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Rush Limbaugh: Fred Thompson is the one, true conservative
Brain Droppings ^ | November 30, 2007 | Bill C.

Posted on 11/30/2007 10:48:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Among the top tier Republican candidates, Rush says that only Fred has been a consistent conservative. You have been given your marching orders. Now you know who to vote for.

RUSH: …the genuine moderate as opposed to conservative aspects of three of the top-tier, four of the top-tier candidates were on full-fledged display last night. There was one candidate who did not display any moderateness or liberalism or have any of his past forays into those areas displayed, and that candidate was Fred Thompson. … …we have a campaign now where most of the candidates are not genuine conservatives. They may be saying they are, but in their past they have done some things that are not conservative in any way, shape, manner, or form — and I think a lot of those things are being overlooked even by friends of mine in the conservative media because the obsession is Hillary…


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Rush nails it!
1 posted on 11/30/2007 10:48:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rudy Giuliani campaign team backtracks on tryst talk
2 posted on 11/30/2007 11:04:17 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rush breaking out with some truth concerning Fred and his conservatism, might be too little too late to help rescue the GOP from an historic blunder in the making. If Republicans don't wake up soon and stop the GOP`s leftward lurch, it could be another 40 years lost in the political wilderness.

NO liberals, NO rinos, NO Rooty, NO Romney!

3 posted on 11/30/2007 11:09:15 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’ve never watched or listened to Rush, but apparently the man has some clout. Any sane person knows...it’s Fred or it’s a liberal or uncertain candidate in our nomination.

I’m for certainty and the closest thing to my values is Fred. I believe he’ll do his best in making sure this country goes the right way. Reagan didn’t tilt everything to our advantage, but he lead is in a direction...we had to continue on that coarse. We always have to.

This nomination will show if we really want and have the courage of those convictions or if we’re divided among our impracticalities and delusions.

4 posted on 11/30/2007 11:15:01 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guilty of not reading past the Title.

Go Duncan Hunter.

or as the other part of our family would cheer Go Mitt.


5 posted on 11/30/2007 11:23:04 PM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I certainly hope this helps Fred get his message on-track, because that's what he needs most--to get his communications department in order.

He has the right ideas. Like W, though, he has a terrible way of getting them across.

6 posted on 11/30/2007 11:33:33 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (...sigh...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pretty hard to argue with this. Would like to hear more from Fred overall and more about his history of voting etc. In the big picture of things Fred pretty much just showed up at the carnival so let's atleast give some people some time to get to know him and his record, before ripping them too hard.

If people are forgetting what a real conservative candidate sounds like Fred needs to be out there as much as possible in every important way to remind them. If he is a shoe in as a conservative candidate on our end, he needs to convince them too that he can beat Hilary. The job is all Fred's, his team, and his supporters right now and I wish them all the best.

We need not compromise. Our message is solid. It just needs to get out there. Strong on defense. Fiscal conservative. Strongly against illegal immigration and conservative on social issues. It is not that difficult to understand and that simple clear message needs to get out there and prove it can beat the Clintoon wacko machine.

No need to blame others. Fred is the one that chose to show up later. Now give the people a chance to hear him and a reason to believe in him. Do you blame people for being scared of the damage Hilary will do? We all are. So let's agree on this vital concern and remind the conservatives of who should be the man for the job or sell them.

I have been keeping my eye and ear out for Fred and I still don't know much about him. Me thinks it is time for some strong campaigning.

7 posted on 11/30/2007 11:37:07 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet
>>>>>Would like to hear more from Fred overall and more about his history of voting etc.

Okay. Hope this helps. Pass it along.

Taxes, Spending, Budget: Fiscal Conservatism

BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT: Passage of the joint resolution to pass a constitutional amendment to balance the budget by the year 2002 or two years after ratification by the states. Rejected 65-35, March 2, 1995. Fred supported the amendment.

LINE-ITEM VETO: Passage of the bill to provide the president with the ability to veto individual line items in an appropriations bill, targeted tax breaks in a revenue bill, or new entitlement spending. Approved 69-29, March 23, 1995. Fred supported the bill.

