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PRESIDENTIAL OBSERVATIONS BY THE SECRET SERVICE
NA | NA | Dave Kulow

Posted on 10/04/2006 8:59:53 AM PDT by dvan

We had a neighbor, when I lived in DC, who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane.

Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer.

Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.

The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current President Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around. When the president flies, there are several planes that also go. One carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft.

Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.

WHAT WAS: Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes, Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness, ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence.

Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady.The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.

Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life.Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all loathed her, and wanted to be on a different detail. Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.

Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against her husband.They were embarrassed for his sake, by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors, Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife.

It was crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other, and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."

Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely.

Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and ccasionally would smile at, or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them.

His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.

WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN: Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton.They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a political way.

Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary, but soon after the election she had her "pegged", and no longer liked her, or associated with her, except for events that were politically obligatory

Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter, and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their security details. Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail.

He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?"

Word of this insult by the former Vice-president quickly spread, and he became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President,and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won.

This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.

WHAT IS: Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest, and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers.

She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation.There is nothing false about her.

This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."

Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect, and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail.

Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail, and he helps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection.

He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent.

It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.


TOPICS: Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; clinton; gore; hillary; kennedy; lbj; secretservice
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To: dvan

My nephew has a friend who served on Marine One who says the same thing about President Bush, the Younger. He always recognizes their presence with a salute and knows their names as well.

I believe that deep down liberals hate the fact that they do not know how to earn the respect of those under command. They therefore have to demand respect, which of course leads to resentment. This attitude is on constant display in matters both public and private.


41 posted on 10/04/2006 9:23:52 AM PDT by hotshu
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To: dvan

Thanks for posting this. Prayers & gratitude for our brave Secret Service personnel. Sounds like they had extra special reasons to celebrate term limits & Gore's defeat!


42 posted on 10/04/2006 9:24:03 AM PDT by MonicaG (Praying for our troops, leadership, Israel & IDF. Thanks to our veterans & their families.)
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To: dvan
Good post!

Amen

43 posted on 10/04/2006 9:24:05 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Buggman
It was in Chile


44 posted on 10/04/2006 9:25:05 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: dvan
"Character counts!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Several things were drummed into my head as I was growing up. These lessons came from my Great Grandmother (Who lived to be 100 Years old) My Grandfather and Grandmother on my Mom's side and my Grandmother on my Father's side (My Dad's Dad died when he was very young) as well as my Mom and Dad.

Manners were the first and foremost teachings. My Grandfather told me NEVER trust anyone who is abusive to those around him/her and especially if they abuse people who are supposedly "under" them in stature. (Boss berating employees. A diner berating wait staff etc.)

To this day I thank each and every waitress or waiter who brings me my food, because I know my Grandparents are watching over me and will hold me accountable when we meet next. ( See you didn't want to get on the wrong side of Grandma Stover, she would have no truck with back sassing youngins. :-D )

45 posted on 10/04/2006 9:25:22 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: HelloooClareece

Confirmed everything posted here, or just that President Bush is a genuine person?


46 posted on 10/04/2006 9:26:29 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: tsmith130

There is a better face picture around here somewhere. He wasn't a happy camper:')


47 posted on 10/04/2006 9:27:05 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Buggman

Here, Somebody dug the blurb out for me the other day:

"U.S. President George W. Bush (R) stops to wave while being escorted by Chilean President Ricardo Lagos into La Moneda Palace, at the beginning of a state visit after the closing of the annual meeting of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) in Santiago, November 21, 2004....Winding up a three-day visit, Bush spoke at a news conference as a new security flap surfaced following an embarrassing fracas on Saturday in which Bush intervened and pulled his Secret Service agent away from Chilean guards. An elaborate state dinner with 200 people Sunday was downgraded to an official working dinner, reportedly because Chilean President Ricardo Lagos balked at Secret Service demands for guests to walk through metal detectors. [Reuters ]"


48 posted on 10/04/2006 9:27:15 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small.)
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To: wagglebee
While what you say is no doubt true, and not at all surprising, it still concerns me to hear of Secret Service agents gossiping this way. The safety of past, present and future presidents can easily be marginalized by their indiscretions. As much as most of us hate BJ and Hitlery, it would still be disasterous for this country if something happened to them as a result of a security breach.

Hmm - I guess I'll have to go back and read between the lines - I saw nothing that would constitute a security breach =

49 posted on 10/04/2006 9:27:46 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: dvan
It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.

President or no president, he's still a country gentlemen.
50 posted on 10/04/2006 9:27:52 AM PDT by JamesP81 (The answer always lies with more freedom; not less)
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To: Jeff Head

It does seem a bit unprofessional, but, what in here would possible violate security?


51 posted on 10/04/2006 9:28:14 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: maine-iac7

I don't know this story...link or story please!


52 posted on 10/04/2006 9:29:20 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: dvan

I was at marine Barracks, Wash. DC, during the 'toon's presidency. The same sentiments about the SR. Bushes and Clitons were echoed by the Marines on the Presidential detail and the Marines that gaurded Camp David. For the record, I was never on either of those details; I do trust the Marines that related this first hand, though.


53 posted on 10/04/2006 9:29:58 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: bella1

When did he serve?


54 posted on 10/04/2006 9:31:07 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: maine-iac7

The fact that they are talking at all is a security concern. If the protectees begin to feel that everything they do might get blabbed by the Secret Service, they will start trying to hide things from the Secret Service and this makes them vulnerable.

This was a key issue made by the Secret Service when they tried to keep from testifying about Monica Lewinsky and in my opinion, was the only valid one.


55 posted on 10/04/2006 9:32:05 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Jeff Head

What security risk is posed???


56 posted on 10/04/2006 9:32:28 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ConservativeDude
Nancy might have been, well, perhaps not quite as nice as Laura

Actually, I think Nancy was probably closer to Hillary then to Laura in terms of friendliness.

I have a sister-in-law, who retired from the LA Times. As part of her job she often co-ordinated special events or visits to the Times by dignitaries. Once she was coordinating a luncheon where Nancy was to be the guest of honor. The question of attire was broached with Nancy's people, who replied that Nancy felt the mood should be subdued, restrained and that dark colors would be appropriate. The word was spread to the attendees.

Nancy upon arrival was wearing a bright 'fuchsia' flower patterned dress. She stood out from the crowd and was, of course, very photogenic. Which was exactly her intent.

I was not a Reagan fan when he was elected, but developed into one while he was President. Nancy though is another matter and I never have gained any respect for her. However, her love and devotion to 'Ronnie' is admirable.

57 posted on 10/04/2006 9:33:18 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Liberals would let Mark Foley be a Boy Scout leader.)
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To: dvan
That all rings true to what I have read elsewhere.

Almost make one feel sorry for Bill - I said almost

58 posted on 10/04/2006 9:34:11 AM PDT by don-o (Monthly donor and proud of it! There is NO free lunch!)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
from 2002 to June 2005. He wasn't there during the clinton years, but many of his coworkers were and pretty much said the same things. He was assigned to Laura Bush a lot and just thought the world of her. It sure was fun going to DC for visits while he was at the WH.
59 posted on 10/04/2006 9:35:24 AM PDT by bella1 (Support the Minuteman Project.)
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To: Jeff Head

None of this information concerns security information.

Just about the behavior of those served.


60 posted on 10/04/2006 9:37:19 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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