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Declassified documents show Nixon warned of global warning 30 years ago
http://www.nydailynews.com ^ | Saturday, July 3, 2010, 4:00 AM | AP

Posted on 05/07/2014 11:40:19 AM PDT by stirrinthepuddin

Just heard Rush talk about this so I went and looked it up!

YORBA LINDA, Calif. — Documents released Friday by the Nixon Presidential Library show members of President Richard Nixon's inner circle discussing the possibilities of global warming more than 30 years ago.

Adviser Daniel Patrick Moynihan, notable as a Democrat in the administration, urged the administration to initiate a worldwide system of monitoring carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, decades before the issue of global warming came to the public's attention.

There is widespread agreement that carbon dioxide content will rise 25 percent by 2000, Moynihan wrote in a September 1969 memo.

"This could increase the average temperature near the earth's surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit," he wrote. "This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: agitprop; associatedpress; danielmoynihan; demagogicparty; doomsdaycult; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscare; memebuilding; newiceage; nixon; nixonadministratoin; nixonlegacy; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; patrickmoynihan; prophecy; richardnixon; sinsagainstgaia
I know it's old news but .. it seems relevant?
1 posted on 05/07/2014 11:40:19 AM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: stirrinthepuddin
Wait! What?

You Lefties (I'm talking to you stirrinthepuddin) hate Nixon!

Why would you believe anything he ever said?

2 posted on 05/07/2014 11:41:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Gee, they were idiots even back then.


3 posted on 05/07/2014 11:43:09 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Nixon also installed price controls on oil. Nixon did a lot of dumb things.


4 posted on 05/07/2014 11:43:46 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Unless Nixon had set up some sort of Shadow Government, he was not president 30 years ago.


5 posted on 05/07/2014 11:43:52 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: stirrinthepuddin

I know it’s old news but .. it seems relevant?

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No. Posting the four year old article seems relevant only to you moniker, and that isn’t pudding you are trying to stir.


6 posted on 05/07/2014 11:45:36 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: PapaNew

Nixon also installed price controls on oil. Nixon did a lot of dumb things.

He took us off the gold standard also didn’t he?


7 posted on 05/07/2014 11:45:38 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, oh, wait.

Since they did hate Nixon, for all the wrong reasons, doesn't that explain why the left promoted "the next ice age is here" and "nuclear winter" during the 1970s?

8 posted on 05/07/2014 11:46:21 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Yet for all their hand wringing and gloom and doom, the temperature rose only about 0.1 degrees F and the ocean rose by a millimeter or two.


9 posted on 05/07/2014 11:47:12 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

“What difference — at this point, what difference does it make?”


10 posted on 05/07/2014 11:49:19 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: stirrinthepuddin
"This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."

If Washington had paid more attention to the growing Islamic Storm during the following 30 years, perhaps part of New York & some residents would still be around today…

11 posted on 05/07/2014 11:51:40 AM PDT by mikrofon (Humpday BUMP-ty)
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To: Calvin Locke
LOL! Good point. But I think it had more to do with the fact that we had a series of relatively cold winters at that time and they thought the shtick would be an easier sale.

What isn't funny is the prescription for global cooling was exactly the same prescription being pushed for global warming: give the left control of the economy and industry and they will fix it.

12 posted on 05/07/2014 11:51:49 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Oliviaforever

In office. January 20, 1969 – August 9, 1974.


13 posted on 05/07/2014 11:52:13 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Calvin Locke

Since they did hate Nixon, for all the wrong reasons, doesn’t that explain why the left promoted “the next ice age is here” and “nuclear winter” during the 1970s?

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Global famine too. And ‘gay’ was a choice back then.


14 posted on 05/07/2014 11:53:29 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: lonestar

You forgot the part where Nixon was President during Christmas 68, when he sent John Kerry on his secret mission in Cambodia.


15 posted on 05/07/2014 11:53:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Yeah, and he implemented wage and price controls too.

Remind me why he was considered a great anti-Communist again?


16 posted on 05/07/2014 11:54:07 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dfwgator

My bad!


17 posted on 05/07/2014 11:55:56 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin; All

I understand that Nixon signed the bill that established the EPA. The problem is that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to protect intrastate environments. So Congress had no constitutional authority to make the bill apply to intrastate land imo.


18 posted on 05/07/2014 11:56:38 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What?

I didn’t say I believed it!

I said it was relevant because it is just one more tool to use against the Global Warming crowd!

You have jumped to a conclusion that I support this cr@p and you are wrong!

Rush is not a ‘leftie’ is he?


19 posted on 05/07/2014 11:57:03 AM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What?

I didn’t say I believed it!

I said it was relevant because it is just one more tool to use against the Global Warming crowd!

You have jumped to a conclusion that I support this cr@p and you are wrong!

Rush is not a ‘leftie’ is he?


20 posted on 05/07/2014 11:57:03 AM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Sorry for the double post!


21 posted on 05/07/2014 11:59:07 AM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: Amendment10

This is an example of why I, as a nOOb was warned about walking softly in this forum.

There are many good folks here but there are others who seem to want to jump on a poster the very first chance they get?

If a person is not clear on a post, it is usually good manners to ask the person to explain themselves first .. isn’t it?


22 posted on 05/07/2014 12:02:58 PM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: mountainlion

Yes, but at the time a lot of people, even Milton Friedman, thought that was a good idea. But it wasn’t IMO.


23 posted on 05/07/2014 12:06:53 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: stirrinthepuddin
Global warming, global cooling, climate change, and now "climate disruption" have been with us since the beginning of time. As long as there are drooling and babbling politicians, they'll always be with us.
24 posted on 05/07/2014 12:09:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin
This is an example of why I, as a nOOb was warned about walking softly in this forum.