TAX CUTS: Gramm amendment to the budget resolution to provide tax cuts similar to those provided by the House, including a $500-per child credit, a reduction in the capital gains tax rate, an expansion of IRAs, and the elimination of the marriage penalty in the tax code. Rejected 31-69, May 23, 1995. Fred supported the amendment.

BALANCED BUDGET ACT. Passage of the bill to balance the budget over seven years, by reducing projected spending by $894 billion and cutting taxes by $245 billion. Approved 52-47, November 17, 1995. Fred supported the bill.

TAX LIMITATION: SConRes 57 (CQ Senate Vote 128), FY 1997 Budget Resolution. Exon (D-NE) motion to table (kill) the Kyl (R-AZ) amendment to express the sense of the Senate that fundamental tax reform should be accompanied by a constitutional amendment to require a supermajority of Congress to approve a tax increase. Motion agreed to 59-41, May 22, 1996. Fred opposed the Exon motion.

SOCIAL SECURITY TAX DEDUCTION: SConRes 57 (CQ Senate Vote 140), FY 1997 Budget Resolution. Ashcroft (R-MO) amendment to allow a tax deduction for the Social Security payroll tax and to offset the costs by decreasing discretionary and mandatory spending. Rejected 43-57, May 22, 1996. Fred supported the Ashcroft amendment.

MAINTAINING BUDGETARY FIREWALLS: SConRes 57 (CQ Senate Vote 147), FY 1997 Budget Resolution. Domenici (R-NM) motion to table (kill) the Bumpers (D-AR) amendment to abolish the "firewall" between defense and domestic discretionary spending. The "firewall" provides an essential defense against liberals’ attempts to shift funds from defense accounts to non-defense domestic discretionary accounts. Motion agreed to 57-41, May 23, 1996. Fred supported the Domenici motion.

TAX CUTS: SConRes 57 (CQ Senate Vote 151), FY 1997 Budget Resolution. Domenici (R-NM) motion to table (kill) the Feingold (D-WI) amendment to eliminate the $122 billion provided for tax cuts over six years. Motion agreed to 57-43, May 23, 1996. Fred supported the Domenici motion.

BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT. SJRes1 (roll call vote 24). Balanced-Budget Constitutional Amendment. Passage of the joint resolution to propose a constitutional amendment to balance the budget by the year 2002 or two years after ratification by three-fourths of the states, whichever is later. Three-fifths of the entire House and Senate would be required to approve deficit spending or an increase in the public debt limit. A simple majority could waive the requirement in times of war or when the United States is engaged in a military conflict that causes an imminent national security threat. Rejected 66-34, March 4, 1997. (A two-thirds majority vote of those present and voting is required to pass a joint resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution.) Fred supported the amendment.

FUTURE DEFICIT SPENDING PROHIBITION. SConRes27, FY 1998 Budget Resolution (roll call vote 83). Ashcroft (R-MO) motion to waive the Budget Act with respect to the Lautenberg (D-NJ) point of order against his amendment to require a three-fifths vote of both Houses of Congress for passage of any legislation that increases the deficit after FY 2002. Motion rejected 41-58, May 22, 1997. A three-fifths majority vote (60) of the total Senate is required to waive the Budget Act. (Subsequently, the chair upheld the Lautenberg point of order and the amendment was defeated.) Fred supported the motion.

TAX CUT/SPENDING FREEZE. SConRes27, FY 1998 Budget Resolution (roll call vote 90). Domenici (R-NM) motion to table (kill) the Grams (R-MN) amendment to require the $220 billion Congressional Budget Office revenue windfall be applied to deficit reduction and tax relief, and to freeze non-defense discretionary spending. Motion agreed to 73-27, May 23, 1997. Fred opposed the motion to table.

NANNY STATE TAX CUTS. S949, FY 1998 Budget Reconciliation (roll call vote 139). Gramm (R-TX) amendment to eliminate the requirement that the $500-per-child tax credit be invested in a tuition program or education individual retirement account, and let parents make their own decisions on how to use the tax credit. Rejected 46-54, June 27, 1997. Fred supported the amendment.

INFLATION INDEXING. S949, FY 1998 Budget Reconciliation (roll call vote 159). Allard (R-CO) amendment to require that capital gains be indexed for inflation. Rejected 41-57, June 27, 1997. Fred supported the amendment.

