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Iceman (Oetzi) Discoverer Claims Reward
BBC ^ | 12-22-2003 | Bethany Bell

Posted on 12/22/2003 9:56:12 AM PST by blam

Iceman discoverer claims reward

By Bethany Bell
BBC correspondent in Bolzan

Bones of contention: How much is Oetzi worth?

A German man who in 1991 discovered the 5,300-year-old iceman, Oetzi, in the Alps is now demanding up to $250,000 as a finder's reward. The provincial government of Bolzano in northern Italy, where Oetzi is a star tourist attraction, says it is considering its response.

The iceman was found in the Oetztal valley on the Austrian-Italian border by Helmut Simon and his wife Erika.

At first the couple thought it was a mountaineer who had had an accident.

It turned out to be an ancient mummy.

But while Oetzi was feted by the provincial government in Bolzano, who built a special museum for him, the Simons felt they were unfairly treated.

After several years of court proceedings, Helmut Simon was recently recognised as Oetzi's official discoverer - a move which opens up the possibility of a finder's fee.

His lawyer Elohim Rudolph Ramirez says the reward should be between $150,000 and $250,000.

"We think that it is an honest fee. The province of Bolzano makes big business with this mummy," the lawyer said.

"From the historical aspect you can't value this because it is so extraordinary - a man, a totally intact man, 5,000 years old. Mr Simon doesn't want an astronomical fee for that."

Human respect

A few years ago the province of Bolzano offered Helmut Simon around $5,000 as a finder's fee. It has yet to respond to the current request.

(Oetzi) has to be treated as a human being and not as an object

Egarter Vigl South Tyrol Museum of Archaeology Stefan Beikircher, a legal adviser to the province, says: "The government has always shown a readiness to offer something to Mr Simon. It's just that so many unrealistic numbers have been thrown around."

At the South Tyrol Museum of Archaeology, Oetzi lies in a newly improved refrigerated cell - oblivious to the legal rows.

The pathologist in charge of preserving him, Egarter Vigl, feels the ancient iceman should be treated with more respect.

"We have a human body and in my personal view it's not important if this man died yesterday or five thousand years ago. He is a human being, and he has to be treated as a human being and not as an object."


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1 posted on 12/22/2003 9:56:14 AM PST by blam
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To: farmfriend
Oetzi, Iceman Of The Alps
2 posted on 12/22/2003 9:58:01 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
"From the historical aspect you can't value this because it is so extraordinary - a man, a totally intact man, 5,000 years old. Mr Simon doesn't want an astronomical fee for that."

Not quite entirely intact.

3 posted on 12/22/2003 9:58:50 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"From the historical aspect you can't value this because it is so extraordinary - a man, a totally intact man, 5,000 years old. Mr Simon doesn't want an astronomical fee for that."

Mr. Simon simply believes he is entitled to some cold cash

4 posted on 12/22/2003 10:11:31 AM PST by rit
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To: rit
Mr. Simon simply believes he is entitled to some cold cash

He probably deserves it if the government is raking in the money. I think any of us would be annoyed a bit if we discovered something and the government took it and starting making money off of it.

It's unfortunate that it happens to be a human body in this case.

5 posted on 12/22/2003 10:34:20 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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6 posted on 12/22/2003 7:53:16 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: blam
His lawyer Elohim Rudolph Ramirez

Somehow this name creates vague feelings of unease,
I'm glad he's not MY lawyer.
7 posted on 12/22/2003 7:57:20 PM PST by tet68
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To: af_vet_rr
He probably deserves it if the government is raking in the money.

I agree. Obviously the mummy has monetary value, so the guy who found this valuable piece of merchandise should get a cut of the action.

8 posted on 12/22/2003 8:27:54 PM PST by elli1
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To: Professional Engineer
ping
9 posted on 12/22/2003 8:51:48 PM PST by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)
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To: farmfriend
"...The article presents the results when the minerals found in Ötzi's teeth, bones, and intestines were compared to those found in soil and water samples taken from a wide area of the Tyrolean Alps."

I wonder if this means that he was a yodeller.

This is a fascinating story. These are murky waters I wouldn't want to be in. The couple found a mummy and they want money.

The museum has already incurred costs to preserve the mummy, so it's fair that they charge admission if only to recoup the costs.

It might seem less creepy if the museum offered the couple a percentage of future gate revenues rather than paying them outright for the found mummified human remains.

10 posted on 12/23/2003 1:48:03 AM PST by bd476 (The glass is half-full.)
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BTTT
11 posted on 02/06/2004 5:45:08 PM PST by carpio
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12 posted on 06/14/2005 12:41:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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