Walking softly isn't necessary, in fact by being as clear & direct as possible you'll be better off.

Oh, and thick skin helps too.

25 posted on 05/07/2014 12:11:54 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: stirrinthepuddin

“Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington,”

Put in SF and we have a winner.


26 posted on 05/07/2014 12:15:47 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

my reply is nixon was given bad information on a number of things.


27 posted on 05/07/2014 12:36:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

There is widespread agreement that carbon dioxide content will rise 25 percent by 2000, Moynihan wrote in a September 1969 memo.

“This could increase the average temperature near the earth’s surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit,” he wrote. “This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter.”

Aaaaaand, you Fk Tards have been proven wong at very twurn....


28 posted on 05/07/2014 12:58:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Lighten up Francis.

and Toughen up.

Baptism is given to all nOOb’s.

Ahmni Dahmni....


29 posted on 05/07/2014 12:59:51 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

I recall Charlton Heston complaining about how hot it was at night because of “the greenhouse effect” in the 1973 movie Soylent Green.


30 posted on 05/07/2014 1:06:55 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

“This could increase the average temperature near the earth’s surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit,” he wrote. “This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter.”

Thats right. Get our hopes up and then smash them all to pieces.


31 posted on 05/07/2014 1:10:41 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Nixon gifted us the EPA. There are few agencies that have harmed Americans less.


32 posted on 05/07/2014 1:41:12 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

headline sux.... missing the word “was” ..nothing in the article about Nixon saying anything.
And Moynihan was a RAT.


33 posted on 05/07/2014 1:45:02 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ----> Fredo smart)
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To: stirrinthepuddin; All
This is an example of why I, as a nOOb was warned about walking softly in this forum.

First, welcome to FR stirrinthepuddin.

Next, don't let my critiques of articles scare you away. In fact, the following is an example of how I typically start a post which I evidently should have done in your thread.

Thank you for referencing that article stirrinthepuddin. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

The problem is that many journalists are evidently not aware of the federal government's constitutionally limited powers. Consequently they don't dig deep enough in their analysis of the federal government's constitutionally indefensible expansions of power, the EPA a good example of that.

Note that in order for Nixon to establish the EPA that he needed to do the following in compliance with the Constitution's Article V. Nixon needed to inspire Congress to propose an appropriate environmental amendment to the Constitution to the states for ratification. And if the states had chosen to ratify "Nixon's" amendment then Congress would have had the constitutional authority to legislatively address intrastate environmental issues and Nixon would have been a hero.

So the EPA is not the concern of my critique as much as it was wrongly established outside the framework of the Constitution by the Constitution-ignoring legislative and executive branches.

34 posted on 05/07/2014 1:49:03 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: 1010RD
Nixon gifted us the EPA. There are few agencies that have harmed Americans less.

I think you meant "more," but I share the sentiment.

Nixon was a political opportunist who said "Run right to win the nomination, and left to win the election."

35 posted on 05/07/2014 1:54:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Welcome to Free Republic!


36 posted on 05/07/2014 1:57:11 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No I meant “less”. All the federal regulatory agencies cause harm and are unconstitutional. Congress cannot delegate the authority to write law.


37 posted on 05/07/2014 1:58:02 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Why would somebody talking to Nixon in the 80s be classified? Oh wait, the writer can’t do simple math.


38 posted on 05/07/2014 1:59:48 PM PDT by discostu (Seriously, do we no longer do "phrasing"?!)
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To: 1010RD
There are few agencies that have harmed Americans less (than the EPA).

There are few agencies that have harmed Americans more (than the EPA).

When you use "less" it sounds like a lot of agencies have harmed Americans more than the EPA, meaning there are worse agencies than the EPA.

39 posted on 05/07/2014 2:03:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: stirrinthepuddin
I had the piss beat out of me when I was a NooB, don't take it to seriously. Remember never get angry and be civil, a thick skin helps.
40 posted on 05/07/2014 2:22:34 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: stirrinthepuddin
I know it's old news but .. it seems relevant?

It shows Nixon was a visionary, only understood by Democrats. /S

41 posted on 05/07/2014 2:25:47 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Oh look, more agitprop and misdirection involving Richard Nixon.
Adviser Daniel Patrick Moynihan, [IOW, not Nixon] notable as a Democrat in the administration, urged the administration to initiate a worldwide system of monitoring carbon dioxide in the atmosphere... "There is widespread agreement that carbon dioxide content will rise 25 percent by 2000... This could increase the average temperature near the earth's surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit... This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."
That text is boilerplate, either originated with, or was later adopted as his own, by the late Carl Sagan, faux scientist and demagogue, whose legacy is still stalking our liberties.
42 posted on 05/07/2014 3:09:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mountainlion

Nixon also pushed for socialized medicine. A Rino.


43 posted on 05/07/2014 4:05:49 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well, it made sense to me when I typed it and I really did mean “less” and their are worse agencies than the EPA. I’m sorry it didn’t come across correctly. Thanks.

I am considering getting a Jay Carney account at FR. That way I could say dumb things or speak incorrectly and just blame my “spokesman”. ;-]


44 posted on 05/08/2014 6:28:21 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Pearls Before Swine; stirrinthepuddin
"It shows Nixon was visionary"

Nixon was very much of a visionary, he created the modern republican party.

While Nixon was prez, the group that would become known as NeoConservatives would leave the dem party to become republicans. They were then led by Irving Kristol, who passed the NeoCon throne down to his son, Bill Kristol.

Nixon also implemented his Southern Strategy, which became GOP policy to bring the Cultural Populists out of the dem party into the GOP.

The NeoCons and rightwing populists are very powerful in the modern GOP

45 posted on 05/08/2014 1:49:49 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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