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Earliest military camp discovered at Carnuntum
Austrian Times ^ | Wednesday, June 18, 2014 | unattributed

Posted on 06/21/2014 2:10:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Archaeologists have discovered one of the earliest Roman military camps in the Carnuntum on the Danube near Vienna.

The discovery of the extensive military camp, that is believed to be the size of six football pitches, was done using a high tech radar machine that can detect objects deep into the ground.

The camp was unearthed at the Archaeological Park Carnuntum, located in Lower Austria between Vienna and the Slovakian capital Bratislava. It was discovered near to the remains of an ancient village and researchers believe it is probably the earliest military camp at Carnuntum.

The discovery follows that made a few years ago in the same area of a colossal Roman gladiator school that once stood on the banks of the River Danube.

The remains were also discovered using innovative non-invasive archaeological techniques such as aerial mapping and ground penetrating lasers.

The ground radar enables researchers to three-dimensionally map the remains of the Roman city, by monitoring the electromagnetic waves on a computer screen. By the end of 2014 they hope to cover a further four square kilometres using this method.

(Excerpt) Read more at austriantimes.at ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: austria; carnuntum; godsgravesglyphs; romanempire

from Archaeology mag's website:
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1 posted on 06/21/2014 2:10:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: 240B; 75thOVI; Adder; albertp; asgardshill; At the Window; bitt; blu; BradyLS; cajungirl; ...
A good weekly Digest ping, and for that matter, practically the only thing all week. :')

2 posted on 06/21/2014 2:12:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Or as Obama’s mentor Jeremiah Wright would say, “evidence discovered of origins of White European Imperialist War Machine”


3 posted on 06/21/2014 2:13:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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https://www.google.com/maps/@48.113325,16.861693,11z


4 posted on 06/21/2014 2:16:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow what era was this ? Thanks !


5 posted on 06/21/2014 2:22:28 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Fascinating What is the time frame...it doesn't say..
6 posted on 06/21/2014 2:25:23 PM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: SunkenCiv

Can I get on your ping list...tanks.


7 posted on 06/21/2014 2:26:43 PM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: Dog

5:27 PM .. Eastern ... or 1727


8 posted on 06/21/2014 2:27:24 PM PDT by knarf (brooklyn bridge)
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To: knarf

Smart ass....:-)


9 posted on 06/21/2014 2:31:01 PM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: mosesdapoet; SunkenCiv; Dog

The archaeologists believe the camp dates to about 6 AD, which, if confirmed, could make it the winter camp of Emperor Tiberius.
Carnuntum eventually became a city of 50-thousand people and a major military and trade outpost linking the far-flung Roman empire’s Asian boundaries to its central and northern European lands.
It was one of the few Roman sites in Europe that was not built over during the Middle Ages, and has now become an archaeological park, which attracts some 160,000 visitors every year.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/archaeology/10912474/Remains-of-Roman-army-base-found-in-Austria.html


10 posted on 06/21/2014 2:32:25 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. ........dot removal in progress.......)
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To: SunkenCiv

Is one of the Roman regional “capitals” at the start of Rome Total War: Barbarian Invasion


11 posted on 06/21/2014 2:51:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah, the Romans just waltzed into Austria.


12 posted on 06/21/2014 4:11:52 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: moose07
The archaeologists believe the camp dates to about 6 AD, which, if confirmed, could make it the winter camp of Emperor Tiberius.

Dang. Can you imagine standing there? I'm getting chills thinking about it.

13 posted on 06/21/2014 4:58:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: Tax-chick

For that length of time....no. :)
They must have been totally frozen to the bone.


14 posted on 06/21/2014 5:05:54 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. ........dot removal in progress.......)
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To: moose07

Oh, good point. Winter camp. But maybe it was during a global-warming period? And there was plenty of forest to burn in the firepits.


15 posted on 06/21/2014 5:06:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: Tax-chick

“Global-warming period”...this is Austria, nothing interupts the Skiing.

There are accounts of horrible winters around those years, but who knows.
Imagine how much forest it would take to heat that place.


16 posted on 06/21/2014 5:16:25 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. ........dot removal in progress.......)
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To: SunkenCiv
Nice artist's concept CGI "reconstruction" picture. That's a cute bit of artwork; now folks will believe that tents remained standing all those centuries... '-)

Now, show us the actual GPR & LIDAR (if used) raw data.

At least their press-hype has got them a GPR rig transported on the front of a motorized buggy. The ones I've used are on a hand-pushed cart... '-)

Typical humorous "journalistic" reporting: "ground penetrating lasers"... <LOL!!!>

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The archaeologists, no doubt, did some great work. What a shame to let the "popular press" butcher it like that...

17 posted on 06/21/2014 6:56:25 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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The graphic comes from Archaeology magazine, not sure how popular they are. :’)


18 posted on 06/21/2014 8:22:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
The graphic is beautifully done -- almost too beautifully... What I would like to see is the GPR plots on which the graphic was based.

One would think that there is still sufficient extant evidence of at one section of the earthwork wall -- and of its position and outline -- to justify the dimensions, rounded corners, etc. as depicted.

Also, one would expect that evidence of tent footprints and tent spacing -- as well as of the fact that they were laid out in sections as shown -- showed up in GPR and/or excavation data.

With that info, you could map the known tent sites, etc., and 'fill in the blanks" using CGI.

If you ever run across more of that actual data, I would really appreciate getting a look at it!

I don't doubt at all that the Roman military were sufficiently organized and disciplined to lay out such a precise camp. What I'd like to see is the data that allowed (probably) sparse GPR readings to be extrapolated to create that detailed graphic. (GPR has never worked quite that well for me...) '-)

19 posted on 06/21/2014 8:51:18 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: SunkenCiv
We used to get Archaeology and Biblical Archaeology Review. Fascinating stuff.
20 posted on 06/22/2014 5:55:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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