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Charlemagne's bones are (probably) real
The Local ^ | 31 Jan 2014 | unattributed

Posted on 02/05/2014 7:54:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv

German scientists have announced after almost 26 years of research that the bones interred for centuries at Aachen Cathedral are likely to be those of Charlemagne.

Researchers confirmed on Wednesday evening - 1,200 years to the day since Charlemagne died - that the 94 bones and bone fragments taken from the supposed resting place of the King of the Franks and founder of what was to become the Holy Roman Empire came from a tall, thin, older man.

The team first opened the sarcophagus of the first emperor in western Europe since the fall of the Roman Empire in secret in 1988 and presented their results for the first time on Wednesday.

One of the scientists studying the remains, Professor Frank Rühli, said: "Thanks to the results from 1988 up until today, we can say with great likelihood that we are dealing with the skeleton of Charlemagne."

From studying the dimensions of the upper arm, thigh and shin bones, scientists have built up a picture of the man behind the skeleton, and it matches descriptions of Charlemagne.

At 1.84 metres (six feet), he was unusually tall for his time. The team also estimated his weight at around 78 kilograms, giving him a slim body mass index of around 23.

Previous estimates had placed his height at between 1.79 metres and 1.92 metres.

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.de ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; charlemagne; france; germany; godsgravesglyphs; holyromanempire; kingofthefranks
The completely restored sarcophagus of Emperor Charles the Great, or Charlemagne, (742-814) with scenes of the mythological story of Proserpina's kidnapping was displayed in Berlin's museum for antiquity and Byzantine art. (REUTERS)

The completely restored sarcophagus of Emperor Charles the Great, or Charlemagne, (742-814) with scenes of the mythological story of Proserpina's kidnapping was displayed in Berlin's museum for antiquity and Byzantine art. (REUTERS)

1 posted on 02/05/2014 7:54:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Where is Holger Danske when you need him?


2 posted on 02/05/2014 7:58:16 PM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: SunkenCiv
bones and bone fragments [...] came from a tall, thin, older man.

Yup. Only one of those in France/Germany over the last twelve centuries. I'm convinced. Excellent forensic work. Mon Beret ist auf zum dir.

3 posted on 02/05/2014 7:59:38 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

4 posted on 02/05/2014 8:07:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ohhh. That’s pretty. I’d plant flowers in that.


5 posted on 02/05/2014 8:18:21 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SunkenCiv
King of the franks ay?


6 posted on 02/05/2014 8:39:30 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hey, leave my ancestor’s bones alone!


7 posted on 02/05/2014 9:16:57 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: SunkenCiv

They did not say if there were any cloth or metal remains.


8 posted on 02/05/2014 9:21:32 PM PST by Rockpile
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To: NonValueAdded

Mine, too!


9 posted on 02/05/2014 9:21:46 PM PST by madison10
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To: NonValueAdded

Hi Cousin!
He is my great grandfather to! 36th (twice, by Louis and Pepin, on my mother’s side), 35th (by Hiltrude DeAlsace on my mother’s side) and 33rd (by Louis on my father’s side


10 posted on 02/05/2014 9:26:51 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Noumenon

That old fellow? Seems they trundled him away. I'm afraid he fell asleep on the job, and that simply won't do, not in Denmark.

11 posted on 02/05/2014 9:32:09 PM PST by BlueDragon ("the fans are staying away from the ballpark...in droves" Yogi Berra)
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To: NonValueAdded

You too? All my data says he was my ancestor. Does that make us cousins?


12 posted on 02/05/2014 9:33:04 PM PST by WVNan
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To: madison10

Next thing you know we’ll be having a “family” reunion. :o)


13 posted on 02/05/2014 9:34:09 PM PST by WVNan
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I was thinking it would make a great bathtub.


14 posted on 02/05/2014 9:35:43 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: SunkenCiv

You mean there’s a chance Charlemagne had fake bones inside him?


15 posted on 02/05/2014 10:34:43 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Emperor Charles the Great, or Charlemagne

. . . or Karl der Große.

16 posted on 02/05/2014 10:36:28 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: WVNan

yep, distant cousins


17 posted on 02/05/2014 11:59:33 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Charlemagne is one of the five greatest men of the West.


18 posted on 02/06/2014 12:12:56 AM PST by Argus
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To: TigersEye

That too!


19 posted on 02/06/2014 4:16:10 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SunkenCiv

26 years of research and the result is a resounding... “likely.” Ho-hum.

In any case, he’s still dead.


20 posted on 02/06/2014 6:06:13 AM PST by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: SubMareener

Careful there ... you’re going to provide DUmmies the proof they desperately crave that there are a lot of inbreds on FreeRepublic.


21 posted on 02/06/2014 6:14:30 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: FredZarguna

...came from a tall, thin, older man.

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Your comment is justified considering how poorly written the piece is, but the source article tells us that nearly all of these bones were found in the emperor’s sarcophagus.


22 posted on 02/06/2014 7:53:55 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: SubMareener

I read in a genealogy magazine that somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the population in western Europe are direct descendants of Charlemagne.


23 posted on 02/06/2014 7:57:33 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ops33

Which is probably true considering conditions in Europe at that time.


24 posted on 02/06/2014 8:22:14 AM PST by WVNan
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To: Bigg Red

I thought I was going to read an interesting bit on forensic archeology for an informed layman and instead was treated to an outtake from My Weekly Reader.But to be honest, I didn’t find the article at the link to be all that much better.


25 posted on 02/06/2014 10:07:57 AM PST by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FredZarguna

Oh, I had the same experience. But I think “My Weekly Reader” would have been a few steps up from this monstrosity.

Seriously, I checked to see if I was reading a poor translation from some French news story when I read this gem:

The team first opened the sarcophagus of the first emperor in western Europe since the fall of the Roman Empire in secret in 1988 and presented their results for the first time on Wednesday.


26 posted on 02/06/2014 11:23:01 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: FredZarguna

Follow-up: Looks like our boy found this blurb and tried to rework it. Well, I guess we can be glad he wanted to avoid plagiarism.

http://www.archaeology.org/news/1782-140131-charlemagne-bones-sarcophagus


27 posted on 02/06/2014 11:26:29 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: SunkenCiv
This sounds like the old "Who is buried in Grant's Tomb" joke.

Seriously, though, that sarcophagus shows a high order of skill. I wonder who carved it?

The Carolingian chapel at Aachen Cathedral is an outstanding work of art in its own right. The Byzantine influence is quite evident.


28 posted on 02/06/2014 4:19:08 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Jeff Chandler

Or maybe imaginary?


29 posted on 02/06/2014 6:07:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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https://www.google.com/search?q=charlemagne%27s+descendants


30 posted on 02/06/2014 6:09:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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