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'Batwoman' Co-Authors Exit, Claim DC 'Prohibited' Lesbian Marriage
The Hollywood Reporter ^

Posted on 09/05/2013 6:51:06 PM PDT by Kip Russell

DC Comics' Batwoman is losing its two co-authors.

In a blog post late Wednesday, co-authors J.H. Williams and W. Haden Blackman wrote that they'd be exiting the comic after Issue 26 is released in December, citing creative difficulties with DC.

Batwoman was relaunched in 2010 as a stand-alone series that told a new origin story about female Caped Crusader Kate Kane (aka Batwoman), this time a member of the U.S. Military Academy who was forced to leave after allegations arose that she was gay. Rather than hide her sexual orientation, she opted to leave the academy.

"In recent months, DC has asked us to alter or completely discard many long-standing storylines in ways that we feel compromise the character and the series," Williams and Blackman wrote. "We were told to ditch plans for Killer Croc's origins; forced to drastically alter the original ending of our current arc, which would have defined Batwoman's heroic future in bold new ways; and, most crushingly, prohibited from ever showing Kate and Maggie actually getting married. All of these editorial decisions came at the last minute, and always after a year or more of planning and plotting on our end."

The duo noted that they pitched the first five arcs of the comic before the first issue of the relaunched DC title was even written and rather than make drastic changes to their story, have opted to exit the comic.

"We’ve always understood that, as much as we love the character, Batwoman ultimately belongs to DC," they wrote. "However, the eleventh-hour nature of these changes left us frustrated and angry -- because they prevent us from telling the best stories we can. So, after a lot of soul-searching, we’ve decided to leave the book after Issue 26. We’re both heartbroken over leaving, but we feel strongly that you all deserve stories that push the character and the series forward. We can’t reliably do our best work if our plans are scrapped at the last minute, so we’re stepping aside. We are committed to bringing our run to a satisfying conclusion and we think that Issue 26 will leave a lasting impression."

The news comes after February's groundbreaking 17th issue of the Batwoman, in which Kate proposed to her girlfriend, Maggie Sawyer. It marked the first lesbian wedding proposal in the history of mainstream comics. Since its start, the series has been a champion for gay rights, foreshadowing the overturn of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." Batwoman also represents DC's latest exploration of LGBT storylines. (Iconic comic character Green Lantern came out as gay in a June, 2012 issue.) For its part, the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation awarded Batwoman with the award for outstanding comic book in 2012.

In a series of follow-up tweets, Williams clarified what he saw as DC's position on the marriage issue. "We fought to get them engaged, but were told emphatically no marriage can result," he wrote, adding that it "was never put to us as being anti-gay marriage." Fellow DC Comics creator Gail Simone suggested that "it's more of an anti-marriage thing in general," to which Williams agreed. (It's worth noting that not only was Superman's marriage to Lois Lane undone when the publisher relaunched the character in 2011, but a plotline featuring an engaged Bruce Wayne was rumored to have been killed at the last minute last year.)

Williams and Blackman are far from the first creators to resign from a DC series over editorial decisions; over the last couple of years, DC has seen a number of writers leave titles for similar reasons, including James Robinson, Rob Liefeld, Andy Diggle and Joshua Fialkov, with the latter being notable for his leaving before even writing one issue of his run on either the Green Lantern Corps or Red Lanterns series.

For his part, Williams may be leaving Batwoman but he is not leaving DC as a whole. He confirmed that he would still be illustrating Neil Gaiman's Sandman: Overture series for the publisher's Vertigo imprint, explaining that "this problem has nothing to do with anything involving Sandman or Vertigo."

When contacted for comment, a DC spokesman said "As acknowledged by the creators involved, the editorial differences with the writers of Batwoman had nothing to do with the sexual orientation of the character."

Read Williams and Blackman's complete post, below:

(rest of article follow at link)


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: batwoman; comics; dc; enoughalready; homosexualagenda; superheroes
It's interesting that the issue at hand isn't that the characters are lesbians, but rather that DC Comics doesn't want any of their characters to be married, straight or gay. As noted above, Superman's marriage to Lois Lane was erased from continuity, as was that of The Flash. Over at Marvel Comics, Spider-Man's marriage was also wiped from existence recently.
1 posted on 09/05/2013 6:51:06 PM PDT by Kip Russell
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To: Kip Russell
Superman's marriage to Lois Lane was erased from continuity, as was that of The Flash. Over at Marvel Comics, Spider-Man's marriage was also wiped from existence recently.

