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Kerry called for US troops to be dispersed throughout the world and under U.N. control!!
The Harvard Crimson ^ | February 11, 2004 | Zachary Sewart

Posted on 08/18/2004 9:25:47 AM PDT by stockpirate

Old Crimson Interview Reveals A More Radical John Kerry The Crimson reported Kerry called for U.N. control of troops in 1970.

Ten months after returning home from Vietnam, a young John Kerry strolled into the offices of The Harvard Crimson on Feb. 13, 1970 as an obscure underdog in the Democratic Congressional primary. The decorated veteran, honorably discharged after a tour of duty in the Mekong Delta, spoke in fierce terms during his daylong interview with The Crimson’s Samuel Z. Goldhaber ’72.

But almost 34 years later, Kerry’s remarks on American military and intelligence operations vastly diverge from opinions expressed by the present-day Sen. John F. Kerry, D.-Mass., the leading candidate in the Democratic primary for president.

“I’m an internationalist,” Kerry told The Crimson in 1970. “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”

Kerry said he wanted “to almost eliminate CIA activity. The CIA is fighting its own war in Laos and nobody seems to care.”

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Please note: “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”
1 posted on 08/18/2004 9:26:09 AM PDT by stockpirate
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To: stockpirate
“I’m an internationalist,” Kerry told The Crimson in 1970. “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”

Translation: "I`m French and want US troops to be the lap dogs of France."

2 posted on 08/18/2004 9:28:45 AM PDT by Imaverygooddriver (Never forget: "We will take things away from you for the benefit of the common good"-Hitlery Rodham)
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To: stockpirate

The guy has no truth. He will say anything to get elected.

Today before the VFW he said he wouldn't allow the UN to send our troops.

The guy wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him; he has told so many versions and so many lies that he doesn't even know what the real truth is.

Now, after recounting the same story nearly 50 times in the last 30 years, he claims amnesia or CIA secrecy or misunderstanding of the Christmas in Cambodia.

Even Rassmann has two or three version of his own story about being resued by Kerry.

These guys keep throwing out a version to see whether it will stick.


3 posted on 08/18/2004 9:29:58 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: stockpirate
"As a candidate for president, Kerry has said he supports the autonomy of the U.S. military and has never called for a scale-back of CIA operations."

I do believe his call for a massive reduction in intelligence funding makes this a lie.

4 posted on 08/18/2004 9:30:26 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Truth : Liberal as Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: stockpirate

WOW.


5 posted on 08/18/2004 9:34:19 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Sean Hannity; BykrBayb; rwfromkansas; Alamo-Girl; JLO; LakeLady; BUSHdude2000

Ping


6 posted on 08/18/2004 9:34:36 AM PDT by stockpirate (The issues surrounding Kerry in Vietnam is a smoke screen! The real issue is VVAW and the FBI docs!)
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To: MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave

Ping


7 posted on 08/18/2004 9:37:46 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: stockpirate
COASTAL SQUADRON ONE Swift Boat Crew Directory
8 posted on 08/18/2004 9:38:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stockpirate

I wonder what Kerry thinks about our troops being directed by the new Iraq government.


9 posted on 08/18/2004 9:38:58 AM PDT by ex-snook ("BUT ABOVE ALL THINGS, TRUTH BEARETH AWAY THE VICTORY")
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To: stockpirate

This is the way he is going to protect us? United Nations
will not protect the United States..only we will do the job
and anyone who has watched the chaos in the world knows we
are the only leader in the world..not the UN. Kerry is
a nitwit who lives four months at a time...He is the direct
opposite to President Bush who will lead and follow through
on his oath to protect all of us. Jake


10 posted on 08/18/2004 9:39:13 AM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: stockpirate
With all due respect, this is hardly Breaking News material. This came out in February.

I do wonder what JFK has to say about this now.

11 posted on 08/18/2004 9:39:18 AM PDT by SuperSonic (FreeRepublican)
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To: stockpirate

I like the "SCAMBODIA" keyword. That's catchy!


