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1000-year-old coins found in Northern Territory may rewrite Australian history
News.com.au ^ | 20 May 2013 | BARBARA BARKHAUSEN

Posted on 05/20/2013 1:31:34 PM PDT by Theoria

REMEMBER when you were taught that Australia was discovered by James Cook in 1770 who promptly declared it "terra nullius" and claimed it for the British throne? Turns out that could be completely and utterly wrong.

Five copper coins and a nearly 70-year-old map with an "X" might lead to a discovery that could rewrite Australia's history.

Australian scientist Ian McIntosh, currently Professor of Anthropology at Indiana University in the US, is planning an expedition in July that has stirred up the archaeological community.

The scientist wants to revisit the location where five coins were found in the Northern Territory in 1944 that have proven to be 1000 years old, opening up the possibility that seafarers from distant countries might have landed in Australia much earlier than what is currently believed.

Back in 1944 during World War II, after Japanese bombers had attacked Darwin two years earlier, the Wessel Islands - an uninhabited group of islands off Australia's north coast - had become a strategic position to help protect the mainland.

Australian soldier Maurie Isenberg was stationed on one of the islands to man a radar station and spent his spare time fishing on the idyllic beaches. While sitting in the sand with his fishing-rod, he discovered a handful of coins in the sand.

He didn't have a clue where they could come from but pocketed them anyway and later placed them in a tin. In 1979 he rediscovered his "treasure" and decided to send the coins to a museum to get them identified. The coins proved to be 1000 years old.

Still not fully realising what treasure he held in his hands, he marked an old colleague's map with an "X" to remember where he had found them.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 1606; 16060220; 1777; africa; ancientnavigation; arabia; archaeology; artifacts; australia; coins; cook; discovery; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; history; india; kilwa; kilwasultanate; maurieisenberg; oman; spiceislands; tanzania; terranullius; wesselislands; zanzibar
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McIntosh and his team of Australian and American historians, archaeologists, geomorphologists and Aboriginal rangers say that the five coins date back to the 900s to 1300s.

They are African coins from the former Kilwa sultanate, now a World Heritage ruin on an island off Tanzania.

1 posted on 05/20/2013 1:31:34 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv

Trade, coins, X marks the spot. Just cool.


2 posted on 05/20/2013 1:32:15 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

I think the real question is how long have they been there? Just because they’re 1000 years old doesn’t mean they were sitting on that beach for 1000 years.


3 posted on 05/20/2013 1:37:31 PM PDT by pgkdan (Some taglines never go away....)
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To: pgkdan

Sure. They could have been one of Zeng He’s collection of stuff via a shipwreck, or a prank, or something else.


4 posted on 05/20/2013 1:39:50 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

They should look down. I here there are short people there.


5 posted on 05/20/2013 1:41:32 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: pgkdan

Exactly.


6 posted on 05/20/2013 1:43:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Theoria

Cool story, even if it isn’t what they are hoping for, or is even just a hoax.

Thanks for posting the story.


7 posted on 05/20/2013 1:52:05 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Theoria

Just because they’re a 1000 years old there’s no telling when they were dropped there. I bet you can get a bunch of old Roman coins, drop them in New York City and claim they were there before whoever landed there first.


8 posted on 05/20/2013 2:07:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Domangart

Indonesian islands and the Northern part of Papua New Guinea have a mixture of Indonesian and Melanesian/Afro-Australian blood, though the Indonesian language dominates. I wouldn’t be surprised if those on the coast were trading with Northern Australia. It’s not that far by boat, and the peoples are not totally alien - as if a Chinese man met aborigines.


9 posted on 05/20/2013 2:13:57 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Theoria

I hope they are backed by a gold standard.


10 posted on 05/20/2013 2:16:58 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Theoria; SunkenCiv
Or the coins could've washed ashore after a shipwreck. When Isenberg discovered the copper coins he also found four coins that originated from the Dutch East India Company - with one dating back to 1690 raising memories of those early Dutch seafarers that stepped on Australian shores well before Cook.

I purchased a lot of shipwreck coins found by diver/fishermen off the coast of Java back in ~ 1965.

The "trove" consisted of a mixture of copper and bronze coins of both Oriental and Dutch origin. Many of the coins were 1 and 2 "duit" Dutch coins bearing the Dutch East India logo ("VOC") on obverse and the denomination and date on the reverse. Most coins were dated 1790 although there were a few 1824s and an 1834.

The Oriental coins i.e., the generic Chinese "cash" design coins with the square in the middle in the lot were from dynasties of the mid 600's through ~ 1500 AD. These were clearly bronze in composition and all the coins cleaned up fairly well after soaking in concentrated Acetic Acid for about a week or two.

These coins were traded regularly in that region for hundreds of years, and little attention was given to dates of coinage as much as it was essential to trade upon the basis of intrinsic trading value of the coins.

The reason I have knowledge of the dates of the Oriental coins is that I presented a couple of them to Chinese business partners as gifts and they were able to translate the inscriptions which indicated the dynasty.

So back to the Ausssie find, I think discoveries like this may be more common than is typically broadcast, but 15 minutes of fame + an opportunity to take a swipe at British imperialism is the kind of a thing some folks are inclined to do.

FReegards!


11 posted on 05/20/2013 2:47:08 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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Thanks for the addition to the story.

Chinese coins are occasionally found off of the US, the years vary, the real gems are the donut anchors.

Here is an example found off of Oregon.


12 posted on 05/20/2013 2:58:03 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Remember this .... if /when California or any other State requires “Micro Stamping” of your Firing Pin ... make damned sure you police the brass for LE at your local shooting range and then Johnny Appleseed it all over the place.

TT


13 posted on 05/20/2013 3:09:11 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Theoria

Madagascar was settled from Indonesia. Interesting.


14 posted on 05/20/2013 3:12:27 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: OldNewYork
Madagascar Founded By Women[Indonesian]
15 posted on 05/20/2013 3:17:07 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

all you white folks, get off our land....now!!!


16 posted on 05/20/2013 3:21:24 PM PDT by B212
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To: Theoria

Thanks. Also very interesting.


17 posted on 05/20/2013 3:26:45 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Theoria

5 coins found on a beach? Sure thing.


18 posted on 05/20/2013 4:11:26 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Theoria; Agamemnon; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Theoria.

And thanks Agamemnon for the interesting sidebar!

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


19 posted on 05/20/2013 7:22:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SkyDancer

I agree —I’m a coin collector and I have coins going back over 2,000 years. If, heaven forbid, a tornado takes my home and levels it, and years from now someone dug up those coins, is that proof that Romans, or Greeks inhabited my portion of Northern Virginia? Nope....
Pat


20 posted on 05/20/2013 7:27:21 PM PDT by duckbutt (Those who pay no taxes have no check on their appetite for services.)
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