Can they do that for normal people? I've got a list....

/johnny

2 posted on 09/05/2013 6:54:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kip Russell
Spider-Man's marriage was also wiped from existence recently.

And All Spider-man had to do was make a deal with the Devil.

AH, Aren't Modern Comics so much fun?

3 posted on 09/05/2013 6:56:44 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Kip Russell
Kinda sucks to be a lesbian and still play second-fiddle to a man. Oh well. If you can't lick 'em, join 'em.
4 posted on 09/05/2013 6:57:23 PM PDT by golux
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To: Kip Russell

Didn’t they do up the Green Hornet (or some black superhero) as GAY..?

Also Archie got some gay character, I understand.

“Superhero powers activate..! Form of: ice dildo...!”


5 posted on 09/05/2013 6:59:03 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kip Russell

So the world has to live without a comic book character who defines themselves by the type of sex they prefer. Somehow the world will manage t stumble along.


6 posted on 09/05/2013 7:06:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: gaijin
Didn’t they do up the Green Hornet (or some black superhero) as GAY..?

Also Archie got some gay character, I understand.

“Superhero powers activate..! Form of: ice dildo...!”

DC made one of the Green Lanterns gay on the new 52, and Archie got a gay character named Kevin Keller.

Our culture sucks


7 posted on 09/05/2013 7:17:55 PM PDT by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: golux

Batman. A rich guy, insane, no super powers and a little butt-buddy. That was gay in itself.
A lesbian in tights, a mask with pointy ears, a ‘utility belt’, high heels and PMS. Holy cow.
Now I now why the Marvel guys were snickering at those of us with our DC Legion of Super Heros.


8 posted on 09/05/2013 7:27:44 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: erod; gaijin
DC made one of the Green Lanterns gay on the new 52

Alan Scott, the Green Lantern of Earth-2.

Pre-gay version:

Post-gay version:

Archie got a gay character named Kevin Keller.

In "Life With Archie" (the "future history" version of Archie), Kevin Keller has already gotten married.


9 posted on 09/05/2013 7:29:04 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: golux
Oh well. If you can't lick 'em, join 'em.

Must... Suppress... Response...

10 posted on 09/05/2013 7:33:06 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: erod

Modern life is so complicated.


11 posted on 09/05/2013 7:35:03 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Kip Russell
catman photo: catman catman.jpg

In the meantime, Catman will be filling in until the authors get over themselves.

12 posted on 09/05/2013 7:35:57 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I have lost several friends who went over to "play for the other side." They were uniformily from homes where the father was absent, absent emotionally, or abusive. The behavior began small, after they were recruited. They started out being liberals, theater majors, readers, academics or any of a dozen different things, who happened to be gay. In every case, the homosexual activity grew, and grew, and grew, until they defined themselves as GAY MENwho happened to be liberals, theater majors, readers, academics or any of a dozen different things. The CHOSEN lifestyle eclipsed everything they were before, they became exclusively defined by it. And as you may have experienced, the Gayity was in the end their core. It was impossible to say "You are smart, clever, and a nice person, but I disagree with this part of your behavior" because to disagree with them was to reject them, and a "hate crime" because there was nothing left of who they used to be. I witnessed to one fellow about how alcohol ran my life and helped me avoid dealing with my childhood anger and pain until Christ freed my spirit by forgiving me...and was told if I ever spoke to him again, he would have a restraining order served on me. (Of course, he worked for Legal Aid..."protecting" the downtrodden, because any time you have trouble in your life, it is the fault of someone else.)

Once it was "the love that dare not speak its name", today it is "the love that will not shut the hell up."

13 posted on 09/05/2013 7:36:03 PM PDT by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: KC_Lion
And All Spider-man had to do was make a deal with the Devil.

Well...a devil. Mephisto of Marvel Comics isn't Lucifer as such, but rather just one of many demonic beings.

On the other hand, Lucifer does appear in DC Comics, even to the extent of getting his own series...

All things being equal, Lucifer is a much more interesting character than Mephisto. Mephisto wears his evil on his sleeve, as it were. "Bwah-ha-ha, I'm eeeeeevil!" Lucifer, on the other hand, is subtle.

