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Biggest Loser on Nov. 2 Was Press, Not John Kerry, Say 21 Columns
Editor and Publisher ^ | 11/29/04 | Erin Olson

Posted on 11/29/2004 2:29:35 PM PST by chiller

NEW YORK Feeling a bit lost lately? You should, at least according to a compendium posted today at Jay Rosen’s popular PressThink Web log, because the biggest loser on Election Day was not John Kerry but the mainstream media.

Daniel Henninger, writing in The Wall Street Journal’s Opinion Journal, put it this way: "It is often said that the only sure winner in American politics is the media. Amid GOP victory parties or the ruined dreams of the Kerry candidacy, the one constant is that the media marches on. Maybe not this time. Big Media lost big."

"I was interested in figuring out why so many people were saying it and surveying the range of reasons they might have had," explained Rosen, a press critic, author, and chairman of the New York University journalism program. "It's a little experiment in unbiased media criticism, because it's simply presenting what these writers said. I could have commented on each one -- because I'm a press critic, I have a lot to say -- but I thought it might be more interesting just to let them speak."

And speak they did. From an editorial in Investor's Business Daily to an Associated Press article, Rosen provided excerpts and links to "the same idea," he said, "served 21 ways: 'Media, you lost big.'"

Most of the writers Rosen quoted expressed the opinion that liberal bias in the press became more apparent than ever during the election, even taking the stance that the media was actively trying to get Kerry elected.

The Nov. 2 Investor's Business Daily editorial stated, "By press time last night, we weren't sure who would be the winner of the 2004 presidential contest. But we were certain of one big loser: the media. We've watched in slack-jawed amazement over recent weeks as the big media, fearful of another four years for President Bush, have basically become an unpaid adjunct to the Kerry campaign."

On Nov. 3, Glenn Reynolds posted an entry in his blog, Instapundit, titled, "Bitter, Angry Losers." He went on to say, "No, not the Democrats, but the real losers in this election -- the Old Media, still angry that they couldn't deliver their fifteen percent."

Peggy Noonan on Nov. 4, also in Opinion Journal, went wild over the whole idea. After affirming that “the biggest loser was the mainstream media,” she added that conservative bloggers had slain the dragon: “It was to me a great historical development in the history of politics in America. It was Agincourt. It was the yeomen of King Harry taking down the French aristocracy with new technology and rough guts. God bless the pajama-clad yeomen of America.”

Vincent Fiore wrote on Nov. 7 about "Winners and Losers of Election 2004" at the ChronWatch site: "Loser: The Old Media. ... Staunchly opposed to Bush throughout his first term, the prospect of a second four years in office exposed the deep-seated bias among the old media and forever revealed themselves to the public at large."

On Nov. 15, Michael Barone wrote on townhall.com, "It was a bad election for old media. ... It no longer has the kind of monopoly control over political news that it enjoyed a quarter-century ago. And its efforts to help John Kerry proved counterproductive."

Rosen told E&P that he collected and posted the links because he found the claims fascinating. "I just think it's worth reflecting on, that's all," he explained. "Half my motivation was, I'm interested in what other people make of the same stuff."

In drawing his own conclusions from the material he found, Rosen said, "I think the particular discourse of media bias is one that has become dysfunctional. I've said at my Web log that the more you believe it, the dumber you get."

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erin Olson (eolson@editorandpublisher.com) is a reporter at E&P.


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To: wvobiwan

AMEN!


21 posted on 11/29/2004 3:38:18 PM PST by buffyt (If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die.)
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To: woodb01

Please keep us posted! ;-D


22 posted on 11/29/2004 3:40:10 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: chiller

God bless the pajamahadeen! :)


23 posted on 11/29/2004 3:47:34 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: bert; ForGod'sSake
>ping<

For your perusal & especially comments.

I for one automatically smell something fishy on those rare occasions when one or more of the quislings making up the mainstream Liberal-Socialist quisling media start telling us what we've long known.

