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Kerry on the Record: Amnesty is OK
NewsMax.com ^ | March 4, 2004 | Dave Eberhart

Posted on 03/04/2004 7:20:46 AM PST by upchuck

Kerry on the Record: Amnesty is OK

Dave Eberhart, Newsmax.com
Thursday, Mar. 04, 2004
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Putative Democratic candidate for president, Sen. John Forbes Kerry, D-Mass., is not afraid of the charged “amnesty” word when it comes to his stated policies on undocumented immigrants.

Despite amnesty’s nettlesome connotation as being synonymous with “rewarding persons who have engaged in illegal activity,” Kerry told the world at the Albuquerque, New Mexico Democratic Primary debate:

“I supported and was prepared to vote for amnesty from 1986. And it is essential to have immigration reform. Anyone who has been in this country for five or six years, who’s paid their taxes, who has stayed out of trouble, ought to be able to translate into an American citizenship immediately, not waiting.”

After a period of time, however, the dreaded “amnesty” word worked its way out of the Kerry lexicon on the subject. In its place -- the more refined and neater: “earned legalization”:

“I support an earned legalization proposal that will allow undocumented immigrants to legalize their status if they have been in the United States for a certain amount of time, have been working, and can pass a background check. This makes sense for the economy, provides fairness to people in our communities who have worked hard and paid taxes, and will also allow us to strengthen our homeland security by bringing undocumented workers out of the shadows.”

In any event, the Kerry rhetoric seemed to hit the right note. The Cesar Chavez-founded United Farm Workers endorsed Sen. Kerry for President. UFW President Arturo S. Rodriguez gave Kerry ringing praise in the official announcement:

“[T]he United Farm Workers proudly supports Senator John Kerry for President because he shares our vision of helping Latinos and all people achieve the decent life America promises those who work hard for a living….

“We trust Senator Kerry because of his long history with us, from participating in the grape boycott during the mid-1970s to supporting the right of California strawberry workers to organize in the late 1990s.

“Most recently, we have worked with Senator Kerry on bipartisan legislation dealing fairly with the immigration dilemma facing immigrant workers, their families and employers -- the AgJobs bill, S. 1645, that John Kerry co-sponsors along with 50 other U.S. senators from both parties….”

Despite having earned the key Chavez imprimatur, Kerry has not always been the Johnny-on-the-spot migrant worker’s best friend and savior.

In 1998, for instance, Kerry voted against the creation of a national registry containing names of U.S. workers who want to perform temporary or seasonal agricultural work, and to require the Attorney General to allow more foreign workers into the U.S. for farm work under H-2A visas.

Also in 1998, Kerry voted down an expanded Visa program for skilled workers.

In 1997, Kerry voted against an amendment that would have restored food stamp benefits to the children of legal immigrants.

But such momentary lapses can apparently be forgiven by the Chavez camp as Sen. Kerry is, indeed, a co-sponsor of S. 1645, the Agricultural Job Opportunity, Benefits, and Security Act of 2003.

This bill would create a guest-worker program that leads to amnesty for certain agricultural workers. The potential recipients of the amnesty will be required to prove 100 days of agricultural employment in the 18-month period that ended Aug. 31, 2003. Then, prior to receiving amnesty, workers would have to show 360 days of additional farm work over the next six years.

In 2002, Sen. Kerry voted for S.2045, the Abraham foreign worker bill to nearly triple the number of foreign high-tech workers. The bill passed the Senate 96-1 despite its arrival on the heels of the release of a special Government Accounting Office report finding.

Although he went with the herd in 2002, four years before in 1998, Kerry voted against S.1723, which passed the Senate 72-20. Enacted into law, it increased by nearly 150,000 the number of foreign workers that high-tech American companies could hire over the next three years.

In the case of S.1723, Kerry agreed with those who argued that the foreign workers were not needed -- while U.S. firms were laying-off tens-of-thousands of American workers.

As to Kerry’s opinion of the President’s proposed program: “We need comprehensive immigration reform; you can’t do just one piece. The president’s plan is a fraudulent plan. It’s fundamentally a plan for cheap labor.”