14 posted on 09/05/2013 7:41:16 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell

Gross, we are so screwed.


15 posted on 09/05/2013 7:44:58 PM PDT by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL! I would think that marriage would put a damper on being a super hero. They are always on call and you can’t risk a trainload of people dying because you’re changing diapers.


16 posted on 09/05/2013 7:46:42 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Kip Russell
Actually the Devil that broke up Peters and Mary Janes Marriage was named Joe Quesada.

Because Spider Man writers fear change of a character growing up.

17 posted on 09/05/2013 7:47:02 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Kip Russell

It appears the only ones reading comics these days are the homos. ALL of the characters are coming out of the closet. Whodda thunk that they’d ALL be “born that way. The comic book industry is becoming a bigger joke than the sexual deviant industry.


18 posted on 09/05/2013 7:53:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: KC_Lion
Actually the Devil that broke up Peters and Mary Janes Marriage was named Joe Quesada.

Fair point!

Because Spider Man writers fear change of a character growing up.

At the time the storyline was coming out, I recall him saying something to the effect of, "Look...Spider-Man shouldn't be married, because younger readers can't relate to married people".

19 posted on 09/05/2013 7:55:03 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
ALL of the characters are coming out of the closet.

Well, to be fair it's considerably less than 1% of the characters...it's just that when one of them is announced to be homosexual, it gets publicity.

20 posted on 09/05/2013 7:56:54 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: 50sDad
I think you'll find this interesting. It's written by a Catholic who struggled for many years to reconcile his homosexuality with his desire to live a moral life. It's a long read - worth it IMO...

The Truth About the Homosexual Rights Movement

21 posted on 09/05/2013 8:10:04 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: gaijin

Green Lantern... Black superhero...Gay


22 posted on 09/05/2013 8:29:59 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: baddog 219
Green Lantern... Black superhero...Gay

Actually, in the case of John Stewart (the only black Green Lantern I know of), it's quite the opposite:


23 posted on 09/05/2013 8:43:38 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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“It’s interesting that the issue at hand isn’t that the characters are lesbians, but rather that DC Comics doesn’t want any of their characters to be married, straight or gay. As noted above, Superman’s marriage to Lois Lane was erased from continuity, as was that of The Flash. Over at Marvel Comics, Spider-Man’s marriage was also wiped from existence recently.”

For all their pretensions of “maturity”, the comics industry can’t handle complexity very well. So instead they substitute a little of the old ultra-violence instead. Relationships are hard to write, but rape isn’t.


24 posted on 09/06/2013 4:32:01 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball
For all their pretensions of “maturity”, the comics industry can’t handle complexity very well.

There have been exceptions, of course...the comics of Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman come to mind immediately... but (to paraphrase Theodore Sturgeon) 90% of comics stink. But then, 90% of everything stinks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_Law

25 posted on 09/06/2013 6:16:08 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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Quit Bringing up that Good Show.

What we need is Superman lamenting how different he is and Batman being played by Ben Affleck.

I smell Sit Com!

26 posted on 09/06/2013 6:29:18 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Kip Russell

Good. Time to weed the faggots out of the comic book business.
Kids still read them, too.


27 posted on 09/06/2013 6:32:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: erod

I remember reading Archie comics when I was probably 6 or 7 in the mid-1960s. You would have been thought insane to publish such a thing.


28 posted on 09/06/2013 6:44:38 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: gaijin
Didn’t they do up the Green Hornet (or some black superhero) as GAY..?

HELL NO! That was "Green Lantern!"

29 posted on 09/06/2013 6:52:56 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: KC_Lion
Quit Bringing up that Good Show.

Justice League Unlimited and the rest of the series in the DC Animated Universe are, collectively, the best iteration of the superhero genre ever put on television.

30 posted on 09/06/2013 8:37:14 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Lancey Howard
Good. Time to weed the faggots out of the comic book business.

As far as I can tell, Batwoman is still going to be portrayed as a lesbian...she just won't be getting married, because DC Comics doesn't want any of their characters to be married.

31 posted on 09/06/2013 8:39:21 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: FreedomPoster

It really is a sad thing, that this material is being used to indoctrinate so many.


32 posted on 09/07/2013 11:10:47 AM PDT by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: GreenHornet
omg you are right...


33 posted on 09/07/2013 1:53:01 PM PDT by gaijin
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