12 posted on 08/18/2004 9:40:51 AM PDT by SuperSonic (FreeRepublican)
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To: SuperSonic
I found no posting on FR concerning the title. And in light of Kerry ripping W concerning his troop reduction plan I think it is relevant.
13 posted on 08/18/2004 9:45:49 AM PDT by stockpirate (The issues surrounding Kerry in Vietnam is a smoke screen! The real issue is VVAW and the FBI docs!)
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To: stockpirate
If you are in the military picture yourself with powder blue helmets saluting Kofi Anan.
14 posted on 08/18/2004 9:49:58 AM PDT by ketchikan
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To: stockpirate

Thanks for the ping, stockpirate. Much appreciated!


15 posted on 08/18/2004 9:52:22 AM PDT by LakeLady (sKerry's fatuity is equaled only by his cowardice.)
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To: Imaverygooddriver

A Democrat says he was inspired to support Bush over Kerry because "It is not who we were, it is who we have become"." http://democrats4bush.com/demcomments.shtml


16 posted on 08/18/2004 9:52:32 AM PDT by bamaroots04
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To: ketchikan

well, this election will decide for me if i am going back into the navy after grad school. Bush definatly, anyone but kerry maybe and kerry no way!


17 posted on 08/18/2004 9:59:18 AM PDT by Docbarleypop (Navy Doc)
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To: stockpirate

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 08/18/2004 10:03:00 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: stockpirate

I sent this to Drudge. Hope he picks it up


19 posted on 08/18/2004 10:05:40 AM PDT by Republican Red (Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
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To: stockpirate
“I’m an internationalist,” Kerry told The Crimson in 1970. “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”

I can't post what I think of that. I can think it though.

20 posted on 08/18/2004 10:05:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: stockpirate; SuperSonic

This has been posted before, but you were right to repost it in view of his VFW speech.


21 posted on 08/18/2004 10:11:28 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: b4its2late

Kerry is totally out of his field when it comes to intelligence...for the love of God, voters, do NOT elect this man as President of the United States!


22 posted on 08/18/2004 10:17:37 AM PDT by smiley (Watch out Dems! I'm a William F. Buckley Conservative!!)
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To: stockpirate

Kerry is crazy.


23 posted on 08/18/2004 10:23:49 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: stockpirate

What is it about French and surrender monkey that go so well together?


24 posted on 08/18/2004 10:34:16 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Sean Hannity; BykrBayb; rwfromkansas; Alamo-Girl; JLO; LakeLady; BUSHdude2000
On NRO: LINK

MORE OLD KERRY STATEMENTS ON REDEPLOYMENT [08/18 12:49 PM]

The Bush campaign researchers must be hip-deep in Lexis-Nexis transcripts by now.

SEN. JOHN KERRY: "The troops of the United States of America are overextended. Their deployments are too long. The families are hurting at home because they lose money from the private sector when they're called up, and they get paid less in the military, and nobody makes it up to them. The fact is if we are going to maintain this level of commitment on a global basis - for the moment we have to, because of what's happened - we need an additional two divisions. One is a combat division, and one is a support division. And that's the responsible thing to do. I've also said, responsibly, that's temporary, because I intend to be a president who goes back to the United Nations, rejoins the community of nations, brings other boots on the ground to help us in the world, and reduces the overall need for deployment of American forces in the globe - and I mean North Korea, Germany and the rest of the world where we can begin to set up a new architecture of participation of other countries." (ABC News/The [Manchester] Union Leader Democrat Presidential Candidates Debate, Manchester, NH, 1/22/04)

EDYE TARBOX: "Thank you. Mr. Kerry, Massachusetts gets about the sixth biggest chunk of defense spending. Given the pressure nationwide to take a peace dividend and cut defense spending, how do you propose to keep defense jobs in our state?" SEN. JOHN KERRY: "Well I intend to try to keep defense jobs in the state the very way I have been doing it. During the course of the last few weeks I have been working diligently on behalf of those defense programs which we ought to have. Those that makes sense for a strong defense for this country and that are realistic in terms of the new threat, as defined by the changes in Europe, and the Soviet Union and the rest of the world. ... I think we ought to stay on the cutting edge, and I think we ought to be doing an enormous amount more to guarantee research and development. We've seen a horrible shift in the last few years away from civilian R & D into military R & D and R & D that doesn't make sense. But we should not be building a B-2 bomber for 858 million dollars for one bomber. We should not be building more MX missiles to deal with the Soviet Union, and we ought to be making savings in our troops in Europe. We're currently paying for 300,000 troops to be in Germany to save the Germans from the Soviet troops that they're paying to leave then to stay. It doesn't make sense and I think we could help Massachusetts by using that money here." (Democrat Senatorial Candidates Debate, Boston, MA, 11/3/90)

I suspect this kind of stuff makes the average voter think that if Bush said the sun was going to set in the west, Kerry would insist that was wrong and obviously it was going to set in the east.
25 posted on 08/18/2004 10:45:19 AM PDT by stockpirate (The issues surrounding Kerry in Vietnam is a smoke screen! The real issue is VVAW and the FBI docs!)
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bumparoonie...

