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Bush Calls U.S. a Nation of Prayer
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Posted on 05/04/2006 12:02:27 PM PDT by gwb43_2004

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To: VOATNOW1

Hint............'separation of church and state' is not IN the Constitution.


61 posted on 05/04/2006 2:38:46 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: VOATNOW1

I agree with you. The President of the United States is a political leader, not a religious leader. It is a very, very bad precedent for the President, any President, to characterize this as a nation of prayer.

Bush would win points with me if he said this is a nation of individual rights...a term now in disuse among politicians and intellectuals. Jimmah started calling it "human rights" and ever since, few politicians defend "individual rights".

Prayer is hardly a fundamental political concept. Rights are. But I don't think most politicians including Bush understand John Locke's ideas about natural rights anymore. The universities have done an excellent job of obliterating America's founding principles.


62 posted on 05/04/2006 2:41:31 PM PDT by The Westerner
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To: The Westerner

You obviously have problems with George Washington too.....


63 posted on 05/04/2006 2:44:36 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Salvation
"IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this third day of May, in the year of our Lord two thousand six, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirtieth."

Prayer Bump.

64 posted on 05/04/2006 3:04:33 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: VOATNOW1

Could it be we might start seeing some leadership qualities his last 2 years? If so, what a waste of the first 6.


65 posted on 05/04/2006 4:09:42 PM PDT by hamiltonbee
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To: hamiltonbee; VOATNOW1
Indeed. NO leadership in the first 5 years.

Just.....
-Multiple tax cuts taking us out of a xlinton recession into a healthy, booming economy and tremendous job growth...
-Leading the world in the War on Terror by defeating the Taliban and the Baathists in record time and freeing 50,000,000 people
-Business and economic policies leading to the lowest unemployment since the 1950's
-Beginning to bring us back to being a culture of life through honoring the sanctity of life and the unborn (not to mention the sanctity of marriage)
-Bringing our military back from near death under the America-hating xlintons
-Leading a revolutionary foreign policy that has opened up the Middle East to democracy and freedom that they have never had before
-Assembling one of the most qualified cabinets in history and leading one of the most moral and noble administrations in history
-Ending the death tax
-Revitalizing small business
-Increasing home ownership

And THAT's just for starters.

You two NEWBIES need to do your homework. You don't have a CLUE about this President.

66 posted on 05/04/2006 7:17:42 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: ohioWfan
You two NEWBIES need to do your homework. You don't have a CLUE about this President.

Well said

67 posted on 05/04/2006 8:29:40 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: gwb43_2004

God bless President Bush for saying this! It's true!


68 posted on 05/04/2006 9:01:15 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ohioWfan
That statement is categorically untrue, and you know it. Critiquing a person's faith with false accusations reveals much about you, pawdoggie.

Madam, I make no accusations about the depth or sincerety of Mr. Bush's faith, and I am sorry that you assumed that I had. It is simply my observation that when the President appears to be in trouble with his "base" (and that would include not just religious conservatives, but Republicans and conservatives of all stripes), his press people tend to flood the media with stories about prayer breakfasts, interfaith services and religious messages.

I certainly believe in the power of prayer, but I also believe that sometimes on this earth we must (as John Kennedy's speechwriter once wrote) truly make God's work our own. Or to put it somewhat indelicately, less praying, and more action!

69 posted on 05/04/2006 10:10:25 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: VOATNOW1

"I'm sure Bush has inspired a fair share of prayer over the future of this country"

Exactly. I'm all for prayer, but Bush needs to put his bible down and start enforcing the laws of this country. He took an oath to up hold the law and he has failed in that oath.

Intelligence! Well said. my point exactly.


70 posted on 05/05/2006 4:35:42 AM PDT by hamiltonbee
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To: pawdoggie
Which, forgive me for saying, always seems to get "deeper" when he runs into trouble with the "base".

This statement is categorically untrue.

You can backtrack all you want, and claim you weren't doing what you WERE doing or saying what you WERE saying, but you made a completely false statement about the President's faith to be 'cute' and that says a whole lot about YOU, and not him.

His faith doesn't change one bit from day to day, nor does his declaration of that faith. You made a false statement (based on ignorance, I presume) and an apology is in order.

As for action, the President lives his faith every single day as well.

If you're not paying attention, that also is your problem and not his. And compounding it by making false statements on a public forum only makes it worse.

71 posted on 05/05/2006 6:21:29 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Kaslin; hamiltonbee; VOATNOW1
I notice that these two newbies (most likely DU trolls) are ignoring the FACTS that I present to counter their attacks on the President.

They both signed on within the past few weeks.......one only two days ago......

