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Islamic studies in Ithaca (the City of Evil meets the Religion of Peace)
©Ithaca Times 2006 ^ | 01/25/2006 | By: Zac DesAutels

Posted on 01/25/2006 8:49:03 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

A government-sponsored program is giving Ithaca College students and faculty the opportunity to learn more about Islamic and Malaysian culture from Dr. Mohammed Zin Nordin, associate professor and dean of the communications school at Universiti Sains Malaysia.

The Fulbright scholarship program, funded by Congress and administered by the State Department, is sending Muslim scholars to 33 colleges and universities throughout America this spring in an effort to enrich understanding and correct misapprehensions about Islamic societies.

Sara Howard, a sophomore ...with a double major in journalism and politics, said she's always wanted to take a class on Islam. "I'm excited, because we are starting at the basics. I don't know anything about any other country besides America, which is really bad."

(Excerpt) Read more at zwire.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: campus; cityofevil; fulbright; islam; ithaca; jihad; jihadinamerica; jihadoncampus; malaysia; university
Ithaca is the City of Evil.


1 posted on 01/25/2006 8:49:05 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; bentfeather; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; John Valentine; ...
City of Evil bump:


2 posted on 01/25/2006 8:50:05 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

3 posted on 01/25/2006 8:53:40 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Will the women have to wear burcacas?


4 posted on 01/25/2006 8:53:57 AM PST by NRA1995 (GOOOOOOO STEELERS!!!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Whats with this "City of Evil" thing? WTF is going on in Itheca?


5 posted on 01/25/2006 8:54:10 AM PST by DesignerChick
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I don't know anything about any other country besides America, which is really bad."

Okaaaaay. That comment can be taken a couple of ways....

6 posted on 01/25/2006 8:55:46 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Have you ever seen anyone around town with an "Ithaca is the City of Evil" t-shirt?
7 posted on 01/25/2006 9:00:59 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: mewzilla

I took it the only way I knew how. She slept through all the multi-cultural classes in high school, never read a meaningful book in her life and is sleepwalking through college. She will make a wonderful journalist someday.


8 posted on 01/25/2006 9:03:31 AM PST by Russ
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Sara Howard, a sophomore ...with a double major in journalism and politics, said she's always wanted to take a class on Islam. "I'm excited, because we are starting at the basics. I don't know anything about any other country besides America...

I am sure the admissions office at IC has a ready explanation for how someone who "don't know nuthin' 'bout nuthin'" got into their fine school.

9 posted on 01/25/2006 9:03:58 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: DesignerChick
Whats with this "City of Evil" thing? WTF is going on in Itheca?

A few reasons why "Ithaca is the City of Evil":

Originally called "Sodom" in frontier days, and home to Lucifer Falls, Ithaca is host to two colleges, Cornell U (aptly nick-named "the Big Red") and Ithaca College (which flies the gay flag over its campus), the two major employers in the area. They ensure that a disproportionate amount of "ivory tower liberals" dominate the city.

Click here to see some "typical" Ithacans. Scary, huh?

With a crew like this in charge, locating copies of National Review or the American Spectator requires a trip out of the City, while Ithaca magazine racks remain well-stocked with copies of The Progressive, and The Nation. Readers interested in exposing themselves to a full range of national opinion are simply out of luck.

As a result of this dominiance, politics in Ithaca runs the gamet from "liberal" to "communist."

For years, the town had an openly socialist mayor. They later elected him to the school board.

Even today, the City and County governments are dominated by democrats and Green party members. Ithaca is so "Green" that Ralph Nader got more votes in Ithaca than George W. Bush, and the NYS Green Party held its 2002 nominating convention there. The current Chair of the County Legislature is a radical former anti-war protester, self-described hippie, who says "My values haven't changed, just my tactics."

Another local political figure, commenting on September 11, said >"I think the U.S. is starting to pay for the fact that it's been a rogue state for years."

As a result, we get lunacy like spending $500,000 to install solar panels on the new library (in cold, dark, upstate NY).

Even law enforcement is subject to political correctness. One former police chief's major concern was "pushing for departmental diversity.". His replacement was picked because they wanted a minority, but he failed the civil service exam twice. The latest chief was chosen simply because they wanted a woman. Her most notable accomplisments are attending topless protests and and banning the U.S. flag from police uniforms.

