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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread) October 29, 2003
Various | October 29, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 10/28/2003 10:00:43 PM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Daily Thread 1 - October 29, 2003)

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Links to Previous Threads ( roughly from older to more current):

Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer: | August 28, 2003

TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts | Posted 09-21-03

TERRI SCHIAVO TO DIE IN ATTORNEY'S "DEATH FACTORY": SUNCOAST HOSPICE BOSS IS GEORGE FELOS... | Posted 11-24-02

Florida Woman to Be Allowed to Die Despite Family's Wishes | Posted 8/05/03

Terri (Schiavo) Hospitalized The Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation | Posted 8-15-03

JUSTICE IN AMERICA | Posted 8-20-03

Florida Supreme Court Denies Hearing in Euthanasia Case |Posted 8-23-03

Legal setbacks clear way for Schiavo starvation | Posted 8-25-03

Florida governor asks judge to delay removal of woman's feeding tube ) | 8-26-03

Florida Governor Asks Judge to Delay Removal of Woman's Feeding Tube | 8-26-03

Attorney: Jeb Bush letter only a 'good first step' | August 28, 2003 |

'Exit protocol' for brain-disabled woman? (Breaking - Schiavo) | Aug. 29, 2003 |

Disabled Woman Would Cry 'Help Me,' Caregivers Claim (Terri Schiavo) | Posted 9/03/03

Disabled woman would cry "help me" caregivers claim | 9/3/03

Another 9-11 date with death: Jane Chastain decries agonizing death planned for Terri Schiavo | Posted 9-4-03

AnnaZ's Interview w/ Bob Schindler, Jr. - Terri Schindler-Schiavo's brother [Rough Transcript] | Posted 10-6-03

Operation Jell-O Freep for Terri Schiavo | Posted 9-7-03

Enforcing the "Right to Die":The Case of Terri Schiavo Life Issues ^ | Posted 9-7-03

Schiavo's Date with Death | Posted 9-8-03

Court guardian to decide man's fate | Posted 9-8-03

Terri Schiavo’s Life and Death | Posted 9-16-03

Conflict of Interest Charged in Florida Euthanasia Case | Posted 9-17-03

Too thin a line between life, death for Schiavo | Posted 9-17-03

Judge Sets Date To End Life Support | Posted 9-18-03

Terri Schindler-Schiavo's Story on Bill O' Reilly NOW| Posted 9-18-03

Let Schiavo fade away, as so many others do | Posted 9-25-03

Hate Mail, Threats Go to Man With Judge's Name (Terri Shiavo case) | Posted 9-30-03

Florida AG intervenes in Schiavo lawsuit [Crist CHOOSES DEATH. What "Right to refuse" for Terri?] | 10-4-03

Fight over Florida woman's fate |10-5-03

Sign Freep For Terri | Posted 10-5-03

Jeb Bush steps in for Schindler-Schiavo | Posted 10-7-03

No Mercy in Florida| Posted 10-11-03

Sean Hannity Steps In: Terri Schindler Case (New Video) | Posted 10-13-03

Coast to Coast AM Live Thread (Terri Schindler Schiavo and "Slippery Slope") | Posted 10-14-03

Comatose woman will stop being fed (CNN lies, Terry not in a coma) | Posted 10-15-03

Comatose Woman's Feeding Tube Removed (Fox news repeats AP's lie) | Posted 10-15-03

Sign this petition NOW! Help save Terri and let your voices be heard! | Posted 10-16-03

G.G Liddy discussing Terri Schiavo now (Call him) | Posted 10-16-03

Feeding Tube Removed From Comatose Woman | Posted 10-16-03

Feeding Tubes For Andrea Yates, But Not Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-16-03

TERRI SCHIAVO TO DIE IN ATTORNEY'S "DEATH FACTORY"? SUNCOAST HOSPICE BOSS WAS GEORGE FELOS... | Posted 10-16-03

Prosecutor Delivers Emergency Letters To Governor Bush in Terri Schiavo Case [Thomas More Center] | Posted 10-16-03

Medical Experts Contend Schiavo Won't `Feel A Thing' | Posted 10-16-03

Local Doctor Plays Part in Schiavo Case | 10/16/03

Terri Schiavo Vigil Report | Posted 10-16-03

SUICIDE; RIGHT TO DIE; EUTHANASIA | Posted 10-16-03

Jeb Bush Wimping Out in Schiavo Case?| Posted 10-17-03

Judge denies last ditch effort by Schiavo's parents | Posted 10-17-03

Judge Again Refuses to Save Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-17-03