DU tag team??

If so, they're scraping the bottom of the barrel over there on the dark side these days. These guys are VERY ineffective trolls. :)

72 posted on 05/05/2006 6:24:50 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: ohioWfan
You can backtrack all you want, and claim you weren't doing what you WERE doing or saying what you WERE saying, but you made a completely false statement about the President's faith to be 'cute' and that says a whole lot about YOU, and not him.

Madam, I just looked at your "bio", and I noticed that you believe that God Almighty appointed George W. Bush to be our President. That explains a lot about your attitude. So I must ask, is God directing President Bush to grant amnesty to millions of people who have violated our laws and our borders? I ask that because even the President's defenders (e.g. Rush Limbaugh) say that the President and Carl Rove have a made a "political calculation" where his stand on illegal immigration is concerned. Did God direct President Bush to work with Teddy Kennedy on a bloated educational budget that still makes no provision to help parents who send their kids to parochial schools (hint: I don't think so)? Did God tell President Bush to allow the Government of Dubai to oversee operations at our seaports?

I hope that God answers President Bush's prayers for wisdom, and that his Administration ends on a positive note. I believe that the President has good intentions, but my Mom always said "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions". Right now we need some leadership. One other question, Madam, just where do you get off telling me what I'm thinking?

73 posted on 05/05/2006 6:52:48 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: ohioWfan

I cannot believe a "born again disciple of Jesus Christ "
would continue to spout the Islamic LIE that Islam is Peace.
I do believe G.W. is more globalist than Christian.


74 posted on 05/05/2006 11:42:04 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: StonyBurk
You can't be 'more globalist than Christian.' Either you have been saved by the blood of Jesus Christ or not.

Your politics may reflect your spiritual condition, but it doesn't determine it.

75 posted on 05/05/2006 11:51:22 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: ohioWfan
"You two NEWBIES need to do your homework. You don't have a CLUE about this President."

They(hamiltonbee; VOATNOW1) have just signed up. And fine ,if they want to discuss some policy issue they need to find another thread.

76 posted on 05/05/2006 1:03:11 PM PDT by gwb43_2004 (I love W)
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To: gwb43_2004
Their entire purpose is to be on a thread where they don't belong and discuss 'issues' that don't belong because their entire purpose is to bash President Bush.

They are as transparent as the day is long. If they think they're fooling anyone, they're more liberal than I suspect.

Kills braincells, you know? :)

77 posted on 05/05/2006 1:10:44 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: ohioWfan

Look at this :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1627516/posts


78 posted on 05/05/2006 1:24:39 PM PDT by gwb43_2004 (I love W)
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To: ohioWfan

NO "born again Christian"would continue to proclaim Islam
is Peace.Ignorance of world religion is understandable-
Ignorance of Scripture is NOT. The Globalism of G.W.Bush
is akin to that of the United Nations. As is his Methodism.
Bush has NOT publically defended Christians under attack.
NOT Gen. Boiken Not The Honorable Roy S.Moore, Not the
Veteran ,Honor Gaurd punished for say "God Bless"at funerals for Christians, Not the Air Force Academy ,Nor
the US Navy chaplains, He said nothing about the Unconstitutional attacks by the godless anti-American ACLU
against public display of Ten Commandments monuments -or
the Mount Soledad Cross--Or the unlawful removal of the
cross at the Barracks in Pearl Harbor.He appoints and
protects unrepentant homosexuals (as ambassadors to Embassies in Catholic Countries--Has not clarified "don't ask-Don't tell" though the Law is homosexual behavior is not
compatible with military service.He may fovor a Federal Marriage Amendment to define marriage as between one man and one woman-but at the same time supports the LIE that
the State needs legitimize what homosexuals do.
IMO a Christian whose politics govern his public acts-and
those act are contrary to Scripture isn't much of a Christian.


79 posted on 05/05/2006 1:31:17 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: StonyBurk
You'll be really disappointed when you have to spend eternity in Heaven with him, won't you, Stony?

But he won't be disappointed to spend eternity with you, if you're with us...........nor will I.

And you know what? A whole lot of Muslims will have been brought out of their spiritual darkness because of the freedom his God-led fight against Islamofascism has allowed, and will spend eternity in the presence of Jesus Christ too, if they accept Him.

The Gospel is now much more likely to be proclaimed than there ever before. (I have a strange feeling that THAT disappoints you too.....)

Pray for him, Stony. Don't condemn him when you can't possibly know what's in his soul. Don't make judgements that you cannot possibly make because of his diplomatic words, or your own political bias.

Don't condemn him. .......PRAY for him.

80 posted on 05/05/2006 2:11:49 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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