Gen. Shalikashvili: Let Gays Serve in Military

Newsmax.com ^ | January 2, 2007 | Newsmax.com staff

[higgmeister]

....the women spent more time in their parked cars than on the consoles...finally, they were all transferred out and new folks were posted in

In 1978 Lajes Field in the Azores had a big wife swapping ring bust. Half of the base personnel were PCS'ed out.

[HardStarboard]

>>>Oh?<<<

Thats just an Imam assisting a worshiper assuming the
proper position to pray to Allah.

Or pointing him more directly toward Mecca. It's gotta be one or the other.

[Antoninus]

The Army general who was Joint Chiefs chairman when the Pentagon adopted its "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays says he no longer opposes allowing them to serve openly.

As if he did originally. The Clinton's would never have appointed him if he did.

[TheCrusader]

"If a soldier executes his duty, then who can slight him. And if there was a reliable "gay" test, I would advocate for no gays in the military, but the fact is, there simply is none."

Another fact is, most men detest homosexual perverts, and certainly don't desire to have one living amongst them in close, intimate quarters. These perverts tend to make people queezy because of their twisted sexual appetites, and certainly most men do not relate to these bizarre, depraved desires. A military full of homosexual perverts will be a military that many good Christian men will absolutely avoid, and this is not good.

I'm not saying that a homosexual pervert is incapable of being a soldier, I'm saying that that is red herring argument. Good soldiering requires a strong, cohesive unity amongst the guys, something that a flaming homosexual deviant probably will never be able to foster among normal men. He will eventually drift towards other homosexual perverts nearby, and the sick 'trists' amongst them will inevitably occur. These "gays" will be secretly hated by most of the other troops, no matter how many 'equal rights' laws they enact to intimidate people in 'embracing' them.

But hey, if this is what today's Soldiers and Marines want to have, go for it. We seem to be going to Hell in a handbasket anway, and not many seem to want to stop the slide into the pit. I'm just glad I saw a better day, when there was still some light shining on peoples' souls.

[ivyleaguebrat]

"I'm just glad I saw a better day, when there was still some light shining on peoples' souls."

Yes.. Your posts sure do make your soul seem bright. /s

[Beckwith]

If you say so, sailor.

[KC_Conspirator]

Big foolish mistake. Shali is a retired Klinton general, which usually does not mean much. Furthermore, he is not part of the military now and cannot make good judgements because he has not been involved in years.

[Candor7]

I agree with all you have said. I just wish that there was a litmus test. Hey , pal pee in the can, and we will decide if you are gay or hetero. Some men might just say they are gay, in time of war, or if they have a honey waiting back home. The whole thing stinks.

[jimfree]

From the man that trivialized the black beret.

[verity]

Do not be sarcastic to a military retiree. :-)

A blood supply is only as safe as the reliability of the product's testing process before being certified as acceptable for medical use regardless of the donor source.

From a personal viewpoint, openly gay persons are unacceptable in the military.

[Candor7]

I agree Mort, you know, I wonder what kind of strategy Hillery has, she has all of these funny little men like Shalikashvili , doing press releases. This should activate the Conserevative base of the Republican party, but then many of us will not vote for a RINO. The Rinos would mostly go along with the service of openly gay soldiers, as a trade off for some other pork barrel agenda they might have.

I hope Shak gets laughed right off the planet.

[xzins]

See #139

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[scripter]

Very good and factual posts you've put into this thread. Thanks for the niaid.nih.gov link. That's a keeper.

[cookcounty]

Funny how this was a controversial issue until we went to war, now that our troops are fighting, shoulder-to-shoulder, and we see daily on TV the value of unit cohesion, almost nobody (Shalli excepted) wants to argue that gays is the military is an important concept.

[cookcounty]

There's only one of these I am familiar with, and it is Israel's Army.

1. It's a conscript army

2. Those openly gay are segregated from the rest.
(which is a matter of controversy there)

I'm not sure where you got your list, or how serious the research was that went into it. Got a link?

[EveningStar]

That's interesting info. Thanks. I got this particular list from Wikipedia. I know. I know. :)

[RavenATB]

"I'm going out on a limb here, but... Israel?"

I think Israel and GB fall into the categories of countries that could defend themselves against a major power, in theater, provided they use nukes, which sort of takes the significant manpower issues component out of the discussion.

[wku man]

Blood transfusions. 'Nuff said.

It is well established that the demographic group most responsible for spreading HIV/AIDS is homosexual males (check the CDC website for corroborating evidence). Since homosexual male soldiers stand a much higher chance of having and spreading HIV, and given the reliance on fellow soldiers for blood transfusions in combat theaters, a unit would have to either leave the homo back in the rear (no pun intended) when it deployed for duty in a combat theater, or risk infecting normal troops with tainted blood from the perverted deviant. To leave the homo back would mean that the unit would be missing part of the team it trained with in peacetime, and would therefore have to find, train and work into the team structure a replacement. This would be detrimental to the unit's readiness.

Therefore, in addition to the damage homosexuals do to the morale and cohesion of any and all units in the military, they would have an adverse effect on unit readiness.

Homosexuals have no place in the military...now or ever.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[Lumper20]

Yes the Black Beret was this idiots idea. Add the fact that we bought those berets from China I believe. I looked up his Bio, not too impressive. The man was commissioned in 59 and somehow managed to keep himself out of RVN until 1968-1969. I wonder who he knew, as we darn sure needed Field Arty officers in RVN. From FO's(Forward Observers) out with Infantry companies to FA (Field Artillery) types commanding artillery units that all Infantry Divisions have as TOE units, the Gen was late in arriving in country by any combat arms standard. 9 years of commissioned service prior to setting foot in war back then is hard to buy for me.

He was a one tour wonder as a MACV Advisor, most likely as a very senior Captain or a junior Major, in 68-69. Quite remarkable for a seasoned FA officer, who was never in prior combat to escape the advisor period and the influx of major US Infantry Divisions in 65.

He was obviously willing to push the do not ask policy, or he would have been history as a man with an office in the White House. I would think he would fade away with his record not to mention many seasoned combat Vets, who had very little regard for him. Very unusual as many OCS grads from Fort Sill's FA OCS were in Vietnam within two years or less of being commissioned.