TERRI SCHIAVO - UPDATE JUDICIAL WATCYH | Posted 10-17-03

FREEP JEB BUSH for TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO | Posted 10-17-03

Abuse report filed for Terri Schiavo (Judicial Watch and Klayman Jump In) | Posted 10-18-03

Judicial Watch Offers Jeb Bush Legal Basis to Save Terri | Posted 10-18-03

Auschwitz in America | Posted 10-18-03

Contrary to AP, Terri Schiavo is not comatose or vegatative | Posted 10-18-03

Judge orders death without trial by jury!| Posted 10-18-03

The war for Terri Schiavo's life- some links| Posted 10-18-03

Whose Life Is It? | Posted 10-19-03

Vigil Sites for Terri Schindler Schiavo | Posted 10-19-03

Open Letter to Gov Jeb Bush + Pix from Terri Schiavo's Vigil | Posted 10-19-03

Schiavo Case Could Cause Change In Law | Posted 10-19-03

Speaker of the House, Johnnie Byrd to introduce “Terri’s Bill” | Posted on 10-19-03

Mother, brother visit Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-19-03

Mother, brother visit Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-19-03

Will 'Terri's Bill'save her life now | Posted 10-19-03

LIVE FROM TERRI'S VIGIL - EMERGENCY - LEGISLATIVE SESSION - CALL FLORIDA REPS NOW!! | Posted 10-19-03

Schiavo life fight waged in Tampa court, state capitol | Posted 10-20-03

It is NOW Time for CRIMINAL PROSICUTION for Michael Schiavo | Posted 10-20-03

Sacrament Pits Family Against Hospice [Terri Schiavo] | Posted 10-20-03

Prevent Florida State Senator James King From Blocking Terr's Law |Posted 10-20-03

TERRI SCHIAVO WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? | Posted 10-20-03

Terri Legislation Now!! | Posted on 10-20-03

EUTHANASIA WORLD | Posted 10-17-03

Legislature May Act To Save Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-20-03

FAMILIES WHO DEMAND INAPPROPRIATE MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR MORIBUND PATIENTS | Posted 10-30-03

Florida police refuse to let dying comatose woman have holy communion (Terri Schiavo) | Posted 10-20-03

Commentary: When a feeding tube borders on the barbaric | May 28, 1997 | Posted 10-20-03

Senate panel approves bill to let Bush intervene in Schiavo case with 10-2 Vote |Posted 10-21-03

Gov. Bush calls special session over Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-20-03

UPDATES FROM TERRI'S VIGIL - 10/21 - FREEPER THANKS| Posted 10-21-03

FREEP: Should the feeding tube be re-inserted into Terri Schiavo? (Bill OReilly Poll) | Posted 10-21-03

Saving Terri Schiavo (A MUST READ!!) | Posted 10-21-03

Terry Schiavo Executive Order Governor's Office (email) | Posted 10-21-03

[Florida] Senate Panel Approves Schiavo Bill | Posted on 10-21-03

FREEP THIS POLL(AOL Members): Should Terri Schiavo be allowed to die? | Posted 10-22-03

Winners and Losers in the Terri Schindler Affair | Posted 10-22-03

Koppel, Nightline and Schiavo: Left Wing Priest Criticizes Florida's Intervention | Posted 10-21-03

FReep CNN to tell them to correct Terri Schiavo question ("brain damaged" not "comatose") | Posted 10-22-03

Public Statement of the Schindler Family in Response to the Statement of Michael Schiavo | Posted 10/22/03

Million Mother Hens for Terri - Prayer Thread | Posted 10-22-03

complaint filed today with AG Ashcroft RE: Theresa Maria Schiavo | Posted 10-21-03 |

TERRI IS NOW BEING RE-HYDRATED. WE DID IT! BUT PLEASE CONTINUE TO PRAY, E-MAIL | Posted on 10-21-03

Terri Schiavo Begins Receiving Fluids and Hospital Care - (Current Status Alert!) | Posted 10-22-03

TERRI SCHIAVO MISSING - REMOVED FROM HOSPITAL W/O FAMILY'S CONSENT [Update: She's back at Hospice]| Posted 10-22-03

What if There Is Something Going On in There? - (Terri Shiavo - erring to the side of caution) | Posted 10-22-03

Agency to probe alleged spousal abuse of brain damaged woman | Posted 10-22-03

URGENT - ACTION NEEDED AT ONCE for Terri Schiavo| Posted 10-22-03

Dobson Speaks Out About Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-22-03

Affidavit of Carla Iyer, nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo from April 1995 to July 1996| Posted 10-23-03