TAX CUTS. SconRes86 (roll call vote 55). McCain (R-AZ) motion to waive the Budget Act with respect to the Lautenberg (D-NJ) point of order against the Coverdell (R-GA) amendment. Coverdell's amendment would reduce cut taxes by $195.5 billion over five years by raising the income thresholds for the 15 percent and 28 percent tax brackets. Motion rejected 38-62: R 38-17, April 01, 1998. A three-fifths majority vote (60) of the total Senate is required to waive the Budget Act. (Subsequently, the chair upheld the point of order, and the amendment fell.) Fred supported the motion to waive the point of order.

SOCIAL SECURITY PERSONAL RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS. SconRes 86 (roll call vote 56). Roth (R-DE) amendment to express the sense of the Senate that the Senate Finance Committee should in 1998 report legislation that would dedicate the federal budget surplus to the establishment of Social Security "personal retirement accounts." Adopted 51-49, April 01, 1998. Fred supported the amendment.

TAX LIMITATION CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - Passage, H.J.Res. 37 (Roll Call Vote No. 90). April 15, 1999 - Passage of the joint resolution to propose a constitutional amendment to require a two-thirds majority vote of the House and Senate to pass any legislation that increases federal revenues by more than a "de minimis," or insignificant, amount. The exact definition of "de minimis" would be left to Congress. The resolution was rejected 229-199, 15 Apr. 1999. A two-thirds majority of those present and voting (286 in this case) is required to pass a joint resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution. Fred supported the resolution.

TAX CUT PACKAGE - Passage, HR 2488 (Roll Call Vote No. 333). Passage of the bill to reduce federal taxes by $792 billion over 10 years. The measure would reduce individual income tax rates by 10 percent over a 10-year period, contingent upon annual progress in reducing interest on the nation's debt. It would reduce the "marriage penalty" by increasing the standard deduction for married couples to double that for singles; cut the capital gains tax rate for individuals from 20 percent to 15 percent for property held for more than one year; gradually lower the corporate capital gains tax rate from 35 percent to 30 percent by 2005; reduce the estate and gift tax rates until they are completely eliminated in 2009; accelerate the phase-in of a 100 percent deduction for health insurance premiums for the self-employed, and allow all taxpayers to deduct health care and long-term care insurance if employers pay 50 percent or less of the premium; increase the annual contribution limit for Education Savings Accounts from $500 to $2,000 and permit tax-free withdrawals to pay for public and private elementary and secondary tuition and expenses. Bill passed 223-208, 22 July 1999. Fred supported the bill.

TAX CUTS, S.Con.Res. 101 (Roll Call Vote No. 68) The Senate defeated an amendment deleting all tax cuts in the Congressional Budget Resolution. The vote was 44-56, 7 Apr. 2000. Fred opposed the amendment.

FISCAL 2001 BUDGET RESOLUTION – Adoption, H.Con.Res. 290 (Roll Call Vote No. 79) The Senate adopted a five-year budget plan that includes $147.1 billion in tax cuts. The vote was 51-45, 7 Apr. 2000. Fred supported this budget.

GAS TAX SUSPENSION – Cloture, S. 2285 (Roll Call Vote No. 80) The Senate failed to limit debate on a bill that would suspend the 4.3 ¢/gallon federal gas tax surcharge from April 15 through Jan. 1, 2001. If the national average gas price reached $2/gallon, the remaining 14.1 ¢/gallon federal tax would also be suspended. The vote was 43-56, with 60 votes needed, 11 Apr. 2000. Fred supports efforts to lower the gas tax.

MARRIAGE PENALTY TAX – Cloture, HR 6 (Roll Call Vote No. 82) The Senate failed to limit debate on an amendment that would essentially eliminate the federal tax penalty on married couples. The vote was 53-45, with 60 votes needed, 13 Apr. 2000. Fred supported this effort to lessen the marriage penalty.

ESTATE TAX REPEAL. HR 8 (Roll Call Vote No. 180) The Senate voted down an amendment that would have maintained the “death” tax while easing its effect in some cases. The vote was 46-53, 13 July 2000. Fred supported the amendment.

