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Processed food NOT fat is the real cause of heart disease, claims heart surgeon
dailymail ^ | 29 January 2014

Posted on 01/29/2014 9:00:04 AM PST by dennisw

Processed food NOT fat is the real cause of heart disease, claims heart surgeon who says a diet of natural food can even reverse the illness

Dr. Dwight Lundell admits prescribing cholesterol-lowering medications, and a low-fat, high-simple carbohydrate diet for two-and-a-half decades was misguided 'These recommendations are no longer scientifically or morally defensible,' he writes in an essay that has ignited the Internet He vlaims these foods actively destroy the walls of our blood vessels by causing chronic inflammation, which in turn causes heart disease The cardiac surgeon recommends only eating foods your grandmother, or great-grandmother, would recognise

An Arizona heart surgeon's claim that a diet of unprocessed foods - not necessarily low-fat foods - can prevent and even reverse heart disease has ignited the Internet.

Dr. Dwight Lundell has dished the dirt on 'what really causes heart disease' and he admits prescribing cholesterol-lowering medications, and a low-fat, high-simple carbohydrate diet for two-and-a-half decades was misguided.

'These recommendations are no longer scientifically or morally defensible,' he writes in the essay, that has been posted on some 250,000 Facebook pages since it appeared on a website called Tuned Body in December.

He explains that this once 'healthy' diet actively destroys the walls of our blood vessels by causing chronic inflammation. This inflammation makes cholesterol stick to the walls, forming the plaques that eventually block them, resulting in a heart attack or stroke.

'When you spike your blood sugar level several times a day, every day, it is exactly like taking sandpaper to the inside of your delicate blood vessels,' he writes.

The former cardiac surgeon, who says he's 'peered inside thousands upon thousands of arteries' slams refined carbohydrates as well as the proportion of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids in the Western diet.

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cholesterol; diet; fat; food; heartdisease; inflammation; nutrition; processedfood; stroke
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1 posted on 01/29/2014 9:00:04 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Pfl


2 posted on 01/29/2014 9:03:45 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: dennisw

Didn’t the Atkins Diet expose the ‘fat is a killer’ lie, many moons ago?


3 posted on 01/29/2014 9:06:49 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: dennisw

Eat more bacon and eggs and butter. How much more natural can you get?


4 posted on 01/29/2014 9:07:23 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: dennisw

I always say look at the ingredients in a common loaf of bread today, vs bread made 50 years ago.
There is a difference and I would guess not for the good.


5 posted on 01/29/2014 9:08:17 AM PST by WILLIALAL
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To: dennisw

Our family is a diabetes factory. We reduced carbohydrate intake drastically and are now much healthier. I am personally much healthier on a meat centric diet. Add some veggies and I feel great.


6 posted on 01/29/2014 9:09:01 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: dennisw

yum yum,,, love those nuts and broccoli !

http://www.llu.edu/public-health/health/index.page

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23836264


7 posted on 01/29/2014 9:10:00 AM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: Sacajaweau
The Icelandic people are some of the most healthy in the world in terms of longevity and lack of heart disease. Their diet is rich in dairy products and animal fat, almost all red meat, sheep, goats and cattle, with a little fish thrown in.

Go figure.

8 posted on 01/29/2014 9:11:40 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: WILLIALAL
I always say look at the ingredients in a common loaf of bread today, vs bread made 50 years ago.
There is a difference and I would guess not for the good.

Grab and squeeze a supermarket loaf of bread. The less squishy the better. Some breads billed as whole wheat are quite squishy. 

The biggest scam is calling bread "wheat bread".    This fools some into thinking they are eating some whole wheat bread. In reality its just a load of white flour with a smattering of whole wheat

9 posted on 01/29/2014 9:20:24 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

This is nothing new.

Dr. Fred Otoboni and his wife Dr. Alice Otoboni found that polyunsaturated fats are a big part of heart disease, and type 2 diabetes, and that was many years ago.


10 posted on 01/29/2014 9:22:16 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Sacajaweau

NOMS!!
Think I’ll cook up a big slab right now!


11 posted on 01/29/2014 9:22:52 AM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: dennisw

Grind and Cook the flour yourself. Avoid any processed flour. Especially GMO flour. You’ll feel better and have more energy.