To Restore Religious Freedoms. | Posted 10-23-03

Schiavo Law Puts Heat On Politics | Posted 10-23-03

Senate President Orders District Offices To Offer Living Wills | Posted 10-23-03

Woman's Sustaining Care Resumed- But Experts Say No Hope Exists For Her Recovery | Posted 10-23-03

THE FIGHT TO SAVE TERRI SCHIAVO - Chris Ferrara's Legal Brief for Terri | Posted 10-23-03

Attorney: Terri Schiavo Again Being Fed Through Tube | Posted 10-23-03

Scorning the Courts in Florida (NY Times backs killing Schiavo)| Posted 10-23-03

Governor knows best (Bush slam on Schiavo)| Posted 10-23-03

Questions swirl around husband of brain-damaged Florida woman| Posted 10-23-03

Terry Schiavo: Another Case of Convenience v. Compassion |Posted 10-23-03

The Battle for Terri - How Bush's Orders Were Carried Out| Posted 10-24-03

Father: Brain-damaged daughter responsive | Posted 10-24-03

Michael Schiavo Larry King Live | Posted 10-24-03

LIST OF TERRI SCHIAVO's RIGHTS. PASS IT ON!!! | Posted 10-24-03

Doctors defend life for Schiavo | Posted 10-26-03

Burden of Proof: The Killing of Terri Schiavo| Posted 10-25-03

Media 'getting it wrong' on Terri Schiavo story | Posted 10-25-03

Is Terri Schiavo Dead? Eat, drink, and vegetate| Posted 10-25-03

NEWS ABOUT TERRI SCHIAVO | Posted on 10-25-03

ACLU to enter Schiavo legal fight | Oct. 25, 2003 | Posted 10-26-03

Bobby Schindler (Terri's brother) on Geraldo tonight | Posted on 10-26-03

Advocacy Center--State of Florida--Press Release [Schiavo Abuse Investigation] | Posted 10-26-03

The Martyrdom of Terri Schiavo | Posted on 10-26-03

ACLU Indignation over Landslide of Terri Schiavo Support | Posted 10-26-03

New Terri Schiavo update & request for information |Posted on 10-26-03

Terri Schindler-Schiavo: Basic Terri - a synopsis of info | Posted on 10-26-03

Husband Michael Schiavo to Do Some Image-Polishing - FROM THE FRONT LINES AT VIGIL | Posted 10-26-03

Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case) | Posted on 10-26-03

The essence of life is how we live it, not for how long. | Posted 10-26-03

A Fate Worse Than Death in Florida | Posted 10-27-03

Terri- A sweet voice-crying deep within. | Posted 10-27-2003

Anyone see Mr. Schindler on Hannity and Colmes just now? | Posted 10-27-03

Geraldo Show, At Large, Guest Attorneys Both Agree, Terri Should Live | Posted 10-26-03

Husband (Michael Schiavo) in Right-To-Die Case Rips Parents | Posted 10-27-03

Agency to probe alleged spousal abuse of Terri Schiavo | Posted on 10-27-03

Continuation for Request of Intervention on behalf of Terri Schiavo Posted 10-27-03

Doctor Says Schiavo Likely Victim of 'Some Kind of Trauma' | Posted 10-28-03

Schindler's attorney Pat Anderson to appear on Fox News with reaction to Michael on Larry King |Posted 10-28-03


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This thread will serve as a place for posting all new information and links regarding Terri's case, information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information and prayers. I will update the thread daily during the week and on Friday nights for the weekends for as long as we need to.

Thanks to "iowamomforfreedom" for helping collect all the threads. There are doubtless some missing. Please feel free to add. Future threads will have a link back to this one.

1 posted on 10/28/2003 10:00:44 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
Apologies for mistakes, duplicates or posts out of sequence. I did the thread more hurriedly than I would have liked. I have to leave in just a couple of hours, so if there are corrections to be made, just post correction and refer to thread title.

I hope this works out well. Please ping your lists.

2 posted on 10/28/2003 10:03:40 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty; .38sw; 2nd amendment mama; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; 4Godsoloved..Hegave; ...
One last bump before I retire for the evening.

Kudoes to you and all who helped compile this.