I am glad to see the Crimson dredge up the old article.


26 posted on 08/18/2004 11:05:09 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: stockpirate
Please note: “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”

You know, as one who is pretty critical of GWB (domestically speaking) to begin with...I find this statement and the underlying idealism of John effin Kerry as scary, threatening to our soverignty, not to mention downright treasonous. This little tidbit of info needs some airtime. Right now I don't care if GWB really is the neocon domestic liberal he coming off to be...John Kerry cannot be president of the United States. It sucks...but its reality; it goes against voting on principle...but "U.S. troops under U.N. command" crosses the line where I can put principles aside...for now IMHO.

27 posted on 08/18/2004 11:06:07 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: stockpirate

You know, I will give Kerry the benefit of the doubt on his youthful indescretions that are now tempered by age and hopefully wisdom. When I was young, it was "expected" to be a flaming liberal. Radical Chic was hip-environmentalism, UN, feed the homeless, blah, blah, blah. As you get older and reflect on the inherent absurdity of these viewpoints, you tend to lean to the right. And I am sure 95% of you know where I am coming from. What troubles me about Kerry is his record as a Senator. That ladies & gents is where the problem is. His voting record has reflected a linear progressivism from his youthfull ideals until today and that to me is unsettling.

This man is still in 1968!!!


28 posted on 08/18/2004 11:06:45 AM PDT by bubman
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

see post 25


29 posted on 08/18/2004 11:14:19 AM PDT by stockpirate (The issues surrounding Kerry in Vietnam is a smoke screen! The real issue is VVAW and the FBI docs!)
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To: stockpirate

A whole bunch of us have been telling everyone for the past year that this was his intention. We were telling the truth. That includes Iraq. He never had any intention of bringing our troops ho,e as he mentioned today. He just wants them under the control of Saddam's co-conspirators - who fled Iraq after the Ba'athist thugs they hired as guards blew up their embassy.


30 posted on 08/18/2004 11:47:07 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
**SIGH** "ho,e" was supposed to be HOME.
31 posted on 08/18/2004 11:48:56 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: EdReform


32 posted on 08/18/2004 11:58:25 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: stockpirate
“I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”

So is this where he plans on getting the additional 40,000 troops from .. The UN ???

33 posted on 08/18/2004 12:04:05 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: stockpirate
Translation: John Fing Kerry is a lying, Communist, traitorous, dangerous, deceitful, International Elitist, anti-American subversive. If he is elected there will be a Civil War, precipitated by the Communist Whacko Cabal that we even see are already planning attacks, disorder, chaos and violence, for NYC during the RNC. We have no choice but to elect Bush at this point...desperately.
34 posted on 08/18/2004 12:08:52 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Imaverygooddriver

KAREN HUGHES, KAREN HUGHES, KAREN HUGHES

Have you sent this stuff to the talking heads?


35 posted on 08/18/2004 12:11:11 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: TomGuy

Oh, you can bet your sweet bippie Kerry's an International Communist...you can see that by now, right?


36 posted on 08/18/2004 12:11:34 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: stockpirate

Great keywords there!!!


37 posted on 08/18/2004 12:15:24 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: ApesForEvolution; Mo1

see post 25


38 posted on 08/18/2004 12:18:39 PM PDT by stockpirate (The issues surrounding Kerry in Vietnam is a smoke screen! The real issue is VVAW and the FBI docs!)
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To: stockpirate

"“I’m an internationalist,” Kerry told The Crimson in 1970. “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”"

No surprise to me. It's far easier to oppress your own people when the watchdog is busy beating up the neighbors.