To make matters worse, the liberals who dominate Ithaca work overtime to impose their ultra liberal agenda on the area children. As the local newspaper recently put it, “In most places, youngsters spend their summers camping, or at the mountains or the beach. In Ithaca, they learn how to become social activists.”

The School District has mandated that elementary school students in the first and second grades be graded on how well they "respect others of varying cultures, genders, experiences, and abilities." It's even listed on the schools' report card. Despite this alleged tolerance, a student who was found reading the bible on her lunch hour was chatised for doing so. Another was directed not to bring a book about Christmas to school.

There's even a taxpayer funded "alternative" (ie, hippie) school that let's students graduate in majors like basket weaving and political activism, and invited convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal to be its graduation speaker .

These schools churn out "educated idiots," who are so liberal, they write editorials that argue "Bin Laden is Human too."

Need more proof? Do a search for "Ithaca" here at FR. You'll see a near daily dose of institutionalized, unfettered, liberal idiocy.

As a result of its unfettered liberalism, Ithaca was voted most enlightened (ie, liberal) city in America by the ultra left Utne Reader. As a good, conservative Freeper, I'm sure you'll agree that, contrary to what Utne says, "liberal" is not "enlightened." Unfettered liberalism is, well, evil.

As the most liberal city in America,"Ithaca is the City of Evil."

10 posted on 01/25/2006 9:06:13 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Russ

"She will make a wonderful journalist someday."

Correction: She will make a wonderful CONVERT someday.

There.



11 posted on 01/25/2006 9:06:24 AM PST by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence!)
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To: NRA1995

Exactly!

Let's see how excited the female students are about Islam when their teacher makes them wear a burkha for a week or two.


12 posted on 01/25/2006 9:06:38 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Sara Howard, a sophomore ...with a double major in journalism and politics, said she's always wanted to take a class on Islam. "I'm excited, because we are starting at the basics. I don't know anything about any other country besides America, which is really bad."

Aaaaah, journalism, politics and Islam! The trifecta. Made all the better when Ithaca is the source. Gee, how wonderful for her, and in just a few years, the lovely Ms. Howard will be unbiasedly 'reporting' news to us Americans... Oh, thank you, Ithaca, for fueling the future for our MSM.

13 posted on 01/25/2006 9:09:14 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Ms. Howard is a member of IC's Amnesty International chapter.

14 posted on 01/25/2006 9:14:10 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker

That explains a lot.


15 posted on 01/25/2006 9:15:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: MplsSteve

Sadly, I see these kinds of young ladies as viewing him as their Svengali, one who enlightens them and frees them. If he should ask, they might just willingly don the burqa. Sigh.


16 posted on 01/25/2006 9:17:58 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: DesignerChick
Good morning.
"Whats with this "City of Evil" thing? WTF is going on in Itheca?"

The same thing that is going on in Berkeley, Santa Cruz or San Francisco.

Austin, the entire state of Massachusetts, they are the same. Pick a city with a university and you get the idea. Blue state, red state, it doesn't matter as long as there is an institute of higher learning nearby. Much of the danger we face as a nation is either made worse or spawned in cities of evil.

Michael Frazier
17 posted on 01/25/2006 9:24:23 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
learn more about Islamic and Malaysian culture

malaysia = islamic apartheid state

Tell them to look up the malaysian "bumiputra" system of islamic religious apartheid and see how they oppress the other half (non-muslim) population.

Perhaps a lesson on how malaysian islamic groups undermine the democratic institutions the Brits left them would be a good subject too.

18 posted on 01/25/2006 9:24:26 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I want people here to learn about Islam too.

ML/NJ

19 posted on 01/25/2006 9:27:27 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This is discouraging at best. It isn't enough that the whacked out religion of pieces is creating enough terrorists, the City of Ithaca wants to add more - provided at taxpayer expense.

So, where are the "separation of church and state" protestors?? ACLU?? Anybody with a functiong brain cell?


20 posted on 01/25/2006 9:40:09 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment
It isn't enough that the whacked out religion of pieces is creating enough terrorists, the City of Ithaca wants to add more - provided at taxpayer expense.

I think you're missing something pretty crucial here. This is the U.S. State Department that is sponsoring this, not the City of Ithaca. Since that means you're among the taxpayers paying for this, you might want to vent your anger at the Secretary of State or her boss.
21 posted on 01/25/2006 9:45:08 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: fortunecookie; mewzilla; NativeNewYorker

I have every confidence Ms. Howard has a long career at the NY Times ahead of her.