Good night.
3 posted on 10/28/2003 10:06:25 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
G'night and God bless.
4 posted on 10/28/2003 10:08:55 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
AWESOME, SL!! WOW! Lookie at all those links too! Thanks!
5 posted on 10/28/2003 10:10:23 PM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
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To: sweetliberty; iowamomforfreedom
Thanks for taking the time to do this. Great job!
6 posted on 10/28/2003 10:11:09 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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Heavenly Father, thank You for the gathering and the posting of the information relative to our beloved Terri. I pray, dear Lord, that this will be a valuable resource in our efforts to return this mother's child back into the love and care of her family. Bless each one who researches, posts, distributes, and communicates ... may all of it be bathed in prayer, that it might be pleasing to You. Protect this dear woman until the day of her release, for there is none but You who can do this mighty work. In the Name of Jesus, we pray, Amen ...
7 posted on 10/28/2003 10:14:34 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: sweetliberty; GWB and GOP Man
Good job! Free Republic cares.
8 posted on 10/28/2003 10:20:00 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: sweetliberty
WOW! Great job! Nicely done...many thanks!
9 posted on 10/28/2003 10:20:02 PM PST by Republic
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To: sweetliberty
God Bless you for your pwork, Sweetliberty, I know God led you to do this...............
10 posted on 10/28/2003 10:32:13 PM PST by oreolady (Have you reviewed your living will lately?)
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To: sweetliberty
BUMPITY!
11 posted on 10/28/2003 10:32:35 PM PST by dandelion
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To: sweetliberty
You are AWESOME for making this thread! I hope everyone sticks to it so we can consilidate all the info in one spot!
12 posted on 10/28/2003 10:36:13 PM PST by honeygrl (All of the above is JUST MY OPINION)
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To: dandelion; oreolady; Republic; Coral Snake; floriduh voter; Canticle_of_Deborah; Pegita; ...
The first 2 "latest" threads.

SCHIAVO CASE DEMANDS ANSWERS TO BIGGER QUESTIONS

My apologies to (some of) the 'save Terri' posters here (a 'vanity' post)

13 posted on 10/28/2003 10:36:35 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Maybe we should keep this thread for info only and not chat? When a thread gets too long it's impossible to find updates and correct info.
14 posted on 10/28/2003 10:46:42 PM PST by bonfire
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To: bonfire
Chatting is okay because there will be a new thread daily. That's the whole point...that way we can keep a lot of the discussion from being all over the board. Maybe there'll be less trolls this way too.
15 posted on 10/28/2003 10:49:15 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
For those who haven't seen it -- especially those in the medical profession -- let's introduce Terri's bone scan about a year after she "collapsed." There was a routing slip that went with this marked "closed head injury." I apologize for any misspellings -- sometimes it was hard to read, and sometimes, it was just that I missed the last 11 years of med school :-)

I believe this document was not released until about ten years after the scan. Other medical records for Terri still remain sealed at Michael Schiavo's orders. Patricia Anderson, Terri's lawyer (i.e., the Schindlers' lawyer) relates that as soon as she saw this document, she sent it to three physicians for evaluation. All three replied that it suggested trauma, meaning Terri may have been beaten. Other explanations are possible, but exceedingly unlikely for a healthy, 26-year-old woman. Anderson then took the matter to Judge Greer to ask for time to do discovery in the matter. He denied, saying it was all very interesting, but had nothing to do with Terri's present condition (!). (Yoohoo, Judge Greer -- there is only one suspect in the possible beating of Theresa Schiavo: the very person you entrusted as her legal guardian.)

As always, if I have stated any facts wrong, please correct me.

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831223741016 03/05
Schiavo, Theresa
Carnahan, James 27 Y O
OP diag

Nuclear Imaging
3-5- 91
BONE SCAN:
Indication: Evaluate for trauma

Procedure and findings. Multiple gamma camera images of the axial and proximal appendicular skeleton in the anterior and posterior projections were obtained, following 21.1 millicuries of Technetium 99m HDP.

There are an extensive number of focal abnormal areas of nuclide accumulation of intense type. These include multiple bilateral ribs, the costovertebral aspects of several of the thoracic vertebral bodies, the L1 vertebral body, both sacroiliac joints, the distal right femoral diaphysis, both knees, and both ankles, right greater than the left. Correlative radiographs are obtained of the lumbar spine and of the right femur which reveal compression fracture, minor, superior end plate of L1 and shaggy irregular periosteal ossification along the distal femoral diaphysis and metaphysis primarily ventrally.

The patient has a history of trauma, most likely the femoral periosteal reaction reflects a response to a subperiosteal hemorrhage and the activity in L1 correlates perfectly with the compression fracture which is presumably traumatic. The presumption is that the other multiple areas of abnormal activity also relate to previous trauma. Additional possibility would be neoplastic bone disease, widespread disseminated infectious bone disease or multiple bone infarcts from abnormal hemoglobin.