12 posted on 01/29/2014 9:29:45 AM PST by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: DaxtonBrown

yup, that is a better diet.


13 posted on 01/29/2014 9:31:02 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: dennisw
Foods your grandmother... or great-granmother... would recognize.

I'm up for that. Meat, taters, gravy, garden vegetables. I could eat this every day, I think.


14 posted on 01/29/2014 9:35:16 AM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: dennisw

The doctor seems to focus on the simple carbs and the glycemic response. I think the high levels of sodium in processed foods is also a big factor. If you are retaining too much water, the heart has to pump additional volume through water logged tissue. Leads to high BP, enlarged hearts, kidney issues, etc.


15 posted on 01/29/2014 9:39:06 AM PST by IamConservative (There is no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: dennisw

I hate the breads that fall apart in a sandwich. I don’t know, but I’ll bet they are the ones worst for you.


16 posted on 01/29/2014 9:45:23 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: dennisw

This could be a whole thread by itself, but among the lies from the drug/medical community (also noted in the article) is the multi-billion-dollar cholestrol reducing drug industry. There is more and more evidence that cholestrol doesn’t lead to heart disease, but the drugs are HARMFUL.

I now have nerve damage in my feet caused by statins. It’s annoying and painful and will never really heal. My case is minor compared to others because I discovered it early, and stopped POISONING myself with statins. Cold feet was the first major sign for me. There are Internet threads out there full of others less fortunate who kept taking the drugs even though they knew something was wrong.

If you’re taking statins you should look into this, and read up on the cholestrol thing...a lot of disagreement on it.


17 posted on 01/29/2014 9:51:20 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Oberon

I cook that way, love home cooking. I’m lucky to have been taught by the best, mom and Grandma:)

those ol’ ladies could really make perfect gravy!


18 posted on 01/29/2014 9:55:37 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Vigilanteman

The problem with our dairy products is all of the antibiotics the cows are given. I’ve switched to almond milk, and the only way I’ll have dairy milk is non-fat milk and occassion hard (aged, not processed) cheese.


19 posted on 01/29/2014 9:57:34 AM PST by grania
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To: dennisw

This is going to be a long thread.


20 posted on 01/29/2014 10:00:03 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: dennisw

Hey, whaddaya know? He’s selling a book.


21 posted on 01/29/2014 10:01:41 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Beowulf9

Making good gravy really is an art. Whenever we have roast chicken or turkey at my house, I make the gravy. I’ve got pretty good at it (meaning I only louse it up every now and again). It’s generally good, sometimes great, but always a little different from the last time I made it.


22 posted on 01/29/2014 10:03:33 AM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: dennisw
"Some breads billed as whole wheat are quite squishy."

Actually, "whole wheat" is a meaningless marketing term. "Whole grain" is what you want to look for because there are specific criteria for the term. The two are not synonymous.

23 posted on 01/29/2014 10:08:29 AM PST by circlecity
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To: grania
Generally agree, though I'd say the antibiotics are just a small part of the problem. Far bigger are the other additives, steroids and even the environment under which these livestock are finished before slaughter (i.e. densely packed feed lots where they are up to their knees in manure and exposed to diseases which made the antibiotics necessary in the first place).

The problem is even worse for poultry than large livestock. I'll pass on any poultry with a Tyson's or Purdue label for this reason. We are fortunate here to be able to get Amish raised chicken for about 20 cents more per pound since our market is midway between two of the largest concentrations of Amish in the country.

You can taste the difference-- more dark meat and a slight gamey flavor from chickens raise with plenty of room and no nasty additives.

24 posted on 01/29/2014 10:09:02 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dennisw

As I read this there’s whole wheat dough, five ingredients only, rising in the kitchen.


25 posted on 01/29/2014 10:13:03 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Vigilanteman

“We are fortunate here to be able to get Amish raised chicken “

I am one who also buys Amish chicken. I get it at the Asian market in Randall Hgts. Their vegetables are always very good too.


26 posted on 01/29/2014 10:16:53 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: dennisw
Isn't this kinda the same thing given how fatty most processed foods are? Comparing the calories and fat in an egg and bacon sandwich you make at home vs. one from Jack in the Box was an eye opener in my house.