Unfortunately.


22 posted on 01/25/2006 9:57:56 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Islam PEACE

Islam = SUBMISSION

23 posted on 01/25/2006 10:25:55 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
As the most liberal city in America,"Ithaca is the City of Evil."

Thank you for the very thorough explanation of Ithaca's cultural and political character.

24 posted on 01/25/2006 10:29:33 AM PST by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Ithaca...one of the first cities that will have its' liberal population
annihilated when Shari'a law becomes the law of New York state.


25 posted on 01/25/2006 10:36:21 AM PST by VOA
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ending Muslim scholars to 33 colleges and universities throughout America this spring in an effort to enrich understanding and correct misapprehensions about Islamic societies.

Correct misapprehensions? I'll be amazed if they can just point out something about Islam that isn't totally appalling.

26 posted on 01/25/2006 10:55:20 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

"A government-sponsored program is giving Ithaca College students and faculty the opportunity to learn more about Islamic and Malaysian culture from Dr. Mohammed Zin Nordin, associate professor and dean of the communications school at Universiti Sains Malaysia."

Well...Isn't that just a wonderful thing for our government to do? Why don't they just invite the tyrant of Iran to speak there, too? I mean, he's a real person with warm, fuzzy thoughts and feelings to be expressed!


27 posted on 01/25/2006 11:03:10 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: mewzilla
I would suggest that she read "A Cup of Trembling" by David Hunt. She will learn all about that wonderfully peaceful religion of Islam (Sarc). If that doesn't scare the stuffing out of her nothing will. Amen.
28 posted on 01/25/2006 11:17:24 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: NativeNewYorker
"Sara Howard, a sophomore ...with a double major in journalism and politics, said she's always wanted to take a class on Islam. "I'm excited, because we are starting at the basics. I don't know anything about any other country besides America..."

I am sure the admissions office at IC has a ready explanation for how someone who "don't know nuthin' 'bout nuthin'" got into their fine school.

They should send her first to nearby Canada. She will be surprised that there is not a line in the ground at the border, or that it is not colored red like on the maps.
29 posted on 01/25/2006 12:22:41 PM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
For a moment there I was like: "Whaaaaa?!?! When has Greece become so concerned with teaching Muslim culture?" Then I saw, "Ithaca, NY" and it all fell into place. [sniker] ;)
30 posted on 01/25/2006 1:25:48 PM PST by apro
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Sounds alot like Minneapolis.


31 posted on 01/25/2006 2:22:28 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
FYI: You may already know this, but there is a fairly popular rock band called Avenged Sevenfold that recently released an album called "City of Evil."

I'm betting that it is very popular in Ithaca.


32 posted on 01/25/2006 2:38:43 PM PST by bourbon
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The Fulbright scholarship program, funded by Congress and administered by the State Department, is sending Muslim scholars to 33 colleges and universities throughout America this spring in an effort to enrich understanding and correct misapprehensions about Islamic societies.

Let your Congressman know how you feel about this program!

33 posted on 01/25/2006 4:17:25 PM PST by TaxRelief
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"I'm excited, because we are starting at the basics. I don't know anything about any other country besides America, which is really bad."-Sara Howard, a sophomore

I'll bet a dollar to a donut she really doesn't know much about American History, either.

34 posted on 01/25/2006 4:54:45 PM PST by Gritty ("Islam us a universal ideology that leads the world to justice"-Ahmadinejad)
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To: NativeNewYorker; Behind Liberal Lines; Russ; poobear; mewzilla; fortunecookie; VOA; Gritty; ...

I trust Ms Howard will learn about Asian values, in particular, that:




1) East Asians do not believe in the extreme form of individualism practiced in the West. We agree that every individual is important. However, he or she is not an isolated being, but a member of a nuclear and extended family, clan, neighborhood, community, nation and state.

2) East Asians believe in strong families. Divorce rates are much lower than those in the West, and Asians do not, as a rule, abandon their aged parents. They believe that the family is the building block of society.

3) East Asians revere education. Unlike the West, this is a value held not only by the elite but by all strata of society. Asian mothers would make any sacrifice to help their children excel in school.

4) East Asians believe in the virtues of saving and frugality.

5) East Asians consider hard work a virtue - the chief reason this region is outcompeting Europe.