39 posted on 08/18/2004 12:21:26 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Goodnight Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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To: bubman

Americans might want an International Communist, John Kerry, to hand the nation over to the benevolent and marvelous world government, the UN??

The 60s crowd IS our educational and bureaucratic system in America now...the sheeple have been well fattened by the 80s and 90s, maybe it's time for the slaughter so thinks John Fing Kerry and his merry band of thugs, liars and criminals.

BTW, does anyone think red Communist china is going to allow Taiwan (Chinese Taipei is their lack of recognition in Athens '04) into Beijing for the Oympics in '08? I do, because the redComms are planning on the Taiwanese, or, Chinese Taipei, to be playing WITH the redComms by then...


40 posted on 08/18/2004 12:24:17 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: stockpirate

Nice. Hey, the enemy within has learned how to abuse the virtues of our Republic's political machine...they've mastered it and MSM is TOTALLY in bed with International Communism (aka Socialism).


41 posted on 08/18/2004 12:28:59 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: stockpirate

If Kerry felt that way in 1970-he feels that way today-the only thing that ever changes about socialist, liberal hippies, is their eternally evoluting bait and the manner in which they dangle it before the suckers they are stalking.


42 posted on 08/18/2004 1:52:29 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( Kerry thinks nothing of blowing a thousand of Teri's bucks on his mane-can America afford this punk)
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To: bubman
When I was young, it was "expected" to be a flaming liberal.

I think a lot of younger people don't understand how the entire country, from around the Forties through the Eighties identified itself as 'liberal'. In much the same way as the average person now identifies themselves as 'conservative'. Of course, the labels become meaningless when applied to such large groups of people.

That is the era when most of today's news anchors and editors came of age. So for people like Rather/Jennings/Brokaw, they still consider themselves liberal even if they won't use the word. And they think there is something wrong anyone who isn't.
43 posted on 08/18/2004 2:12:16 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: stockpirate
*Yawn*

This is 30-35 years old. Back then, PJ O'Rourke was railing against the "fascists" running this country and a drunken GW Bush was challenging his father to a fistfight in the family living room.

Did Kerry introduce Senate resoulutions to place US forces under UN control? Did he move to gut the CIA while in office?

In other words, BFD what he said while at school. There's so much else to question Kerry on without wasting time on this stuff.

44 posted on 08/18/2004 2:36:59 PM PDT by LincolnLover (Nader/Camejo 2004: Yeah, Libs, That's The Ticket!)
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To: LincolnLover
BFD to your YAWN and I'll raise you post 25.

He tried to cut the Intell budget drastically and even his fellow libs wound not go along. But you know that.

Kerry was doing double naught spy stuff and believing he was in Cambodia.

And took part in discussions to assassinate seven US Senators. So lets see which is worse a drunk GWB or a person that is part of a "Terrorist Group?" I'll report, you decide, but you probley are busy drinking the kool-aid.
45 posted on 08/18/2004 3:00:13 PM PDT by stockpirate (The issues surrounding Kerry in Vietnam is a smoke screen! The real issue is VVAW and the FBI docs!)
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To: stockpirate
Another flipflop from the flipflopper:

Carl Cameron is reporting that just 3 weeks ago in another speech, Kerry was advocating significantly reducing troops overseas, 'Korean peninsula, perhaps', Europe, etc.

Today at the VFW, Kerry decrys GWB's plan to reduce troops as a bad idea.
46 posted on 08/18/2004 3:08:29 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: LincolnLover

see post 46.....


47 posted on 08/18/2004 3:37:08 PM PDT by stockpirate (The issues surrounding Kerry in Vietnam is a smoke screen! The real issue is VVAW and the FBI docs!)
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To: stockpirate
This article has been posted to DoctorZin’s New News Blog!


48 posted on 08/18/2004 3:52:31 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: stockpirate; All
But almost 34 years later, Kerry’s remarks on American military and intelligence operations vastly diverge from opinions expressed by the present-day Sen. John F. Kerry, D.-Mass., the leading candidate in the Democratic primary for president

This paragraph is WRONG

Kerry doesn't waffle,on U.N. control.

49 posted on 08/18/2004 5:10:19 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: stockpirate
almost eliminate CIA activity

That explains the voting record. Why bother showing up if your mind is already made?

50 posted on 08/18/2004 7:30:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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