Harsh labels aside, Kerry finds himself bucking a President who is touting a plan that does not feature any sort of classic amnesty:

“I oppose amnesty -- placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship,” Bush said, when announcing his own proposal. “Granting amnesty encourages the violation of our laws and perpetuates illegal immigration. America’s a welcoming country. But citizenship must not be the automatic reward for violating the laws of America.”

Bush, among other things, wants to up the number of “green” cards that allow immigrants to work lawfully in the U.S. Currently about 140,000 “green cards” are issued each year to people wanting to migrate to the United States.

Under the Bush plan illegal immigrants already in the United States can only apply for the temporary worker program if they already have a job. The special status would last for three years and could be renewed once, for a total stay of six years. If temporary workers failed to stay employed or broke the law, they would be sent home.

Pundits say that the Bush plan is likely to pass muster in the Congress.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; kerry
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To: redlipstick

LOL-LOL-LOL --- gotcha. :)
41 posted on 03/04/2004 12:21:50 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: redlipstick
ROTFLOL

Save that picture! :-)

42 posted on 03/04/2004 12:24:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: gatorbait
Thanks again for your always erudite thoughts on this subject.

My pleasure.

Obviously Kerry is a paragon of honesty and should be supported.

Didn't say that. I noted with irony that Kerry is more straightforward about calling an Amnesty an Amnesty than Bush is. Didn't call him a paragon of anything, nor did I suggest it, nor did I suggest supporting him.

I believe I said The best chances of defeating Amnesty remain in maintaining a solidly GOP House. The Senate, limpwrists will probably go along with the Bush Amnesty, and I am not of the mind to see Kerry elected and hope for gridlock that way.

Lots of strawmen in your post, obviously.

Absolutely, Kerry is a man of principle and moral clarity. Thanks for calling that to our attention.

Got a link for where I did so?


43 posted on 03/04/2004 12:26:31 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: gatorbait
The only thing the Bush basher want, is to bash Bush -- this thread is an example.

Anyone who thinks there is no difference between Bush and Kerry is NO conservative and doesn't belong in a conservative forum.
44 posted on 03/04/2004 12:26:42 PM PST by FairOpinion ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country." --- G. W. Bush)
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To: All
Kerry: Citizenship For Anyone In US For Five Years
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067615/posts
45 posted on 03/04/2004 12:28:01 PM PST by Hon
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To: Hon; FairOpinion

Excellent link Hon.

FO --- exactly right. Bush bashing is a blood sport around here all too often.
46 posted on 03/04/2004 12:35:53 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: redlipstick; onyx
Awwww...aren't you two cute.
47 posted on 03/04/2004 12:41:23 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: FairOpinion
Not to mention the fact, that they also don't understand politics or how government works.Left to them, the Dems would hold every political office in perpetuity.
48 posted on 03/04/2004 12:42:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Sabertooth
Got a link for where I did so?

Well gosh, perhaps the implication in the post I responded to, not withstanding your disclaimer. Face it, there's not a thing Bush will do to appease you and the rest of the clowder here or on ElPeePee. You know it and so does everyone who's followed your anti Bush rants., The "I want to help the president"still rings as hollow as when Jim Wright uttered that junk in the 80's. Frankly, you and the clowder do come up with great sounding things, but in reality, it's the same whining screed, posted with the same cute picture. I know, you'll deny, demand proof , and when it's handed to you, demand more. Reminds me of the press and the Dems screeching about the Bush's Guard records. Did you "help " them with that just like you're "helping" the President? Ah, don't bother, it'll be another self righteous screed with your kitty cat.What a man of principle! You and Honest John Kerry,the man who calls it what "it" is, til tomorrow of course.

Cordially,

49 posted on 03/04/2004 12:47:24 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: NittanyLion; redlipstick
Awwww...aren't you two cute.

Hey, redlipstick, LOOK what the KITTY dragged in. They're a duo.

50 posted on 03/04/2004 12:47:56 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: nopardons
"Left to them, the Dems would hold every political office in perpetuity."

