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Discovery of 1,800-year-old ‘Rosetta Stone’ for tropical ice cores
Watts Up With That? ^ | April 4, 2013 | by Anthony Watts

Posted on 04/04/2013 5:54:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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Will Lonnie Thompson archive THIS new ice core data?

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From the Ohio State University , taken with a grain of salt since Dr. Thompson and his wife Ellen are serial non archivers of ice core data (even when asked for it), which prevents other scientists from checking their work.

Discovery of 1,800-year-old ‘Rosetta Stone’ for tropical ice cores

Find offers the most complete picture of Earth’s low-latitude climate history to date

This photo from a 1977 expedition to Quelccaya Ice Cap in Peru shows clearly defined annual layers of ice and dust visible in the ice cap’s margin. Researchers at the Ohio State University are using a set of ice cores taken from Quelccaya as a “Rosetta Stone” for studying other ice cores taken from around the world. Credit: Photo by Lonnie Thompson, Courtesy of Ohio State University.

COLUMBUS, Ohio—Two annually dated ice cores drawn from the tropical Peruvian Andes reveal Earth’s tropical climate history in unprecedented detail—year by year, for nearly 1,800 years.

Researchers at The Ohio State University retrieved the cores from a Peruvian ice cap in 2003, and then noticed some startling similarities to other ice cores that they had retrieved from Tibet and the Himalayas. Patterns in the chemical composition of certain layers matched up, even though the cores were taken from opposite sides of the planet.

In the April 4, 2013 online edition of the journal Science Express, they describe the find, which they call the first annually resolved “Rosetta Stone” with which to compare other climate histories from Earth’s tropical and subtropical regions over the last two millennia.

The cores provide a new tool for researchers to study Earth’s past climate, and better understand the climate changes that are happening today.

“These ice cores provide the longest and highest-resolution tropical ice core record to date,” said Lonnie Thompson, distinguished university professor of earth sciences at Ohio State and lead author of the study. 

“In fact, having drilled ice cores throughout the tropics for more than 30 years, we now know that this is the highest-resolution tropical ice core record that is likely to be retrieved.”

The new cores, drilled from Peru’s Quelccaya Ice Cap, are special because most of their 1,800-year history exists as clearly defined layers of light and dark: light from the accumulated snow of the wet season, and dark from the accumulated dust of the dry season.

They are also special because of where they formed, atop the high Andean altiplano in southern Peru. Most of the moisture in the area comes from the east, in snowstorms fueled by moist air rising from the Amazon Basin. But the ice core-derived climate records from the Andes are also impacted from the west—specifically by El Niño, a temporary change in climate, which is driven by sea surface temperatures in the tropical Pacific.

IMAGE: This 2002 photo of Quelccaya Ice Cap, taken from the same spot as a previous photo in 1977, shows the retreat of the ice wall’s vertical margins.Click here for more information.

El Niño thus leaves its mark on the Quelccaya ice cap as a chemical signature (especially in oxygen isotopes) indicating sea surface temperatures in the equatorial Pacific Ocean over much of the past 1,800 years.

“We have been able to derive a proxy for sea surface temperatures that reaches back long before humans were able to make such measurements, and long before humans began to affect Earth’s climate,” Thompson said.

Ellen Mosley-Thompson, distinguished university professor of geography at Ohio State and director of the Byrd Polar Research Center, explained that the 2003 expedition to Quelccaya was the culmination of 20 years of work.

The Thompsons have drilled ice cores from glaciers atop the most remote areas of the planet—the Chinese Himalayas, the Tibetan Plateau, Kilimanjaro in Africa, and Papua Indonesia among others—to gauge Earth’s past climate. Each new core has provided a piece of the puzzle, as the researchers measured the concentrations of key chemicals preserved in thousands of years of accumulated ice.

A 1983 trip to Quelccaya yielded cores that earned the research team their first series of papers in Science. The remoteness of the site and the technology available at the time limited the quality of samples they could obtain, however. The nearest road was a two-day walk from the ice cap, so they were forced to melt the cores in the field and carry samples back as bottles of water. This made some chemical measurements impossible, and diminished the time resolution available from the cores.