CONCLUSION
Multiple areas of abnormal scintigraphic accumulation some of which are radiograph for differential as discussed above.

16 posted on 10/28/2003 10:50:52 PM PST by T'wit
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To: sweetliberty
Oh! Guess I should learn to read! Great job, btw.
17 posted on 10/28/2003 10:51:20 PM PST by bonfire
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To: sweetliberty
Chatting is okay because there will be a new thread daily. That's the whole point...that way we can keep a lot of the discussion from being all over the board. Maybe there'll be less trolls this way too.

Great job! Thank you for caring and for taking the time to do this.

18 posted on 10/28/2003 11:03:44 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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To: EternalVigilance
Thanks EV.
19 posted on 10/28/2003 11:46:24 PM PST by SAMWolf (Many are cold, but few are frozen.)
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To: sweetliberty
My contribution dated 10-24-03. I finally checked my regular email from GOVERNOR JEB BUSH:

While this week was one of triumph for Florida, it highlighted tragedy as well. In response to lingering unanswered questions regarding the Terri Schiavo case, and more than 165,000 people voicing their concern for her condition, the Florida Legislature passed legislation that allowed Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube to be reinserted.

It was an act of compassion, supported by the conviction that any life and death decision must fully consider all relevant facts and conditions.

I thank the members for their courage in this difficult situation and encourage all Floridians to spare their own families this agony by clearly indicating their wishes in an advance directive or living will.

Thank you for your continued support. Sincerely, Jeb Bush

Thank you, Governor Bush. FV

20 posted on 10/28/2003 11:52:02 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: sweetliberty
Thank You
21 posted on 10/29/2003 12:15:00 AM PST by Orlando (Poll being conducted in Central Florida at www.540wfla.com... vote YES!)
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To: sweetliberty; fml; JustPiper; yonif; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter; Dustbunny; The Red Zone; ...
From FoxNews Channel - "On the Record with Greta" -Schiavo segment- Tuesday, 28 oct 2003

Greta: Last night, Michael Schiavo broke his silence to make his case for ending his wife's life, and made some shocking accusations against Terri's family. He said about Terri's father:

"No, because he's always wanted the money. He Always wanted the money out of this. He even testified in the first trial that he was angry that he didn't get any money."

So here to respond, is Terri's brother Bobby... He's joined by the Schindler's attorney, Pat Anderson.

Greta: Bobby, umm, your brother-in-law says its about money. Basically your father wants the money, thats why he does not want the feeding tube removed from your sister. What's your response?

Bobby: Well, its umm, totally false Greta. Interestingly enough, back in 1992, Michael was sueing a doctor, at a malpractice trial, and he was asking for up to 20 million dollars to take care of Terri for the rest of his life... for the rest of her life.

Bobby: And shortly after the malpractice money came in, in January 1993... It was umm, just six months later when Michael attempted to withhold antibiotics, Terri would have died from an infection, she had from a urinary tract infection... She would have died, and Michael would have inherited close to a Million dollars at that time.

Bobby: So this notion, or you know, this accusation that my parents were in it for the money, is just absolutely false, and ahhh, just wrong.

Anderson: Greta, the parents...

Greta: Pat, go ahead.

Anderson: The parents want to keep Terri alive. They want to keep Terry alive, its obvious. They're not fighting to kill her, they're fighting to keep her alive and get her better. It has nothing to do with money for THEM.

Greta: So what's with this money at... so Pat... Pat, so what's with.... I mean, is there... I don't even know where the money IS... umm I know that there was a malpractice lawsuit, a successful one, but a lot of money has gone into paying for this poor woman's medical care. Is there ANY money to be-

Anderson: Oh, no, no no no.

Greta: fighting over?

Anderson: No, the money has NOT gone into that purpose, the money has gone into lawyer's pockets. George Felos has received 357 THOUSAND dollars of Terri's money. Debbie Bushnell has received about another 90 thousand. All told, WAY more than HALF of the money that that jury awarded for Terri's care has been spent on attorney's fees and costs.

Greta: But is there any LEFT to fight about? How about that? Thats a good [unintelligible] to my next question...

Anderson: No, No... No.

Greta: Ok, allright... Bobby, what was the... how do you describe your sister's marriage up until the day that she went to the hospital? What was her marriage like with her husband?

Bobby: Well it was deteriorating Greta. I mean, we've had ahh, Terri and I had conversations ahh, prior to her collapsing that evening, where she was ahh, coming to me seeking a DIVORCE from Michael.

