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CBS'S BIG BLUNDER? (Credits Free Republic)
New York Post ^ | 9/10/04 | JOHN PODHORETZ

Posted on 09/09/2004 10:31:38 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 09/09/2004 10:55:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

September 10, 2004 -- THE populist revolu tion against the so- called mainstream media continues. Yesterday, the citizen journalists who produce blogs on the Internet — and their engaged readers — engaged in the wholesale exposure of what appears to be a presidential-year dirty trick against George W. Bush. What the bloggers and their audiences did was call into profound question the authenticity of four documents proudly trumpeted by CBS News in a much-heralded investigative report on Wednesday night's edition of "60 Minutes" about the president's National Guard service in the early 1970s.

These were "previously unseen documents . . . obtained by '60 Minutes,' " the network bragged Wednesday night on its Web site. Their author, supposedly, was Bush's squadron commander, Jerry Killian, who died 20 years ago.

They "include a memorandum from May 1972," CBS reports, "where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about 'how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November.' " A document dated "18 August 1973" complains that Killian is being asked to "sugar coat" Bush's record. "I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job," the document says.

Liberals went wild with glee about the story, especially after the onslaught on John Kerry's Vietnam record by his fellow Swift-boat veterans.

Kevin Drum, the most talented of the left-wing bloggers, wrote: "This story is a perfect demonstration of the difference between the Swift-boat controversy and the National Guard controversy. Both are tales from long ago and both are related to Vietnam, but . . . in the National Guard case, practically every new piece of documentary evidence provides additional confirmation that the charges against Bush are true."

[snip]The Minneapolis lawyers who run powerlineblog.com were on the case early. Two of the blog's readers directed their attention to a note left on an Internet bulletin board on the freerepublic.com Web site, the 47th posting on the topic there. Post No. 47 pointed out that there was something off about these documents from the 1970s: The spacing between the letters and the words was proportional, and only a few IBM electric typewriters could achieve that effect back then.

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To: Travis McGee

Here is post #47




To: Howlin
Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively.



47 posted on 09/08/2004 11:59:43 PM EDT by Buckhead
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61 posted on 09/09/2004 10:48:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kattracks
From the article, "...the editors and producers ...have been unmasked by ordinary people who can see what they and their hired experts evidently could not."

Score one for the ordinary people.

62 posted on 09/09/2004 10:48:48 PM PDT by radiohead (Burn in hell, Kerry.)
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To: Unmarked Package

Haven't seen poor Buckhead all day...wonder if he/she knows what's happened today?


63 posted on 09/09/2004 10:48:48 PM PDT by spyone (Haven't)
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To: Carling

the answer is BUCKHEAD...

Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively.



47 posted on 09/08/2004 8:59:43 PM PDT by Buckhead


64 posted on 09/09/2004 10:48:56 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: faithincowboys; Buckhead

Post #47 will be forever know as "Deep-Font" (Actually I believe it was Buckhead. Am I correct BH? Howlin just started the thread and told everyone to "go at it"....SHe's the instigator.


65 posted on 09/09/2004 10:49:04 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Bush Democrats = Zell's Angels)
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To: self_evident; Buckhead
Seems like you should get a bump on this heh.

Or even a call very late on November 2 from the White House.

66 posted on 09/09/2004 10:49:35 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: kattracks

The problem is not, as some would have it, that Barnes has raised half a million dollars for Kerry. The problem is that Barnes has already lied about this on videotape, and I use the word "lied" without difficulty, where he says he pulled strings for Bush when "I was lieutenant governor of Texas."

The thing is that George W. Bush was sworn into the National Guard in May 1968. Ben Barnes didn't become lieutenant governor until 1969.





Freepers, we talked about this!

Rock On!


67 posted on 09/09/2004 10:50:09 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: IPWGOP

another good one!


68 posted on 09/09/2004 10:50:12 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: kattracks
It was also lovely to see him mention this little gem that leftie media keeps ignoring...

"The problem is not, as some would have it, that Barnes has raised half a million dollars for Kerry. The problem is that Barnes has already lied about this on videotape, and I use the word "lied" without difficulty, where he says he pulled strings for Bush when "I was lieutenant governor of Texas."

The thing is that George W. Bush was sworn into the National Guard in May 1968. Ben Barnes didn't become lieutenant governor until 1969.

69 posted on 09/09/2004 10:51:28 PM PDT by Tamzee (The NYT.... All the news that pink to print)
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To: Howlin
27 posted on 09/10/2004 12:42:12 AM CDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)

Perma-Tag?

70 posted on 09/09/2004 10:51:28 PM PDT by 1stMarylandRegiment (Carry a BIG stick.)
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To: kattracks

71 posted on 09/09/2004 10:51:32 PM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: Mad Dawgg
Hi Everyone over at DUh, hope you all are enjoying this as much as we are!

They are still in denial. They have resorted to calling Jerry's widowed wife a B*tch,

and the experts are now "so called experts".

72 posted on 09/09/2004 10:51:53 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Tax Government

"suggesting forgery, is huge."

Yes, using a Federal Agency Letterhead will make it a Federal crime. But, then, we have Republicans at the helm, so nothing will be done about it. Shame, shame, shame!

What happened to Sandy Berger? Alive and well, not in prison. Sick, sick, sick.


73 posted on 09/09/2004 10:51:55 PM PDT by olinr
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To: kattracks
How can the post still be recycling this article

Questions Raised About Bush Guard Service

This is dated 10 Sept

What's going on here?

74 posted on 09/09/2004 10:52:01 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: rolling_stone

Duly noted. I believe Howlin gave credit to BH and someone else in this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1211645/replies?c=523


75 posted on 09/09/2004 10:52:10 PM PDT by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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To: RandallFlagg

It would be good on the back of a truck, SUV or any car.


76 posted on 09/09/2004 10:52:14 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Kerry = The Wrong Candidate in the Wrong Country at the Wrong Time (post 9/11)!)
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To: Grampa Dave

77 posted on 09/09/2004 10:52:35 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Howlin

I just found Buckhead's post, too. Looks like he's the famous "post 47". Congratulations!!


78 posted on 09/09/2004 10:52:38 PM PDT by fetts
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To: hoosiermama
Post #47 will be forever know as "Deep-Font"

This really just slays me!!

79 posted on 09/09/2004 10:52:49 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: hoosiermama; All

Buckhead really is a hero. Wow. I am in awe. I instinctively thought it was a forgery, but I would never be able to say technically why I thought so. It's so cool that Buckeye could.

I wish we could some how get a webcam of Rather in the fetal position. You know that's the state he's in right now...


80 posted on 09/09/2004 10:53:00 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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