“Due to the remoteness of the ice cap, we had to develop new tools such as a light-weight drill powered by solar panels to collect the 1983 cores. However, we knew there was much more information the cores could provide” Mosley-Thompson said. “Now the ice cap is just a six-hour walk from a new access road where a freezer truck can be positioned to preserve the cores. So we can now make better dust measurements along with a suite of chemical analyses that we couldn’t make before.”

The cores will provide a permanent record for future use by climate scientists, Thompson added. This is very important, as plants captured by the advancing ice cap 6,000 years ago are now emerging along its retreating margins, which shows that Quelccaya is now smaller than it has been in six thousand years.

“The frozen history from this tropical ice cap—which is melting away as Earth continues to warm—is archived in freezers at -30ºC so that creative people will have access to it 20 years from now, using instruments and techniques that don’t even exist today,” he said.

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Coauthors on the study include Mary Davis, Victor Zagorodnov, and Ping-Nan Lin of Byrd Polar Research Center; Ian Howat of the School of Earth Sciences at Ohio State; and Vladimir Mikhalenko of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Funding was provided by the National Science Foundation’s Paleoclimatology Program and Ohio State’s Climate, Water and Carbon Program.



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Title: Will Lonnie Thompson archive THIS new ice core data?......subtitle:

Discovery of 1,800-year-old ‘Rosetta Stone’ for tropical ice cores

1 posted on 04/04/2013 5:54:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Tropical ice cores? Like mango and pineapple flavored?


2 posted on 04/04/2013 6:08:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If the data mined from this can be twisted around to offer "proof" of "climate change" (whatever that's supposed to mean), we'll hear a lot more of this.

If it proves that there is no change in climate (no "global warming"), it'll get buried faster than Benghazi-gate.

3 posted on 04/04/2013 6:59:48 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Great Find! Thanks!


4 posted on 04/04/2013 7:48:26 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We cam pretty much disregard ANY thing that comes from any ice core ‘scientist.’ As a group, they seldom preserve their data; thus, no one can check their findings. We all have to just take their word that what they say they found is what they found.


5 posted on 04/05/2013 3:04:50 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Graewoulf
My only comment, before this becomes a BFD...
Any "scientists" that do not allow their data and its manipulation to be checked by other scientists forfeits the privilege of using the title "scientist."

Do we have to go throught the East Anglia Fiasco all over again?

What's the definition of "insanity?"

6 posted on 04/05/2013 7:40:48 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: publius911

Yup, it is called “peer-review.”


7 posted on 04/05/2013 7:48:11 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Ernest.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


8 posted on 04/07/2013 9:01:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

indicating sea surface temperatures in the equatorial Pacific Ocean over much of the past 1,800 years.

“We have been able to derive a proxy for sea surface temperatures that reaches back long before humans were able to make such measurements, and long before humans began to affect Earth’s climate,” Thompson said.


I though large scale agriculture & watershed modifications started long before that. Learn something new every day! /sarc


9 posted on 04/07/2013 9:37:07 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The cores will provide a permanent record for future use by climate scientists, Thompson added. This is very important, as plants captured by the advancing ice cap 6,000 years ago are now emerging along its retreating margins, which shows that Quelccaya is now smaller than it has been in six thousand years.

“The frozen history from this tropical ice cap—which is melting away as Earth continues to warm—is archived in freezers at -30ºC so that creative people will have access to it 20 years from now, using instruments and techniques that don’t even exist today,” he said.


I believe that he meant the “plants now emerging from the retreating margins” indicates the cap is melting as the earth continues to REwarm; and that the ice cap is still larger than it was in the past, before the earth cooled beyond all reason.

WELCOME THE WARMTH; FEAR THE ICE!


10 posted on 04/07/2013 9:45:10 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“We have been able to derive a proxy for sea surface temperatures that reaches back long before humans were able to make such measurements, and long before humans began to affect Earth’s climate,” Thompson said.

No agenda there, nope.

11 posted on 04/07/2013 12:28:28 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv

Gee, I thought those tropical ice caps had melted. Didn’t the models assure us that would happen?


12 posted on 04/10/2013 4:15:25 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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