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Gonzales backs assault weapons ban
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | January 18, 2005 | JESSE J. HOLLAND

Posted on 01/18/2005 12:33:16 PM PST by snowsislander

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To: snowsislander

Gonzales is unfit for office.


41 posted on 01/18/2005 1:11:37 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Stew Padasso
Yep, playing politics with the 2A as opposed to the principled arguments of it's importance.

Yes, that's what we need, for Gonzales to take a "principled stand" on the AWB, propounding upon watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants.

That would make you feel mighty proud.

The fact that it would get Alberto drummed out of Washington in a minute and a half by the MSM is not your concern.

So what if we win the battle but lose the war, as long as you get to feel good?

42 posted on 01/18/2005 1:12:13 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah, yeah, brilliant strategy. Instead of advocating the correct position, advocate the INCORRECT one, and trust that Congress won't send it up. Worked so well with CFR.


43 posted on 01/18/2005 1:12:34 PM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Now I get. He is defusing the entire issue exactly like Dubya did.
It is Congress's job to keep an AWB renewal from hitting the President's desk.

It is the Presidents job to make it clear that he would veto any bill that infringed on our RKBA's..

44 posted on 01/18/2005 1:12:51 PM PST by jonestown ( A fanatic is a person who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." ~ Winston Churchill)
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To: MineralMan
"As far as I could tell, Ashcroft was not a supporter of the AWB."
I don't remember him speaking on the issue at all.

That's precisely what Gonzales should have done -- stated that it was not his place to take sides on a purely political question.

He absolutely should not have sabotaged the GOP side by offering red-mean anti-gun-rights quotes, but that's exactly what he gratuitously chose to do.

45 posted on 01/18/2005 1:13:25 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: jonestown
It is the Presidents job to make it clear that he would veto any bill that infringed on our RKBA's..

Yes, that's what we need, for Gonzales to take a "principled stand" on the AWB, propounding upon watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants.

That would make you feel mighty proud, wouldn't it?

The fact that it would get Alberto drummed out of Washington in a minute and a half by the MSM is not your concern.

So what if we win the battle but lose the war, as long as you get to feel good?

46 posted on 01/18/2005 1:13:47 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

"Have you ever been in a job interview and told the man what he wanted to hear?"

There is a little more at stake here then some ambitious applicant fluffing up a resume.


47 posted on 01/18/2005 1:14:24 PM PST by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This treatment of the issue makes it impossible for the MSM to demagague Gonzales.

Exactly right.

But don't expect the petulant reactionaries to see passed their noses. They never do.


48 posted on 01/18/2005 1:14:44 PM PST by rdb3 (The wife asked how I slept last night. I said, "How do I know? I was sleep!")
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To: Huck

Good to know prior to any judicial opening: we don't need another Dave Souter.


49 posted on 01/18/2005 1:15:48 PM PST by Meldrim
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To: rdb3
But don't expect the petulant reactionaries to see passed their noses. They never do.

That's because they have their noses so high in the air.

50 posted on 01/18/2005 1:15:58 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

More fear mongering from the politically expedient. Gonzales made himself clear, he is a "symbolic" gun grabber.


51 posted on 01/18/2005 1:16:38 PM PST by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: jonestown
Why are you attempting to stir up a hornet's nest when there are no hornets in the nest?

There is no stomach for gun control legislation in Congress, nobody's even talking about gun control legislation, yet you continue to bait with one statement that Gonzales made in a throw-away line.

52 posted on 01/18/2005 1:17:24 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: Meldrim
Good to know prior to any judicial opening: we don't need another Dave Souter.

Why? You think the kool aid drinkers won't support him anyway? Haven't you heard? GWB is infallible. Bow to his will.

53 posted on 01/18/2005 1:19:59 PM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: Stew Padasso

With a keyword search and a few minutes you could probably find out for sure.


54 posted on 01/18/2005 1:20:26 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: sinkspur
The AWB is dead. Tom DeLay has promised to keep it dead.

You think Tom Delay controls Congress? Keep whistling, -- & dreaming.

Actually, Tom DeLay DOES control the House of Representatives. Surely you know that.
You're bordering on paranoia.

How is it paranoid to claim that one man does not control Congress?
-- Or, - to want ALL Congressmen & Executive officials to honor their oaths to our Constitution?

55 posted on 01/18/2005 1:22:38 PM PST by jonestown ( A fanatic is a person who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." ~ Winston Churchill)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Not a wise arguement. Sidetracking your true convictions to please the MSM is not the way to go. Which I'll wager is not what Mr. Gonzales is doing.


56 posted on 01/18/2005 1:22:43 PM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We succeeded in effectively repealing the AWB, which in itself is astonishing.

No, it sunset. Big difference. It required the Congress to do NOTHING, something they excel at. A repeal would have required fortitude and purposeful action, in other words it would never have happened.

57 posted on 01/18/2005 1:22:54 PM PST by MileHi
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To: rdb3
This treatment of the issue makes it impossible for the MSM to demagague Gonzales.

What a joke. When in your lifetime have you seen ANYTHING prevent the left from demagoguing. The notion is divorced from reality. Now that he and the president are on the record as supporting the ban, they are totally at the whim of the Congress. Which, considering GW's veto pen is still in the wrapper, is nothing new.

58 posted on 01/18/2005 1:22:55 PM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: Stew Padasso
Gonzales made himself clear, he is a "symbolic" gun grabber.

An attitude like that will get you a real gun grabber come next election.

59 posted on 01/18/2005 1:23:15 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Huck
When in your lifetime have you seen ANYTHING prevent the left from demagoguing.

We just witnessed it with the sunset of the AWB.

Ari Fleischer (not Bush) said the President would sign it if it hit his desk, but it didn't because the press had no easy target to attack over the issue.

60 posted on 01/18/2005 1:25:02 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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