Skip to comments.Putin: Terror rooted in USSR breakup
Posted on 11/01/2005 5:06:38 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday his country's problem with terrorism is rooted in the breakup of the Soviet Union.
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Just like the Chinese are a capitalist society, and Vietam is coming close to being one. China is more capitolist than Russia is, and has the same level of personal liberties.
And it is why China fears breaking up too. Too many Islamists in the Western provences of the PRC.
China is controlled directly by the Communist party, a one party rule that still controls the heights of industry, which in this case is actually a fascist strategy.
So Putin wants to put the USSR back together??
I wonder why the Lenin's mummy's issue is important for some people.
If you buy Mr. Putin's dribble you should go and post on DU.
If the USSR stil was in existence would we really expect the Mooselimb problem to be any better? I'd think that the USSR would probably be stirring up and arming the likes of Al Qaeda.
And, under the law of unintended consequences, gave birth to al-queda.
"Problem is, you've just described every Islamic's dream state. As long as the Russians can't take control (militarily or economically) of these regions, terrorism will flourish and much of it WILL find its way to us, just like always. As for us, our positions there are untenable in the long run, as there are no ports or allied nations with adequate infrastructure to support a sizable force."
And the problem is that you have correctly described the situation.
On the other hand we don't want the Kremlin to return to heavy handed tactics that would force us to treat them adversarily.
It's a delicate balance and the administration seems to be doing fairly well. It was certainly encouraging to see Putin talking about not running for a third term.
Furthermore, if only the communists were gotten rid of, Russia (as in all of the USSR) would have resembled the old Empire, as it's doing anyways, and yes, they would have pushed the Islamics down, just like they did before.
Starting with Tsarina Elizabeth, the Muslim lands were open to missionaries from all denominations of Christianity.
That's what many in the West can't get through their heads. They want to keep thinking of the Russians in the frame of the 1970s, Russians think of themselves in the frame of the 1910s and the reality on the ground is nothing in comparisson with the drival that these "experts" pump out...experts, mind you, the majority of which have never stepped foot in Russia (most never stepped foot in the USSR either for that matter).
Somehow I think once that first WMD goes off in an American city and the death toll climbs to x10 or x100 that of 911, we'll be encouraging and cheering the Russians to do just that.
"Somehow I think once that first WMD goes off in an American city and the death toll climbs to x10 or x100 that of 911, we'll be encouraging and cheering the Russians to do just that."
I lived through the end of the cold war and I had family die from Stalinism and it was a much larger problem than Al Quaida - that is not a trade off we should take willingly.
But you are right that the American public reaction might well include panic and a willingness to do and accept anything in the name of safety.
There was little terrorism in Nazi Germany as well (except the state-sponsored kind, of course).
Those regions were islamic already.
I have no reason to doubt that.
Putin said in December 2001 that the Chechnya deal was really about creating a global caliphate. A month later the PM of Singapore announced evidence on a captured PC that indicated El-Jemiaah (sp?) has plans to create a SEAsian Caliphate that would link with regional caliphates in Africa, the ME and the Caucusus Mountains. I have no reason to doubt that this is still the objective.
On every battlefield where you find dead al-Qaeda you will find Chechens. Need I say more?
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