GAS TAX SUSPENSION, HR 8 (Roll Call Vote No. 183) The Senate voted no to suspend the entire federal gas tax of 18.4 ¢/gallon for 150 days. The vote was 40-59, 13 July 2000. Fred supported the suspension.

TAXATION OF SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS, HR 8 (Roll Call Vote No. 188) The Senate voted to reduce the percentage of Social Security benefits that are taxable from 85 percent to 50 percent, which was the level up until 1993. The vote was 58-41, 13 July 2000. Fred supported the reduction.

ESTATE TAX REPEAL – Passage, HR 8 (Roll Call Vote No. 197) The Senate vote to phase out the “death” tax by 2010. The vote was 59-39, 14 July 2000. Fred supported the bill.

2001 INDIVIDUAL RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS. S. 420 (Roll Call Vote No. 21 ) Sessions (R-AL) motion to protect individual retirement accounts from limitations imposed during bankruptcy proceedings. The bill was defeated (61-37) Fred supported this bill.

2001 BUDGET RESOLUTION CAPPING SPENDING. H. Con. Res. 83 (Roll Call Vote No. 98 ) Adoption of the final version of the Budget Resolution, calling for approximately $1.35 trillion in tax cuts through fiscal 2011, including a $100 billion stimulus package. "Discretionary" spending was capped at $661.3 billion. The bill was passed (53-47) Fred supported this bill.

2001 CAPITAL GAINS TAX RATE REDUCTION. HR 1836 (Roll Call Vote No. 115 ) Gregg (R-NH) motion to allow consideration of his amendment to the tax cut bill. His amendment would provide for a temporary reduction in the maximum capital gains rate from 20 percent to 15 percent, to stimulate the economy. The bill was defeated (47-51) Fred supported this bill.

2001 TAX CUT BILL HR 1836 (Roll Call Vote No. 170 ) Adoption of the final version of the tax cut bill, reducing taxes by $1.35 trillion through 2010 through income tax rate cuts, relief of the "marriage penalty," a phase-out of the federal estate tax, doubling the child tax credit, and providing incentives. The bill was defeated (58-33) Fred supported this bill.

CAPS ON GOVERNMENT SPENDING. HR 4775 (Roll Call 133) The motion would extend for five years caps on federal spending and establish other procedural controls on federal spending. ACU supported this budget discipline measure, which failed on a 49-49 vote (60 votes were required) on 5 June 2002. The bill was defeated (49-49) Fred supported this bill.

DEATH TAX REPEAL PERMANENT. HR 8 (Roll Call 151) The motion would make the repeal of the estate or death tax passed in 2001 permanent. ACU supported this effort, which received a 54-44 vote majority on 12 June 2002, but Senate rules require 60 votes under the Budget Act. The bill was defeated (54-44) Fred supported this bill.

If you'd like more, just say so.

8 posted on 11/30/2007 11:46:16 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: GOP Poet
Fred is a self-professed, long time federalist and by definition that means he supports limited government. You don't get more conservative than that. Fred wants to resurrect Reagan's Executive Order #12612, which ordered each government entity look at ways to adhere to the Founder's ideas of original intent, aka. federalism.