I can also make a decent red sauce for pizza that isn't mostly sugar and crisco. That seems to be what they've added to Dominos to make it “bolder”.

27 posted on 01/29/2014 10:18:20 AM PST by FluffyTexan
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To: FluffyTexan

>> “Isn’t this kinda the same thing given how fatty most processed foods are?” <<

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Processed foods are dangerous because they lack natural fats.


28 posted on 01/29/2014 10:20:13 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Hence the value of a nice roux. This combined with pan drippings and herbs makes a most delicious and natural gravy.

I think I'm getting a little hungry...

29 posted on 01/29/2014 10:38:40 AM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Oberon

Good for you:) Bet everyone loves that!

Nothing better than a good rich gravy. Turkey gravy over slabs of white turkey. Pork chop gravy on white bread. Chicken drippings fresh from a roast chicken over rice. Beef gravy over mashed potatoes! You can’t get that at a restaurant to taste like freshly made from roasts at home.

I think I will get a roast going, here, for dinner, lol!


30 posted on 01/29/2014 10:39:00 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: dennisw
If correct, the oils shown with a long blue bar are bad:
bad: sunflower oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, soybean oil

good: butter, coconut oil, lard, palm oil and olive oil

Also means seafood good, especially fatty fish like salmon.
Lean meat good.
31 posted on 01/29/2014 10:42:38 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: dennisw

Wow I just noticed the chart I posted shows lard is 3 times healthier than canola oil haha


32 posted on 01/29/2014 10:45:12 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

whoops make that two times


33 posted on 01/29/2014 10:45:48 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: grania

Processed cow’s milk (homogenization in particular) has also been linked to heart disease. Ever wonder why our Govt. protectors turn into the Gestapo with full-on prosecution when someone tries to sell unprocessed milk to a willing consumer?

I was happy to find some sheep/goat’s-milk feta cheese from Greece available at a local market here in Battle Creek. Cow’s milk feta always hurt my stomach, but the sheep feta is wonderful and doesn’t hurt me.


34 posted on 01/29/2014 11:29:01 AM PST by Sioux-san
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re: that feta cheese from Greece

On most of my purchases, I purchase made in the USA as much as possible. With food, there are some foods for which the imports are better. Most European, Egyptian, Turkish (etc) processed foods do not use corn syrup instead of real sugar. Fruits and vegetables are picked fully ripened, just before processing. The cheese, dairy and meats have not been turned into chemical concoctions.

Another good source of healthy prepared foods is Middle Eastern foods, even those processed in the US. The ingredients are usually excellent.

35 posted on 01/29/2014 11:50:20 AM PST by grania
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To: goodwithagun
As I read this there’s whole wheat dough, five ingredients only, rising in the kitchen.

Very good!! Wheat, oil, yeast, honey, salt?

36 posted on 01/29/2014 12:09:00 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Yep, plus water. Sometimes I sub a stout for the water. It just depends on how badly I might want to drink it instead!


37 posted on 01/29/2014 12:46:05 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Mount Athos

>lard is 3 times healthier than canola oil<

There’s one catch. The lard they sell in grocery stores is usually hydrogenated (so it can be stored without refrigeration). Unprocessed leaf lard is the healthy type and may not be readily available, depending on how far you are from a farmer.


38 posted on 01/29/2014 12:53:23 PM PST by Darnright (To reach something good, it is very useful to have gone astray, and thus acquire experience.)
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To: MHGinTN
Didn’t the Atkins Diet expose the ‘fat is a killer’ lie, many moons ago?

Yeah, 40 years ago, to be [almost] exact. But the nutrition, um, community still refuses to admit it. They still tout the benefits of "healthy" whole grains and insist on tiny servings of lean meat.

Amazing.

39 posted on 01/29/2014 1:23:47 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: dennisw

Funny how extremely unscientific the word ‘processed’ is but used in these junk articles.


40 posted on 01/29/2014 2:13:06 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: dennisw
He explains that this once 'healthy' diet actively destroys the walls of our blood vessels by causing chronic inflammation. This inflammation makes cholesterol stick to the walls, forming the plaques that eventually block them, resulting in a heart attack or stroke.

So why not continue to take statins, which reduce this inflammation?*

*Not going to respond to comments about myopathies and similar, none of which affect me.