Bobby: And at the time, I was only in my early twenties, and ah, other than just listening to her, I really didn't offer... you know, have much to offer, as far as how to go about seeking a divorce. Ahh, she was extremely unhappy.

Greta: Pat, what Michael said last night is that Terri was bulemic, and that when you constantly throw up, that you lose a lot of potassium, and the suggestion is that what put her into cardiac arrest was VERY LOW potassium. True or False? on ahh whether or not she was bulemic, and this may have created a potassium deficiency?

Anderson: Well, the doctors I've consulted, and maybe Dr. Baden can throw some light on this, is that her posassium was ahh, below normal, but her BLOOD GLUCOSE was quite elevated. So there is some speculation in the doctors that I've consulted, that the paramedics were running a glucose solution, ahh on her before she got to the hospital which ALTERED her blood chemistry... to that extent. The bulemia is... is just a theory.

Greta: Alright, well we'll still keep digging into that... Bobby, do you ever talk to your brother-in-law? Do you ever have any conversations with him in the last six months or so?

Bobby: No, not in the last six months. The last time I had contact with Michael was just prior to the original trial in January of 2000. And I asked him if he would like to talk about the upcoming trial, and umm, at the time, he told me that any conversations that WE would have would be through his attorney.

Greta: And your parents, have they, I mean has there ever been any sort of effort for you all to just sit in the room, I mean, obviously has become a very public and disturbing problem. ahh, any chance that even, all of you could sit down, and somehow work this out in Terri's best interest?... Bobby?

Bobby: Well I would LOVE... That would be WONDERFUL if we could do something to work this out... and we can get guardianship back of Terri, cause all we want to do is bring her back home and take care of her.

Bobby: We just want Michael to take care of HIS family, and we want to take care of Terri.

Anderson: You know, he has, ahh an infant daughter, and he needs to concentrate on it.

Greta: Allright, Pat, Bobby, thank you both very much.


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Recent interviews/excerpts:
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"Hannity and Colmes" - Tuesday 10-14-03 --> (Terri's father) Bob Schindler: "MONEY and FOUL PLAY"

"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 10-24-03 --> Forensic Pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden: "Potassium imbalance UNLIKELY - HEALTHY heart - NECK TRAUMA"

"At Large with Geraldo Rivera" Sunday 10-26-03 --> Florida AG Christopher Darden and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz: "You have eternity to be dead; You only have a limited amount of time to live"

"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (father) Bob Schindler and (neurologist) Dr. William Hammesfahr: "She absolutely CAN be rehabilitated -clearly NEVER had heart attack -Emergency room: damaged neck"

"On the Record with Greta" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson: "BIG FIGHT -attempted STRANGULATION"

"On the Record with Greta" - Tuesday 10-28-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson and (brother) Bobby Schindler: "failing marriage -DIVORCE imminent -Potassium explained":


22 posted on 10/29/2003 12:26:18 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: sweetliberty
Anyone want to go fishing? At http://pubtitlet.co.pinellas.fl.us/index.html there is a link to 'available records' which requires $60 registration to view. Available records include:
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BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY CONTRACTOR NAME
BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY COMPANY NAME
BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY CONSTRUCTION SITE ADDRESS
BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY PERMIT NUMBER
BUILDING PERMIT LOOKUP BY CPR NUMBER
BUILDING PERMIT INSPECTION RECORDS
CHILD SUPPORT INQUIRY
CHILD SUPPORT INQUIRY NAME ENTRY
CHILD SUPPORT RECORD
CIVIL/SMALL CLAIMS SYSTEM
ATTORNEY CASE LOAD
CASE RELATED PERSONS
DOING BUSINESS AS
FORECLOSURE SALES
HISTORY NAME INQUIRY
NAME INQUIRY
PLAINTIFF/DEFENDANT ADDRESS
PLAINTIFF/DEFENDANT INDEX
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CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
CASE APPEARANCE SUMMARY
CASE CHARGE/DISPOSITION/SENTENCING HISTORY
CASE PROGRESS DOCKET DISPLAY
CASE RELATED PERSONS
COURT APPEARANCE VIEWING
DISPLAY STATUTES
INQ/FIND PERSON SPN BY NAME
INQ/FIND ATTORNEY NAME
JAIL/BOND CUSTODY STATUS
OFFENDER BASED TRACKING SYSTEM (OBTS)
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PERSONS NUMERIC INQUIRY
PERSONS RELATED CASES
SENTENCING GUIDELINES
MARRIAGE LICENSE INQUIRY
MARRIAGE NAME RECORDS
MARRIAGE RECORD
OFFICIAL RECORDS
INQUIRIES ON PLAT INFORMATION
INQUIRIES ON RESTRICTIONS BY SECTION NUMBER
INQUIRIES ON RESTRICTIONS BY SUBDIVISION NAME
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OFFICIAL RECORDS INDEX BY BOOK AND PAGE NUMBER
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TAX DEED SALE DATES
TAX DEED SALE PROPERTIES
TAX DEED FINAL DISPOSITION
PARKING TICKETS
INDIVIDUAL PARKING TICKET INQUIRY
PARKING TICKET INQUIRY BY NAME/TAG NUMBER
PARKING TICKET ACTIVITY
TICKET PAYMENT RECORDS
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CASE RELATED PERSONS
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23 posted on 10/29/2003 1:06:08 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: sweetliberty
Another case in which Greer was involved (one of the judges) had to do with a woman who died in the care of Scientologists. Page here

