Posted on 07/23/2004 8:09:47 PM PDT by listenhillary
John Kerry's Vietnam War service medals were earned under "fishy" circumstances
Status: False
(Excerpt) Read more at snopes.com ...
Thoughts? Story already been shot full of holes by the Swift Boat veterans for the truth?
The people that run snopes are far left scumbags!
Kerry's medals were all awarded according to whatever protocol was in place for the awards at the time. As far as that goes, they are all award by the appropriate process at the time.
That isn't the point. The point is that people shouldn't be putting in *their own* chits for medals. It is technically workable, but it displays a lack of class and lack of respect for the others that went before.
I think the "fishy" charge stands.
Note in particular how foolhardy he was in leaving the boat, which he should not have done. Even those congratulating him for his heroism noted that it's a pretty brain dead thing to do.
I have never served in the military, so people who do should feel free to contradict me, but getting out after four months feels a bit weird. It seems more like Kerry knew how to game the system to reduce his risk, and did. He did just enough service to show that he did, and then fled. It seems a little calculated and perhaps not a demonstration of the best character.
In the end, I'd call that fishy.
Thoughts?
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Not only are they leftists, but they really don't do thorough research.
Their work is both sloppy and politically biased.
That is the thing that has always bothered me. I would have never occurred to me that anyone would actually have the gall to submit his/her own name on a application for an award for valor.
Oh heck, I know that the awards program has been subject to abuse for as long as it has been in existence -- but every other case I have heard about involves people just writing up their friends/classmate/coworkers and so forth.
But to actually have the nerve to walk into the office, write up the paperwork with your own name on top? That's taking chutzpah a level beyond anything I can actually imagine.
snopes is a very bad web site to get info from.
many times...they show major leftwing bias and make claims that a story is false....even though folks like CNN and ABC, as well as facts made public prove the story true.
Stuff that makes the dems look bad...will usually be marked false by them.
Snopes is a joke.
Roger that. Technically speaking, somebody can but in their own chits for awards, but it is and has always been an extremely tacky move.
Nobody, but nobody, however, would have the unbelievable gall to put in their own name for anything like a silver star or above. That would be wrong.
Kerry declined a request from the Globe to sign a waiver authorizing the release of military documents that are covered under the Privacy Act and that might shed more light on the extent of the treatment Kerry needed as a result of the wounds.
What's he hiding? My guess is that the wounds were minor at best and nearly non-existent at worst. There may also be medical info that indicates exaggeration on the part of Kerry, or skepticism that he was really entitled to all of his medals.
Regardless of whether he deserved the medals, I find it really hypocritical that a guy who rails against tax loopholes and breaks for the rich used a military loophole intended to give a serviceman serving with extraordinary valor and/or serious injury a pass to go home. He had the Purple Hearts, but nothing resembling a serious injury, and no compelling reason he couldn't serve out his tour of duty. Instead he conveniently, IMHO, cut and run. No I don't think I would have done the same thing he did.
And what's with all the pics? Did he bring his own camera crew with him to record his military service for future political value? If so, how craven.
And if W gets the anal exam on his ANG service, the least we can ask for is total transparency with regards to Kerry's record....
...oops, forgot, he's a lib. The standards don't apply to his military record, his divorce, or his (supposed) annulment. Nothing to see here, just move on.
Yep.
Folks in the liberal media and the snopes type want to avoid talking about some of the facts that the Good Doctor presents.
I read where the Doctor had told that some of the people who were with Kerry in that area had told the Doctor that Kerry had fire at the shoreline rocks.
The libs always talk about the doctor signing off on a document. WELL...HE DID NOT SIGN OFF WHEN FIRST PRESENTED WITH IT. Kerry kept crying about it and pretty much pushed for an appeal on the issue. The Doctor has said that some time later, documents were sent to him and he was told to sign off on some stuff. Seems he was tire of Kerry's bellyaching.
Your point is the single biggest reason why the Kerry people insist that discussing his military record is off-limits and questions his patriotism.
People SHOULD know that he put in for his own medals. I doubt that more than a handful of other soldiers have ever done this in the entire history of the military. I'm also somewhat surprised that it's even allowed. I guess you need to provide for self-reporting in rare case there are no live witnesses.
When you write your own citation, it is always questionable.
Their only source is Kerry;s buddy Doug Brinkley.
It's a wonder that Kerry didn't put himself in for the Congressional Medal of Honor. The fact that he didn't, just shows what a penny ante, punk loser, he really is.
"Far left" probably describes them best. I go to Snopes to check out rumors that go through e-mail, and trust their judgment.
I did the same untill I snoped the Kerry medals.
Silver Star was the highest award that you could get without a Board approving it, IIRC. I recall sometime previous that one of his superiors mentioned that they didn't request a Navy Cross for that reason.
Semper Fi
Kerry = coward who shot off a mortar (playing "hit the cow) and a piece of shrapnel hit him in the arm causing a superficial wound treated with a bandaid, for which he requested a purple heart and then used an arcane NAVREG to get transferred out of Vietnam.
All Legal.
All Slimeball.
Reminds me of another democRAT who lied to a bird colonel that he would join the ROTC in order to get a deferrment, and then once overseas stabbed the man in the back by carrying a flag covered coffin in a mock funeral protest against the United States in Trafalgar Square.
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