Skip to comments.Director posits proof of biblical Exodus
Posted on 04/14/2006 5:58:16 AM PDT by timsbella
A provocative $4-million documentary by Toronto filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici claims to have found archeological evidence verifying the story of the biblical Exodus from Egypt, 3,500 years ago.
Religious Jews consider the biblical account incontrovertible the foundation story of the creation of the nation of Israel. Indeed, they celebrated the Exodus Wednesday night and last night with the annual Passover recitation of the Haggadah.
But among scholars, the question of if and when Moses led an estimated two million Israelite slaves out of pharaonic Egypt, miraculously crossed the Red Sea ahead of the pursuing Egyptian army and received the Ten Commandments from God on Mount Sinai, has long been a source of contention.
Absent definitive proof, archeologists have argued variously that the biblical account is simply a nice fable or that it may have happened, but not on the scale suggested by the Book of Exodus. Nor is there any consensus about when it might have occurred.
Now, in Exodus Decoded, Mr. Jacobovici says he has found almost a dozen overlooked relics that confirm the biblical story.
(Excerpt) Read more at theglobeandmail.com ...
Where's your Moses now see? - Nathan
The only Jew in the movie and he looks miscast.
I didn't realize that the number was anywhere near 2,000,000 people.
Or was Holly-wierd just as Anti-Semitic back then [maybe not as great a degree as today] ???
Only 3500 years ago? I have socks and underwear older.
I saw another documentary recently that said there was some evidence that indicated that the Israelites did in fact cross the Red Sea at a narrow (relatively speaking) point and that underwater cameras revealed formations of rock and coral(?) that could possibly be encrusted chariots. None of it was conclusive evidence but it did seem to make sense. Either way, we shall see which is correct.
Maybe you should get out more.
After all, YAHWEH created Man to have mastery of the whole earth.
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Thought this might be of interest. He's a Toronto local.
I've read somewhere that the traditional Mt. Sinai is misidentified and that the real location lies in land controlled by Saudi Arabia. Supposedly the description of the site in the Bible doesn't match the traditional Mt. Sinai but this other location does and has a great deal of archeological evidence but is controlled by Saudi military.
A lot of this makes sense, except for one thing. I don't understand how a volcanic eruption could kill the first born of the Egyptians. The Nile turning red - yes, the frogs, locusts etc. - yes, but the first born of the Egyptians dying? And not the Hebrews because of lamb blood on the door lintels? A volcanic explanation for that just doesn't make sense.
Not sure, but indeed a number of historic religious sites are in the hands of those who would rather keep them hidden, or out and out destroy them. Look at how they keep garbage in the caverns below Temple Mount...everyone loses at the hands of such ignorance.
This will be an interesting film to watch.
I haven't see this show, so I can't speak to it specifically. I do recall another show, possibly from the Learning Channel or National Geographic, which makes similar arguements. Quite compelling. Not so much the first born as death due to the conditions which occured from the previous nine plagues.
I thought that they actually crossed the Sea of Reeds. The Red Sea designation was a bad interpretation that has persisted for centuries.
Acrostic YHWH Jesus
It would explain the Pharasees going ballistic over it.
Has anyone here seen Dean Jones in a video called "St. John in Exhile"? First act is a one-man passion play, and second act is a recounting of Revalation, as if John were speaking to a group of faithful who came to visit him on Patmos. Electric! A wonderful presentation, dramatic, humorous, and it really makes the Disciples seem like people such as you and I, rather than Holy Supermen. I recommend it.
I've seen & heard it spelled & written as such before. Maybe I'm just following the usual American-English manner of "mutilating" any pure forms of a foreign word/term.
but you're right: it is YHWH...or am I supposed to leave out the W.
Anyway, I was just spelling it the way I'd heard it pronounced.
The number of crossing the Red Sea may even be greater than
2,000,000. At the time of the event only men were counted according to some scholars. Why women and children were not counted in the Old Testament I can not answer, I'm sure some can however.
I remember a show on the History CHannel when they were talking about Rameses and Moses. The Egyptians never recorded their defeats, only their victories. And when they did list their victories, they were listed as victories against a certain country or land. But there was one reference to a victory in a raid against the Hebrew people. It was very interesting because it referenced the Hebrews and a people, not as a nation or country. The Pharoh at the time was after Rameses, so the thinking is that this was a small Egyptian raid against the Hebrews before the founding of Israel while the Hebrews were 'wandering the desert.' The show ended with the archeologist standing in front of Rameses munmmy and saying that we were looking at the remains of a man who may actually have laid eyes on Moses.(in an archeologiacally sense the word 'may' is used here, not as a statement of religous faith).
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go to www.ynca.com or www.uonyc.org and read "The Missing "J". It is 48 pages and can be printed.
Thanks! Believing Christians take Exodus as God's Truth and Word, just like believing Jews.
Instead of all the tech on the word Yahweh just use the words,
tell them, (I am sent you).
There are some things that just have to be taken on faith. The need to explain God's miracles and power in view of our finite understanding is senseless. Attempting to explain how natural phenomenon could lead to the plagues or the crossing of the Red Sea ultimately just undercuts our faith. "Dispute not because you see not."
And the Jews use the same tactics on relict's from the Christian era. They, the Jews would not want proof that my Savior Jesus Christ, has already came to the earth and is soon returning with great glory and majesty for those who have excepted him.
I just get carried away thinking of that wonderful coming event.
There is good reason to believe YHWH was pronounced "Yahweh" (i.e. ancient Greek did it iabe or iao).
There is no rational basis for objecting to adding vowels -- unless one will also insist on dropping Abraham for 'brhm, or Jacob for y`qb, and so forth.
I second that. To do otherwise would be to the detriment of both faiths.
I agree, but it's still a wonderful feeling to point to the skeptics and say, "See, it happened, just the way they wrote it did!!!"
Are these some of the photos to which you refer?
Clock balance wheel?
Since no scale is included, at least one photographed "chariot wheel" could be a clock part in an aquarium. The others are quite intriguing. I'd volunteer to do a proper archaeological evaluation (including measurements) -- if the "discoverrs" would share the UTM (GPS) coordinates...
Nonsense! Seeing as it is the Passover/Crucifixion & Resurrection weekend, it is always a good thing to discuss Biblical languages/ linguistics, especially in regards to the Names of GOD.
The most recent interpretation is it wasn't the Red Sea, but the Reed Sea - shallow and as named, full of reeds, but made passable with a tsunami-like occurance. Seems entirely plausible given what we saw in Bande Aceh - and entire beach evacuated of water for many minutes only to be completely emersed with crushing waves. It may sound strange, but when I saw the footage for the first time, that's what came to mind.
Actually, when you learn Hebrew as an adult, they give you a break and put in vowels ;) If you are ever interested, Kolel offers classes in a variety of locations.
He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'
-- Luke 16:41
I respectfully disagree - otherwise why did God give us such inquiring minds and intense curiosity?
Years ago I read that, according to some oral history, YHWH was originally pronouced with 11 syllables. I've long since lost the source of that, and I have no memory of where I got it, so there. ;-)
That's it! Where did you find them?
Why do you think Moe, Curly and Shemp Horowitz of the Three Stooges changed their name to Howard. And they still got screwed.
Financially, yes they did. Even when Moe (legally named Moses) went before the Columbia Pictures Studio heads to negotiate for better pay, they laughed & mocked him.
To this day, the Stooges descendents are trying to get their fathers' well-deserved gain.
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