6) East Asians practice national teamwork. Unions and employers view each other as partners, not class enemies.

7) There is an Asian version of a social contract between the people and the state. The government will maintain law and order, provide citizens with their basic needs for jobs, housing, education and health care. Governments also have an obligation to treat their people with fairness and humanity. In return, citizens are expected to be law-abiding, respect those in authority, work hard, save, and motivate their children to learn and be self-reliant. Most Asian governments do not pay unemployment benefits, partly because there is little unemployment and partly to avoid the Western disease of welfarism. Asian governments do not make welfare payments to unmarried women with dependent children because teenage pregnancy and illegitimate birth are, fortunately, rare in Asia.

8) In some Asian countries, governments have sought to make every citizen a stakeholder in the country. More than 90 percent of Singaporeans own their own homes. Singapore also has the world's highest percentage of citizens who own shares (50.5 percent, compared to 16.2 percent in Britain, and 11.7 percent in the United States). Each year, employees in the private and public sectors receive a performance-based bonus.

9) East Asians want their governments to maintain a morally wholesome environment in which to bring up their children. A recent survey found that most Singaporeans do not want magazines such as Playboy to circulate in the country. Recently, the democratically elected government in Seoul refused to allow Michael Jackson to perform in South Korea. There is no reason Asians must adopt the Western view that pornography, obscenity, lewd language and behavior, and attacks on religion are protected by the right of free speech.

10) Good governments in East Asia want a free press but, unlike the West, they do not believe that such freedom is an absolute right. We do not want our press to be mere mouthpieces of government. Yet we believe that the press must act responsibly. For example, it has no right to instigate trouble between racial, religious or linguistic groups, or between countries. We also insist that the press should give those whom it has attacked the right to reply.

(taken from http://www.iht.com/articles/1993/12/11/edkoh.php )




Let's see, apart from some aspects of point 1), all of point 6), and partically point 10), all are red state America values. Is Ms Howard going to turn out pro-life and pro-family when she garduates?

Guys, watch out. We may see New York turning into a bright red state in 25 years' time LOL.


35 posted on 01/25/2006 11:13:18 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Hmmm... so the terrorists have found a back door in Idiothaca. Teach American Values first.. on second thought, they would have to know something about that to teach it.


36 posted on 01/25/2006 11:19:20 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: SeaBiscuit

of yes they are, in a twisted way. From my post #35 I note that Malaysia is a strong adovate of Asian values and I posted a list of 10 points from an Asian value supporter. Now apart from a couple of points all read like red state America values. Restricting porn, slashing welfare, discouraging divorce and out-of-wedlock pregnancies, government promoting moral focus, tough on law and order...the list sounds repulsive to American liberals' "values", eh?

In other words, when Ms Howard graduates, she will help turn New Yawk into a red state LOL. ;-)


37 posted on 01/25/2006 11:22:48 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Ithaca might be all those things but mostly its a small town surrounded by beautiful Cayuga lake and farms and orchards......we spent many a July 4th at Cayuga lake at the state park, across from the falls.....we would set up our picnic area and then go up into the orchards and pick Bing cherries......I have terrific memories of that time and that area...............


38 posted on 01/25/2006 11:23:12 PM PST by cherry
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To: NZerFromHK

I meant the lib/socialist Instructors in Idiothaca have no understanding of American Values.


39 posted on 01/25/2006 11:35:13 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: SeaBiscuit

Hehehe, they don't really know what they are adovating. They don't know that their brand of liberalism will end up with a moralist value (although not necessarily "American"). The list of 10 contains a lot of things that are like red state/traditional American values.

I wonder...when they wake up to this fact, will they push Dr Zin Nordin on an early plane home?


40 posted on 01/25/2006 11:38:07 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Many years ago there was a belly-dancing exhibition put on at Cornell. Although I was somewhat young at the time I was able to appreciate that these belly dancers, of which there were a variety, were not only capable of demonstrating their art but were actually also quite attractive and sexy. This all took place in a large auditorium which was packed. Most of the audience seemed to be graduate students from Arab countries, many in native dress. I knew of one such student who was from Bahrain. I suppose this type of show would nowadays be considered both too un-PC and un-Islamic to be put on in Ithaca.


41 posted on 01/25/2006 11:52:40 PM PST by wideminded
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To: cherry

You haven't been back in a while, have you? ;-)


42 posted on 01/26/2006 5:32:12 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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