"A good first step would be to codify the Executive Order on Federalism first signed by President Ronald Reagan. That Executive Order, first revoked by President Clinton, then modified to the point of uselessness, required agencies to respect the principle of the Tenth Amendment when formulating policies and implementing the laws passed by Congress. It preserved the division of responsibilities between the states and the federal government envisioned by the Framers of the Constitution. It was a fine idea that should never have been revoked. The next president should put it right back in effect, and see to it that the rightful authority of state and local governments is respected."

~~~ Fred Thompson, LINK

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President Reagan`s Executive Order #12612: Federalism: October 26, 1987:

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, and in order to restore the division of governmental responsibilities between the national government and the States that was intended by the Framers of the Constitution and to ensure that the principles of federalism established by the Framers guide the Executive departments and agencies in the formulation and implementation of policies, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Sec. 2.:
(a) Federalism is rooted in the knowledge that our political liberties are best assured by limiting the size and scope of the national government.

9 posted on 11/30/2007 11:50:28 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

Hey thanks Reagan man. Very cool. Had no idea. Will check out the link, too.


10 posted on 12/01/2007 2:06:48 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Reagan Man

[..stop the GOP`s leftward lurch, it could be another 40 years lost in the political wilderness.]

The GOP party is dead.


11 posted on 12/01/2007 3:58:29 AM PST by kindred (I am voting conservatives like Hunter,or Third Party. No vote for Rudy or other rinos.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The RINO’s, MSM and Marxists (liberals) are EXTREMELY afraid of Fred because they KNOW that most Christians in this country support him and what he stands for.
12 posted on 12/01/2007 4:17:30 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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To: Global2010
Well Hunter is a 50% conservative, where as mittwitt is 98% liberal, don’t know where that leaves you.
13 posted on 12/01/2007 5:03:13 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat
Duncan..

KV is for Mitt.

Where it eventually leaves me is voting for who ever it comes down to on the (R) ticket in 2008.

BTW Who is running on the Liberterian ticket? Just curious.

Could be worse we could throw away our 2 votes and go for Alan Keyes.

Also does anyone have the link to the State by State Donations?

I forgot to save it last time I saw it posted here many months ago.

14 posted on 12/01/2007 5:51:08 AM PST by Global2010 ( Hmmmmmmm)
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To: GOP Poet

GOP Poet wrote: “I have been keeping my eye and ear out for Fred and I still don’t know much about him.”

Here ya go:

http://fredipedia-us.blogspot.com/
http://fredthompson101.blogspot.com/
http://fredthompsonwarroom.blogspot.com/
http://www.fredthompsonpresidency.blogspot.com/
http://fred08.com/About.aspx#
http://www.fred08.com/Principles/PrinciplesSummary.aspx
http://www.fred08.com/Principles/PrinciplesSummary.aspx?View=Principles
http://www.fred08.com/Principles/PrinciplesSummary.aspx?View=WhitePapers

This should fill in a lot those blanks!


15 posted on 12/01/2007 7:03:29 AM PST by Josh Painter ("Managers are people who leaders hire." - Fred Thompson)
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To: Josh Painter
One way or the other, we can help convert the unbelievers to FRED’s camp. He sure came to the right place for his answers.

Who does not listen to RUSH? FRED THOMPSON will show a slow, steady surge to the front of the pack all over the Country. Rudy would be a nightmare with his history and background just now beginning to rear its ugly head. It will get steadily worse, not better. The MSM is saving the best for last...like all the photos out there of Rudy dressed in drag.

16 posted on 12/01/2007 8:13:10 AM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER. A LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just thought you ought to know FRED is up to 14 on Rasmussen this morning.


17 posted on 12/01/2007 8:17:55 AM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER. A LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: kindred
>>>>>The GOP party is dead.

IMHO, its a real close call. Lets say for the time being the GOP is on full life support. Hanging on, clinging to its conservative roots. This election will be a decision on what direction Republicans want to go for the next 20 years. An obvious choice between more social liberalism we've seen creeping into GOP domestic policy for the last seven years, or a return to policies that promote constitutional conservatism.

The GOP can do better than nominating a liberal rino or centrist moderate, who will do nothing to help advance the conservative cause.

GO Fred GO!!!

18 posted on 12/01/2007 8:53:15 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Bobbisox

“Just thought you ought to know FRED is up to 14 on Rasmussen this morning.”

Indeed he is. However, Huckabee is up to 15% nationally and is also the leader in Iowa right now.. Both candidates came out of the debate with gains. Thompson going negative on Huckabee will just push moral conservatives more solidly into Huckabee’s camp. Rush Limbaugh’s off handed endorsement also has the same effect on persons inclined to vote morals first.


19 posted on 12/01/2007 9:44:01 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
I truly believe that Conservatives are so hungry for a candidate that those in Iowa jumped to Huckabee from Romney and Rudy, and his peak will begin to drop. As they review his record more closely, they will gravitate to FRED and he will peak at just the right time.

The RUSH statements will eventually get out and the numbers will climb steadily over the next few weeks.

20 posted on 12/01/2007 10:35:16 AM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER. A LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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