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Coin Shows Cleopatra's Ugly Truth
BBC ^ | 2-14-2007

Posted on 02/14/2007 8:59:15 AM PST by blam

Coin shows Cleopatra's ugly truth

The images of Antony and Cleopatra are less than flattering

Antony and Cleopatra, one of history's most romantic couples, were not the great beauties that Hollywood would have us believe, academics have said. A study of a 2,000-year-old silver coin found the Egyptian queen, famously portrayed by Elizabeth Taylor, had a pointed chin, thin lips and sharp nose.

Her Roman lover, played by Richard Burton, had bulging eyes, thick neck and a hook nose.

The tiny coin was studied by experts at Newcastle University.

The size of a modern 5p piece (18mm or 0.7in), the artefact from 32BC was in a collection belonging to the Society of Antiquaries of Newcastle, which is being researched in preparation for the opening of a new Great North Museum.

Clare Pickersgill, the university's assistant director of archaeological museums, said: "The popular image we have of Cleopatra is that of a beautiful queen who was adored by Roman politicians and generals.

"Recent research would seem to disagree with this portrayal, however."

The university's director of archaeological museums, Lindsay Allason-Jones, said: "The image on the coin is far from being that of Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton.

"Roman writers tell us that Cleopatra was intelligent and charismatic, and that she had a seductive voice but, tellingly, they do not mention her beauty.

The Hollywood couple may have perpetrated a Hollywood myth

"The image of Cleopatra as a beautiful seductress is a more recent image."

The silver denarius coin would have been issued by the mint of Mark Antony.

On one side is the head of Mark Antony, bearing the caption "Antoni Armenia devicta" meaning "For Antony, Armenia having been vanquished".

Cleopatra appears on the reverse of the coin with the inscription "Cleopatra Reginae regum filiorumque regum", meaning "For Cleopatra, Queen of kings and of the children of kings".

The university hopes more forgotten treasures will come to light before the Great North Museum opens in 2009.

The Roman coin is on display in Newcastle University's Shefton Museum from 14 February.


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KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; anthiny; antony; antonyandcleopatra; cleopatra; cleopatravii; coin; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; truth
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1 posted on 02/14/2007 8:59:17 AM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 02/14/2007 8:59:41 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Perhaps Caesar and Antony just really liked her personality.


3 posted on 02/14/2007 9:01:24 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: blam

Please, no posting of the Helen Thomas pic!


4 posted on 02/14/2007 9:01:33 AM PST by ikka
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To: blam

The queen was a dog.


5 posted on 02/14/2007 9:01:39 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: blam
a pointed chin, thin lips and sharp nose.


6 posted on 02/14/2007 9:02:04 AM PST by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: blam
Beauty, by who's standard? Ours or those who lived 2,000 years ago. I believe the standards of beauty were quite different.


7 posted on 02/14/2007 9:02:54 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: mainepatsfan
Yes, they did. It is well known that her personality was the source of her attractiveness. In an era when woman largely were more demure, she was intelligent, cunning, and willing to challenge the Roman rulers. She was probably pretty good in the sack, too
8 posted on 02/14/2007 9:04:30 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: blam
I would not take the portraits on that coin at face value. In the Roman world of that time, a strong chin and a big nose were considered attractive. If you look at most coins from that era you'll find those same exaggerated features on almost everyone.
9 posted on 02/14/2007 9:05:41 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: blam
All those historical types were homely as hell.
Even the supposed "timeless" beauty of the Mona Lisa, is a barf-o-rama, if you ask me.
10 posted on 02/14/2007 9:05:43 AM PST by wizecrakker (Trying to behave)
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11 posted on 02/14/2007 9:06:19 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: holymoly

ARGH! See my post #4 !


12 posted on 02/14/2007 9:06:23 AM PST by ikka
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To: holymoly

STOP ___ I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORRRRRRRRRRRE


13 posted on 02/14/2007 9:07:53 AM PST by spanalot
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"I would not take the portraits on that coin at face value."

Har har har:
A little numismatist humor there, eh?

14 posted on 02/14/2007 9:08:30 AM PST by Redbob
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To: wizecrakker
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15 posted on 02/14/2007 9:10:20 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: blam

Maybe she had a nice asp.


16 posted on 02/14/2007 9:10:26 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: blam

Ugh! I can't tell Antony from Cleo!


17 posted on 02/14/2007 9:11:22 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: blam
Which side of the coin are the male and female?

The side I took as Cleo looks more like a man!
18 posted on 02/14/2007 9:12:35 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: ikka
ARGH! See my post #4 !

Oh jeez. I must've been formatting the HTML for the pic in my post, when you posted. Honest.

19 posted on 02/14/2007 9:13:08 AM PST by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: PUGACHEV

Boy, that sounds reasonable to me. Now that you mention it, you have to wonder at that time if realistic portraits were even done on coins. Even that is a stretch to assume for so long ago.


20 posted on 02/14/2007 9:14:37 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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