http://www.whyaretheydead.net/room174.html#ad_litem

gives an overview of the case and an interesting comment about the Pinellas County Medical Examiner:

"Prosecutors say they still believe McPherson died as the result of neglect at the hands of fellow church members. But the credibility of Pasco-Pinellas Medical Examiner Joan Wood is so poor following her decision to change McPherson's autopsy report that charges of abusing a disabled person and practicing medicine without a license cannot be sustained, State Attorney Bernie McCabe said Monday."

24 posted on 10/29/2003 1:30:25 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: Graymatter
Free search yields three listings in criminal look-up for Michael Schiavo; an auto accident for Jodi Centonze; 5 traffic citations for Michael Schiavo (one for running a stop sign). This Michael Schiavo (who may or may not be Terri's husband) completed a defensive driving course recently, as a result of a charge of "OBED/TRAFFIC/CONTROL/DEVICE" whatever that is.
25 posted on 10/29/2003 2:04:30 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: sweetliberty
I doubt that. However it will concentrate them into one place where we might get them banned with judicious use of the abuse button.
26 posted on 10/29/2003 2:11:16 AM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: Graymatter
It is not clear to this non-subscriber whether the names listed in the criminal look-up are always defendants. For all I know they could be witnesses or other involved parties in cases. You need to register to get more info. In some of the Michael S. listings, his birth date is given, but in others it could as well be anyone named Michael Schiavo, since records are not accessible without registration.
If anyone's registered and can access all records please fm me, I have some specific searches in mind that might not be the obvious ones.
27 posted on 10/29/2003 2:53:43 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: floriduh voter
"....It was an act of compassion, supported by the conviction that any life and death decision must fully consider all relevant facts and conditions."

Let me join with you in thanking the boy who would be governor and the 'people sensitive' legislature of the state of Death r Us for waiting until the sixth day of starvation to get off their fat brains and save this defenseless woman.

On second thought, you go ahead on your own, and do all the 'thanking' you want. I'll pass. Some call that kind of 'thanking' kissing the darkside. To each his own, right?

28 posted on 10/29/2003 3:28:40 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: sweetliberty
Thanks for the ping and all your hard work.


Good article here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1010128/posts?page=1,50
29 posted on 10/29/2003 4:16:40 AM PST by clouda
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To: sweetliberty
This is wonderful. "Thank you" to you and iowamomforfreedom for putting it together.
30 posted on 10/29/2003 4:38:11 AM PST by syriacus (Casual comments about tubes, made after watching a 3 handkerchief movie, do not justify euthanasia.)
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks for the ping, and the transcript, FL_engineer. The links to other interviews will be very useful, too.
31 posted on 10/29/2003 4:46:54 AM PST by syriacus (Casual comments about tubes, made after watching a 3 handkerchief movie, do not justify euthanasia.)
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To: sweetliberty; NYer; Ragtime Cowgirl; kimmie7; Theodore R.; RedRidingHood; Land of the Irish; ...
Kudos for initiating a needed FReeper resource. There are threads that were overlooked, and I will do what I can to assist you in this regard. As part of the index I'm creating, I'll also credit those FReepers who brought these articles to the attention of FreeRepublic membership and FR lurkers.

In the beginning, there were only a handful of FReepers participating on the Terri threads early on. However, what we lacked in numbers we made up for in dedication and prayerful persistence - with hours of daily research and posting to bring this shameful issue to the attention of FreeRepublic.com and beyond.

I believe this issue has 'legs of its own', and Terri will not be made to suffer the latest barbarism of the Florida death camp 'system' supported without question by Gov. Bush, the Florida courts, the Florida legislature, and the Roman Catholic Church.

Evil shrinks in the light of day.