41 posted on 01/29/2014 2:25:34 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: goodwithagun

I had not had a fresh stout in years. I went into the local brew house and asked for what dark beer you brew on the premises (they had a large selection of commercial bottles and drafts)

He poured a stout. It was the best beer I had in years. Bottled stout, Guinness or beer cannot compare. A fresh stout like that would be great in bread. Being non pasteurized and full of fresh ferments


42 posted on 01/29/2014 2:43:39 PM PST by dennisw
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To: BfloGuy

The Atkins Diet overall is not bad because of the carb restriction & emphasis on meat/protein/fat. It’s bad because of the lack of emphasis on eating non-CAFO beef, non-pastured chicken/eggs/dairy & strict avoidance of N-6 fats/oils. Atkins is a short-term therapeutic diet for relatively fast weight loss, & is certainly not healthy or optimal in the long run. Still, Atkins could certainly be made healthier by focusing on the quality of animal products & fats, & eliminating the gimmicky/unhealthy “Atkins” bars. But then it wouldn’t be called the Atkins Diet anymore.


43 posted on 01/29/2014 2:48:32 PM PST by doctor noe
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To: grania

thanks for the food tips - I love Middle Eastern food. Tried to find an American source for sheep-milk feta, but came up empty.


44 posted on 01/29/2014 3:43:20 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: doctor noe
It’s bad because of the lack of emphasis on eating non-CAFO beef, non-pastured chicken/eggs/dairy & strict avoidance of N-6 fats/oils. Atkins is a short-term therapeutic diet for relatively fast weight loss, & is certainly not healthy or optimal in the long run.

Perhaps, all true. I was speaking to the core issue of animal fats as a danger to our health and weight. Atkins was the pioneer in debunking that. That the nutrition industry still ignores that more and more obvious fact is scandalous.

45 posted on 01/29/2014 3:54:12 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: BfloGuy

I wonder how much pocket lining the grain lobby does to keep the largest spot on Big Gov’s food pyramid?


46 posted on 01/29/2014 3:55:16 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
I wonder how much pocket lining the grain lobby does to keep the largest spot on Big Gov’s food pyramid?

I suspect that plays a large part -- along with the general nutritional ignorance. If they could figure out a way to recommend we drink ethanol, they would.

47 posted on 01/29/2014 3:57:06 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: dennisw

I’ve been sending this to all my friends

http://www.preventdisease.com/news/12/030112_World-Renown-Heart-Surgeon-Speaks-Out-On-What-Really-Causes-Heart-Disease.shtml

I can’t eat any boxed foods anymore, let alone at most restaurants. It’s a long story, but I came to the ‘no-processed-foods’ conclusion for me long before I came across this guy, including quitting my cholesterol meds.

I’m glad he’s getting press (finally).


48 posted on 01/31/2014 8:59:20 PM PST by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

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Dr. Lundell's experience in cardiovascular and thoracic surgery over the last 25 years includes having performed over 5000 coronary bypass operations, certification by the American Board of Surgery, the American Board of Thoracic Surgery, and the Society of Thoracic Surgeons.
Dr. Lundell was a pioneer in "Off-Pump" heart surgery reducing surgical complications and recovery times. He's in the Beating Heart Hall of Fame and has been listed in Phoenix Magazine's Top Doctors for 10 years.
He has been recognized by his peers as a leader and has served as Chief resident at the University of Arizona and Yale University Hospitals and later served as Chief of Staff and Chief of Surgery at several hospitals in the Phoenix area.
He was one of the founding partners of the Lutheran Heart Hospital which became the second largest Heart hospital in U.S. and is now owned by Banner Health
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49 posted on 01/31/2014 11:12:19 PM PST by dennisw
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To: logi_cal869

Good for you if you quit statins. Niacin can help a lot and lots on the internet about niacin and your heart. I used to really like eating at Chinese restaurants. Now I see it as one big greasy mess.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/rugby-niacin-500-mg-1000-tabs?SourceCode=INTL405&CAWELAID=502904680&mkwid=lIIvXO2o&pcrid=45563020687&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CP_TqJmxqrwCFZBj7Aod43MA3Q

Most recent place i ate out was Sweet Tomatoes salad bar


50 posted on 01/31/2014 11:17:42 PM PST by dennisw
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