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Live Thread: Ben Barnes and CBS Attempt Another Bush Smear (60 Minutes)
www.freerepublic.com | September 8, 2004

Posted on 09/08/2004 4:39:18 PM PDT by Howlin

Have at him!


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To: pacocat

They are NOT documents. They are supposedly "personal notes" of a CO. There very well may be bogus, just like your paranoia!

LLS


341 posted on 09/08/2004 7:11:43 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Continued Job creation will not matter, if kerry "Outsources" our National Defense!)
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To: Howlin
"Hannity just said he did."

Thanks for the verification.

342 posted on 09/08/2004 7:14:43 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: TankerKC
They're changing their story then. This video shows Barnes CLEARLY claiming that he did it as Lite Guv. http://69.59.167.160/media/Barnes%20on%20Vietnam%20-%20RAW%20FEED.mov

The left wing media (as in the nationwide AP wire that was picked up by virtually every paper in the country) INTENTIONALLY excerpted that part out of their quote when they wrote a story on the video. They're covering Barnes' tracks for him.

343 posted on 09/08/2004 7:14:47 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Did anyone have any idea at all what Dan Rather was talking about when he said that Barnes was at long last "breaking his silence?"

Didn't Rather do any background research on this? Barnes has been breaking silence, he's actuallt been braying, loudly, about this for years.

344 posted on 09/08/2004 7:15:19 PM PDT by cookcounty (The NY TIMES: "All the 'Sissy News' That's Unfit to Print")
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To: Common Tator

They promote the spin even when to anyone who knows the facts , the spin is nothing but a bunch of lies.

%%%%%%


Luckily there are millions of Americans who were draft age in the '60s (or who are wives of '60s draft age men), and no matter how the willfully-ignorant media try to spin this, the facts of President Bush's Natinal Guard Service cannot be sold as incomplete or inadequate in any way.


345 posted on 09/08/2004 7:16:53 PM PDT by maica
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To: BamaDi

As I recall it, we (USAF) changed to match the rest of the DoD.


346 posted on 09/08/2004 7:16:59 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: rocklobster11
From you link

What has never surfaced before, reports CBS News Anchor Dan Rather, are four documents from the personal files of Col. Jerry Killian, Mr. Bush's squadron commander. They could help answer lingering questions on whether Lt. Bush received special consideration during his military service.

Why would Bush's files be in Killian's files??

347 posted on 09/08/2004 7:17:52 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: BamaDi
Off the subject. I go to the library this afternoon and a car pulls in along side mine with a Kerry bumper sticker.

I have a wonderful BUSH/CHENEY tote bag...quite large that I use to carry my books back and forth. I plop it right on the counter...standing upright......and leave it there while I just happen to look for new books. LOLOL.....I didnt' intend to take any new books but just had to leave that bag on the counter while the guy was there!!!

When he left, I left!!! LOL....smiling all the way home.

348 posted on 09/08/2004 7:20:12 PM PDT by OldFriend (GIVE EM ZELL)
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To: Mo1
Where did Dan say these memos were found?

Berger's undercrackers?

349 posted on 09/08/2004 7:22:51 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: pacocat
These are memos that Killian kept

How long ago did killian pass away?

350 posted on 09/08/2004 7:23:22 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: GOPcapitalist

60 minutes changes to a new version of the truth without even batting an eye.


351 posted on 09/08/2004 7:24:10 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: mass55th

Sean reported today on his radio show, that Bush did actually sign form 180. It was also reported again tonight, and referenced in a story about President Bush letting the Pentagon know how miffed he was at how they have handled his records. The Presidents COS had to remind the Pentagon that it was the President's form 180 that had originally requested the records be released!!

kerry will be forced to sign, or it is the end for his campaign realistically.

LLS


352 posted on 09/08/2004 7:24:36 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Continued Job creation will not matter, if kerry "Outsources" our National Defense!)
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To: GOPcapitalist

From the video file and today's interview Barnes claimes he helps lots of rich kids get into the Guard...WHO THEN? We need names in order to chek out his claims.


353 posted on 09/08/2004 7:26:31 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: maica
Few if any in the media ever served in the guard, reserves, as a draftee or as a regular. They have no concept of military service.

As a reusult they tend to believe what Kerry says about the nasty American toops.

Three million served in Nam... another 3 million served at that time but were in Europe or other parts of Asia.

That makes 6 million served and peraps another 12 to 18 million influenced by those who served.

Half of those 24 million people are Democrats. I think Kerry has lost about 5 or 6 million of those people due to the Switft Boat story. They are not likely to come back to Kerry,

354 posted on 09/08/2004 7:26:33 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: CedarDave

Thanks for the heads up. I just rechecked my donation confirmation receipt from earlier today, and it's definitely from the Swift Boat vets.


355 posted on 09/08/2004 7:26:45 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: Howlin
Did Bush sign one?

I think he did

On Special Report tonight .. Brit did a report about how the Bush Admin was annoyed at the Pentagon because 3 times they were sent a letter from the Pentagon assuring the administration that ALL records were released as requested by President Bush .. even though they (Pentagon) keep finding new documents

I got the feeling someone in the Pentagon is playing games with his the release of the records .. but that's just my opinion

356 posted on 09/08/2004 7:29:21 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Howlin

I found this site it has an exerpt of the Ben Barnes interview.http://www.texansforkerry.com/texansforkerry/


357 posted on 09/08/2004 7:29:50 PM PDT by tapatio (Society is always taken by surprise at any new example of common sense.)
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To: Mo1
Why would Bush's files be in Killian's files??

That's the question. They were supposedly non-official memos that his CO kept conterporaneously. How did they come to light just recently? Where have they been? Why did his CO keep personal memos on Bush?

Given that they were not part of the official record, and he is dead now, and therefore unable to give us anymore information, who cares?

358 posted on 09/08/2004 7:29:55 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: NavyCanDo

On one of talk shows today I heard a woman saying she was surprised that she had received a check from FEMA just three days after she filed her claim. She hadn't thought she'd hear anything for weeks.


359 posted on 09/08/2004 7:30:30 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: Timeout

I saved the True Story link. Thanks.


360 posted on 09/08/2004 7:32:14 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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