The light of the Lord has exposed the madness condoned within the medical and legal profession against the vulnerable and helpless who can and are easily manipulated into naming their predators as the beneficiaries of all their worldly goods.

While society demands an end to 'organized crime', it is without doubt quite blind to those who use the authority of government to get away with what a reasonable man would call extortion and murder. The perfect crime is that which is done under the color of law.

Just as a rose by any other name is still a rose, so to a murder by court decree which intentionally and without cause terminates the life of a good and decent human is still a murder.

Hitler had his courts. Florida has its courts. In this instance they are a mirror of purpose and result.

32 posted on 10/29/2003 4:47:54 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: FL_engineer
I think it's telling that Michael is going on with Larry King, who has a reputation for no hard questions and no research, and the Schindlers go on with a lawyer like Greta who they know will ask them some tough ones.

I would like to see Michael with Greta, and give the Schindlers a chance with Larry King.
33 posted on 10/29/2003 5:14:35 AM PST by I still care
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To: sweetliberty
I am listening to MS brother Steve, on the Micheal Mshconish (sp) program, and he reports that the money (at least some) being paid to MS attorney, is from Terri's settlement money.The reasoning being that he was once Terri's lawyer. What a sick and ironic twist of fate.
34 posted on 10/29/2003 5:21:50 AM PST by fml
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To: sweetliberty
I managed to get up in time for the radio interview with MS's brother Steve and Michael Smerconish

It's on now .. I'll report back later
35 posted on 10/29/2003 5:26:04 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: sweetliberty
And I might add it's a very interesting interview

The radio guy is being very fair .. he is asking good questions and letting Steven fully answer the questions

36 posted on 10/29/2003 5:32:55 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Mo1
Boy I did a hatchet job on Smerconish's name. Steve S also claims to KNOW that Terri said during a movie that she would never want to live like that, and they have conseidered her dead for 13 years now. I guess he is just trying to stand by his brother but he is not going to sway anyone.
37 posted on 10/29/2003 5:32:56 AM PST by fml
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To: Mo1
After the break, Michael is going to ask the brother why Terri's "wishes to die" didn't come out until years later......
38 posted on 10/29/2003 5:33:34 AM PST by mickie
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To: fml
Boy I did a hatchet job on Smerconish's name

LOL .. I went to the talk radio website to cut & paste his name because I would never be able to spell it

39 posted on 10/29/2003 5:34:47 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: mickie
Yes I know .. I'm sitting here writing down notes so I won't forget what Steven said

Just one question .. is this the brother the testified that heard Terrys wishes??

40 posted on 10/29/2003 5:36:52 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Graymatter
Can you find any of Michael's Pennsylvania lawsuits?
41 posted on 10/29/2003 5:40:48 AM PST by TaxRelief (Welcome to the only website dedicated to the preservation of a free republic.)
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To: Mo1
Steve claims it took 8 years for MS to give up and realize she was gone. Therefore MS was not honoring her wished in the first place. Steve doesn't seem to be able to keep up with his brother stories.
42 posted on 10/29/2003 5:41:57 AM PST by fml
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To: sweetliberty; iowamomforfreedom
Excellent! Now I only have to bookmark one place.

Let's add Terri's family site for new readers:

http://www.terrisfight.org
43 posted on 10/29/2003 5:50:46 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Mo1
--Just one question .. is this the brother the testified that heard Terrys wishes??--

No, this brohter just heard about the supposed conversation. How many brothers are there?
44 posted on 10/29/2003 5:51:57 AM PST by fml
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To: fml
Did ya catch the part where he said Terry's parents were bankrupt and had no money .. that they couldn't even get credit to rent an apartment

That it was her parents that moved in with MS because they had no place to live

(all of the above is in refence to 1990/1991 after Terry's collaspe)
45 posted on 10/29/2003 5:56:42 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: fml
I don't know, that is why I asked the question
46 posted on 10/29/2003 5:57:26 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Mo1
yeah, he's a saint among men - not!!
47 posted on 10/29/2003 5:58:47 AM PST by fml
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To: EternalVigilance; sweetliberty
EV, thanks for the ping.

Sweetliberty, what a great job!
48 posted on 10/29/2003 6:02:24 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: fml
I wonder if Steven will try to call Glen Beck again .. he did said that he would be willing to do another interview with him

BRB .. I need to find the transcript to the LKL and compare notes to what Steven said
49 posted on 10/29/2003 6:04:56 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: sweetliberty; iowamomforfreedom
Awesome job! Thank you both very much.
50 posted on 10/29/2003 6:06:05 AM PST by windchime
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