are a man over 21 and you are still living at home with your parents (and you are not attending university) than you are a loser who will get no respect from the ladies. If you are one of those, get off your butt and make a life for yourself - or you do not deserve a good woman.

Another thing I find pathetic about most of my fellow men is their "helplessness" with things domestic. Any man worth his salt should be able to sew a button, run a load of laundry, cook a decent meal and make a bed. Any man who relies on his mother or woman to do these tasks for him is a wimp. There is nothing "manly" about not knowing how to take care of yourself when the woman isn't around and even when the woman is around, it's nice to give her a break and do those chores for her from time to time.

Way too many men dress like slobs in public. Next time you go to a nice restaurant, look around you. You will see grown men taking their woman to dinner dressed in hockey jerseys, sneakers, ill-fitting jeans, etc. Men should never wear sneakers unless they are actually running or playing basketball or something - it makes them look like overgrown kids. When men go someplace nice with their woman, they should dress up because that will encourage your woman to do so as well and we all like our women to dress well for us in public.

I can go on and on but I'm tired of seeing women take the blame for our screwed-up society. It is the men that have let the women down. Women are starved for real men out there and there are tons of great women out there who are available. All you have to do is be a man and act like a man to get one. I know, I've been fighting them off for 20 years (I'm already married).

292 posted on 01/12/2013 8:09:58 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: BobL

I won’t get married. Screw that. If there was a roller coaster where fully 50% of the cars went flying off the tracks, and the man was usually horribly mangled, lost his guns via a TPO, and who’s house was stolen .... but the woman landed on pillows and then found a winning lottery ticket... I would N E V E R get on that ride.


293 posted on 01/12/2013 8:15:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: chesley

Completely agree. If a woman could be liberal, but soft of heart, therefore as you describe, merely needing loving guidance. I gues I was thinking about the hard-hearted shrew liberal woman. Yeesh! *shudder*


294 posted on 01/12/2013 8:17:26 AM PST by Obadiah (It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains.)
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To: SamAdams76

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein


295 posted on 01/12/2013 8:20:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: dragnet2
What's amazing is these morons who marry two and three times...Stoopid does not begin to describe these lumberheads...

I spent seven years of misery with my first wife. A couple of years after our divorce I met and married my second wife. Wife 2 is a real doll and in a couple of months we will have had ten years of wedded bliss. There are good ones out there.

296 posted on 01/12/2013 8:24:24 AM PST by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: History Repeats
young women have low self esteem....they have been told thru movies, music,media that the "cool" thing to do is to have sex with whoever, never expect anything in return, because afterall, the girls on "Friends" seem to be so happy right?...

when all is said and done,the guys still worship at the altar of playboy and hooters, so why try to be decent?....why try to have values?...

no marriage and no children and no families....this is exactly what Hugh Hefner envisioned....men free to have it all without encumbrances....

birth control and abortion are pushed for the very same reasons...

297 posted on 01/12/2013 8:31:50 AM PST by cherry
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To: SamAdams76
On balance I think I agree with most of what you've said, and I think many here would too. I think we digress at the point of how this came to pass.

I am old enough to have observed societal changes that began in earnest in the late sixties. Woman demanded men change. Within the span of a generation and insidious liberal pop culture, the workplace became a place where a man dare not exert influence over a woman for fear of actual legal jeopardy and/or subtle, but real, career derailment.

Now just look at every single commercial ad on TV or elsewhere. Look at any output of pop culture, particularly TV and movies. Let's look at ANY TV commercial for instance, the white male is ALWAYS the weaker, dumber, clueless, disadvantaged person — always. Whenever I see a new commercial with a black guy and a white guy, I instantly know the black guy is going to be the hero and the white guy the buffoon. Same with any such depiction of a man and a woman. The grown man will be shown to have the maturity of an adolescent who needs the woman to straighten him out and show him the way.

One other thing that drives me absolutely wild is I now see women driving while the man is sitting in the passenger seat when the kids may or may not be in the back. Yes, I know there may be some occasional mitigating reasons (health, etc.) but I absolutely want to scream when I see this! When did men abdicate their manliness and their family leadership?

I guess the point is society (mostly liberal evilness via feminism) has demanded - demanded - that men stand down. And over the course of about one generation men have complied and we are where we are now. Many men are either wimps, emotional adolescents, or being low-key (not publicly being a standout example) about their place.

It is very sad. I am not raising my sons this way, but I do fear for the plight of both men and women. I think the majority of men will continue to shrink back and the majority of women will seek to try and dominate and BOTH will grow even more miserable!

298 posted on 01/12/2013 8:39:20 AM PST by Obadiah (It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains.)
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To: HawkHogan

Hey Hawk , I feel your pain. The number of young American democrat women out there is astounding. Even if one meets a Conservative female, the religion debate and other key differences may exist. I am Blessed to be with someone who is both Republican and Catholic, but it took a tremendous amount of patience, prayer and humility before I met her. Lot of idiotic democrat women out there, almost to the point of overwhelming me.


299 posted on 01/12/2013 8:42:52 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: fatima; Morgana
Why are they there:)

Maybe it's the site that says: Hot Christian singles. I get spam email from them, but think about that site name for a while........

300 posted on 01/12/2013 8:58:01 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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