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That's pretty much what happened in CA -- every single statewide elected office was held by a Democrat, until Arnold came along. Of course the only reason we did get Arnold, because they couldn't suppress him in a primary.

These people running around calling themselves conservatives are actually the worst enemies of conservatives, because they destroy the Republican party, -- the only party, which has any chance against the Democrats -- from the inside.
51 posted on 03/04/2004 12:52:28 PM PST by FairOpinion ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country." --- G. W. Bush)
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To: onyx; redlipstick; gatorbait
Oh, we're doing cat graphics?


52 posted on 03/04/2004 12:52:33 PM PST by Howlin (Just another unrepentant Bush supporter.)
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To: Howlin

LM*O! Meow.
53 posted on 03/04/2004 12:53:19 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: gatorbait
Well gosh, perhaps the implication in the post I responded to, not withstanding your disclaimer.

I implied nothing; you drew an inference that was contradicted by what I explicitly said.

My "disclaimer" withstands, actually.

Face it, there's not a thing Bush will do to appease you and the rest of the clowder here or on ElPeePee. You know it and so does everyone who's followed your anti Bush rants., The "I want to help the president"still rings as hollow as when Jim Wright uttered that junk in the 80's. Frankly, you and the clowder do come up with great sounding things, but in reality, it's the same whining screed, posted with the same cute picture. I know, you'll deny, demand proof , and when it's handed to you, demand more.

What proof? You post strawmen.

Reminds me of the press and the Dems screeching about the Bush's Guard records. Did you "help " them with that just like you're "helping" the President?

Non sequiter, to the extent that it's intelligible.

Ah, don't bother, it'll be another self righteous screed with your kitty cat.What a man of principle! You and Honest John Kerry,the man who calls it what "it" is, til tomorrow of course.

Nice. Those ad hominems make a fallacy trifecta for your post.

Cordially,
I like the sarcasm here, actually. It's your most consistently effective rhetorical tool.

54 posted on 03/04/2004 12:56:10 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: Howlin
:-)
55 posted on 03/04/2004 12:58:02 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Sabertooth
You're whole being is a fallacy trifecta, kittytooth. You're good, man, the Kerry people must do the dance of joy when you post. Say, gonna take your little screed over to EllPeePee and show off your brilliant rejoinders for the rest of the tinfoilers?

I know, You and your clowder alone are the true keepers of the true and principled conservative flame. You do dream large,even though your life is confined to your litter box.Go hit your scratching post a few times;it'll calm your nerves.

Cordially,

56 posted on 03/04/2004 1:02:32 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Howlin; onyx; gatorbait

57 posted on 03/04/2004 1:07:17 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: gatorbait
You're whole being is a fallacy trifecta, kittytooth.

When in doubt, go with the classics. "I'm rubber, you're glue." Cool.

You're good, man, the Kerry people must do the dance of joy when you post. Say, gonna take your little screed over to EllPeePee and show off your brilliant rejoinders for the rest of the tinfoilers?

I know, You and your clowder alone are the true keepers of the true and principled conservative flame. You do dream large,even though your life is confined to your litter box.Go hit your scratching post a few times;it'll calm your nerves.

Ad hominem, guilt-by-association... hey, that's only two.

Thanks, btw, for using the word "clowder." I looked it up, and it's a new one to me.


58 posted on 03/04/2004 1:12:07 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: My2Cents
What does one feed that thang? Oh-Oh, I think I might know the answer.
59 posted on 03/04/2004 1:13:44 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: FairOpinion
Four years ago, I ended every one of my posts to this crowd, with : THE FRINGERS ARE THE ENEMY WITHIN .I haven't changed my mind about that;if anything, that opinion has been strengthened.

The people who consistently post anti-Bush things here, whether couched in honeyed words,pedagogic pseudo intellectualism, or just outright flamings, are the same...petulant children, dogs in the manger,cut off your nose to spite your face types, who were happy, happy, HAPPY throughout the Clinton years, because the rest of us were miserable too.

60 posted on 03/04/2004 1:25:21 PM PST by nopardons
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