Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10

Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

TERRI'S FIGHT (Thread 6 - November 8-10, 2003) (Link back to thread 5 - Nov. 5-7)

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Contained in Thread 4:

Link to article on Michael Schiavo from hometown newspaper, information on death by starvation and dehydration, information on hospice eligibility and hospice and medicare/medicaid fraud, e-mail address for Judge Greer, transcript of Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, Terri's address at the hospice and the address for the foundation, to send cards for Terri's birthday (December 3), transcript of O'Reilly interview with Kate Adamson, e-mail addresses for Florida legislature, transcript of Abrams Report interview with George Felos and Pam Anderson, transcription of Terri's bone scan, legalese for dummies version of Gov. Bush's motion to dismiss Sciavo's suit against the Constitutionality of Terri's Law, link to FatherOfLiberty's research on HBOT (Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy), links to ACLJ involvement in Schiavo case and Father Rob Johansen's daily update.

There are four other relevant posts that I want to highlight here in case anyone missed them or didn't get pinged. These are a general Terri thread troll alert, an especially thoughtful post about the sincere effort that FReepers are making in Terri's behalf, the Father's Love Letter , and remarks made by Jim Robinson on this issue and reposted here by lonevoice.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

There was a tremendous amount of information posted on the previous thread. For anyone who hasn't been following the daily threads, links to relevant posts and information from the previous thread are contained in the body of the present one. I have found that very helpful in trying to find something later. You people are doing a spectacular job of getting information out and also in helping to keep all of us updated here. What a great joint effort. This fight, to me, illustrates beautifully what Free Republic is about and what it means to be a FReeper. Way to go FRiends. Keep up the good work!

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Latest threads On Terri's Case

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[sweetliberty]

"This article,2nd Schiavo friend speaks, by David Sommer appeared in The Tampa Bay Tribune on May 10, 2001

The article states: "MS has FATHERED TWO (2) Children" We know MS's second child with Jodie Centonze was born on or around Oct 31st, 2003"

Good catch! There has been some discussion on the third (1st?) child, but so far no one has been able to pin it down. Excellent observation! Now what do we do with it?

Nic, any ideas?

[Lovergirl]

It's an atrocity.

[nicmarlo]

Well, so far, I've only come across the second child's name and dob (date of birth).....that was in 2002. I didn't post it here and don't remember where I found it at the moment....I'll try to find it.

[Coral Snake]

You have until this thread goes to 401 and starts a new set of posts to answer the QUESTION about immediate crematiopn of the body and the medical records!!!!

[msmagoo]

The full article is posted here. Ethan_Allen added a great deal of research into Florida laws based on the article in this post.

The main site http://www.oscnewsgazette.com/ is down right now, so you might find the outside link working later when the site is back up.

[Robert A Cook PE]

OK.

"Minor" fees to a set of attorneys (with almost 1/3 of the settlement all going to Felos!) ...

But why did MS pay 55,000.00 to a BANK?

[nicmarlo]

FYI, while looking for girlfriend/baby info, I found this (but you probably already saw this, too, lol):

June 8, 2001 – Michael Schiavo was issued a deposition subpoena. On two separate occasions the subpoena servers could not locate Schiavo. He and his fiancée had vacated their residence, their whereabouts were unknown.

June 14, 2001 – At the 11th hour, Schiavo’s attorney gave notice Schiavo would not be available for his scheduled deposition.

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:b22vBgixxeYJ:www.terrisfight.org/timeline.htm+Cindy+Shook+Brashers&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[Krodg]

How many times have you ever uttered the words, "That will never happen to me," and then that very thing does?

Most women in 'Domestic Abuse' cases have been there. They believe that if they were the victim they would act differently....then the truth hits home. I've been there....

[msmagoo]

"But why did MS pay 55,000.00 to a BANK?"

For the services of a financial planner, I believe. Thus I assume he put some of Terri's money into stocks, mutual funds, investments. (Which is legal BTW)

HOWEVER if he or Jodi "invested" Terri's money in businesses which he or Jodi OWN, that would mean he still has a substantial financial motive in bringing about Terri's demise.

[sweetliberty]

"At the 11th hour, Schiavo’s attorney gave notice Schiavo would not be available for his scheduled deposition."

Well, isn't that interesting. Wonder if they ever did catch up with him. Did he ever give THAT depostion?

[Robert A Cook PE]

So, in the 10 years between 6/93 and 6/2001, when the trust fund COULD have almost tripled in value SIMPLY BY BEING INVESTED IN THE STOCK MARKET, MS spent over 400,000.00 on banks and lawyer fees (and all but 24,000.00 since '98!) and NONE on therapy.

OK.

Now, what happened in '98 that caused Felos and Bushnell (same law firm) to earn 400,000.00 in the three years between 1998 and 2001?

[mickie]

"What if Geaorge is paying Michael?"

Bingo!

Money, money, money........that is exactly what this is all about.
Kill Terri,collect inheritance, write a book or two, make a movie and TV special.

Follow the money....the root of all evil!

[nicmarlo]

I don't know, but I bet not.

[sweetliberty]

"We need to put this out to the public, and media.. It's important.... "

Not without more facts. Information like this needs to be irrefutable, otherwise it can backfire.

[nicmarlo]

did you see these:

AFFIDAVIT
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BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CAROLYN
JOHNSON who being first duly sworn deposes and says:


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AFFIDAVIT
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STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PINELLAS

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared HEIDI LAW who
being first duly sworn deposes and says:

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AFFIDAVIT
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STATE OF FLORIDA  )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS  )

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA
SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

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AFFIDAVIT
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BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared ROBERT
SCHINDLER, SR., who being first duly sworn deposes and says:

[Robert A Cook PE]

So, we'd should see some indication of "growth" (and not only fees!) ....

Until the stock losses AFTER the period in question, IF (and it's a big if) IF the fund was handled even half-properly, it would now be worth several times what it originally had.

Minus legitimate fees, of course.

So he charged the fund (roughly) 35,000.00 between 93 amd '98, and 380,000.00 between '98 and '01.

[Krodg]

I'll start searching...

[sweetliberty]

Yes, I have seen those. Amazing, isn't it, how the courts have discounted so much that is relevant while accepting so much that is not?

[nicmarlo]

Very!

[nicmarlo]

I just wouldn't know where to look for that one, Krodg.