And when it's a *Journalism Professor* saying it the smell rapidly deteriorates.

...to a stench.

24 posted on 11/29/2004 3:55:14 PM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: wvobiwan
Rosen surprised me with his last comment. It showed me he was actually objective about the treatment Old Media gave to W, despite his apparent left leanings.

I'll tip my hat to him for that reason. It's that much ore valid coming from one of "THEM."

25 posted on 11/29/2004 4:09:01 PM PST by chiller (1 down (Jf'nK) and 1 to go (old media))
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To: oldbrowser
At last an answer to the riddle of what to do with freedom of the press when the press is corrupt.

You said it well!

It was finally shown, to the satisfaction of a lot of people who live in red states, that the press (media) is indeed corrupt.

And what appeared to be a blatant attempt at a coup d'etat was forestalled by Freepers who showed, to anyone who looked at the evidence, that the memos attacking the president from "incontrovertable sources" were fakes.

Darn! Sorry about that, Dan. NOT!!!!

26 posted on 11/29/2004 4:09:53 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: woodb01

Very nice! Bookmarked!


27 posted on 11/29/2004 4:13:52 PM PST by Budge (<><)
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To: chiller
The MSM has been slain, but don't expect it to remain dead for long. There is still a market for it, but not what they're currently selling.

The MSM will shift to the right, I think, in order to stay relevant. This will not come easily or without major internal fights. But it must do so in order to survive, and the bucks are too big for it not to.

If they become neutral, we should applaud them. Until then, and I expect this will be at least a decade in coming, we should assail them.

28 posted on 11/29/2004 4:16:48 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Southack
1. Win the Presidential election 2. Burn the fatcat Democratic political donors 3. Discredit the mainstream news media

We're 3 for 3.

4. Dethrone Tom Dashole

4 for 4

29 posted on 11/29/2004 4:17:02 PM PST by evad (DUmmie FUnnies and Pookie Toons-the start of a nice day)
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To: chiller
The MSM and the Democrats are one in the same.They both harbor hate that is very strong.IMHO the American people are sick and tired of the hate mongers.
30 posted on 11/29/2004 4:19:38 PM PST by solo gringo (Liberal democrats are swamp leaches)
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To: evad
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
And "gentlemen" in France and Germany, and 'round the world, shall think themselves accursed, and hold their manhoods cheap, whiles any speaks that fought with us in Iraq.
31 posted on 11/29/2004 4:20:57 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

61 MILLION VOTERS vs. 60 MINUTES

32 posted on 11/29/2004 4:27:39 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: chiller; weegee

33 posted on 11/29/2004 4:32:59 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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To: chiller; weegee; MeekOneGOP
"Requiescat in fracta!"


34 posted on 11/29/2004 4:34:37 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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To: chiller
As "The Great One" used to say;

"How Sweet It Is!"

35 posted on 11/29/2004 4:35:49 PM PST by fella
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To: chiller
In drawing his own conclusions from the material he found, Rosen said, "I think the particular discourse of media bias is one that has become dysfunctional. I've said at my Web log that the more you believe it, the dumber you get."

I dunno... isn't he saying that the "discourse" (discussion) has become dysfunctional, and that the more one believes in a liberal media bias, the dumber you are (or become)? Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

36 posted on 11/29/2004 4:36:18 PM PST by badbass
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To: woodb01

Excellent work Woodb01.

The screams and outrageous articles from the mediots will increase as they start to realize that their days in the sun are over.


37 posted on 11/29/2004 4:38:29 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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To: weegee

38 posted on 11/29/2004 4:41:00 PM PST by martin_fierro (00111100 00100000 01111100 00111010 00101001 01111110)
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To: Grampa Dave

I'm LOLing here! Brilliant!


39 posted on 11/29/2004 4:46:39 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: chiller
And other than Rather, this guy is the biggest loser among losers:

Lawrence O'Donnell

40 posted on 11/29/2004 4:49:02 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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