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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Iwo Jima

Broke my dad’s heart when I went to UT. He was an Aggie also.


10,501 posted on 04/25/2007 8:25:11 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
He was a mayor. That in no way proves he can win a nationwide election

Aside from his liberal leanings, I find this fact bothersome too. I would have to go back to the depths of my memory bank, but has anyone ever tried this type of leadership jump before?

Secondly, he has had not one, but two chances to keep HRC out of the Senate, which would have given him a chance to prove himself on the national level.

10,502 posted on 04/25/2007 8:25:16 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: Beagle8U

I would like to see what makes people think that Rudy could do anything differently better on terrorism than Hunter? Or Thompson?


10,503 posted on 04/25/2007 8:25:26 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team
Now, if you don't mind, would you put them in chronological order, along with their join date and a short description of their zottation? :-)

As if to create some sort of a memorial to/for them?

Why?

10,504 posted on 04/25/2007 8:25:40 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: CindyDawg

Head slumped down...yes. I’ve taken many lashings :)


10,505 posted on 04/25/2007 8:26:15 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

What makes you think they can hear ??...;0)


10,506 posted on 04/25/2007 8:26:32 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: presently no screen name

— You did add much to this thread, that’s a given. A good sense of humor is a plus and you have it. Add creative and courageous - considering the climate

You are kind to say I am funny. Personally, I crack myself up, and I am pleasantly surprised when others ‘get it’, too. Thanks for feeding my scrawny little ego.

As for adding to this thread, I am not skilled at verbal ‘debate’—if, indeed, that describes what is going on here. I’m not easily offended and tend to give what others say the benefit of a doubt. I’m also not well-read politically, which is a great disadvantage when the cartridge-brass piling up in the trench begins to get knee high.

Besides, I’m not really needed. There are plenty of forum members here with the warrior spirit (which I can only parody) and know-how to bring ‘em in, set ‘em up, and get out of the way so Mr. R can take them out.

As for getting taken out myself, it could happen. I’ll still be able to lurk though, which is FR’s version of the afterlife.

Back up the thread there is a list of ‘removed rouges’, and I looked at their posting histories for patterns. Rooting for Rudy is not a mortal sin, but denigrating conservative values (as listed here and elsewhere ad nauseum) is. I’ve no target on my chest on that account.

Also fatal are hit-and-run attacks, where someone posts some unsupported assertion(s) and then doesn’t respond to the rebuttals before running off to post the same dreck on the next thread. Again, not guilty.

Finally, poking Mr. R in the eye and laughing about it is akin to making toast while bathing. I don’t know him personally, but I appreciate what he has made here and admire what he is trying to do with his creation. I haven’t read many of his posts, but his command of rhetoric, while much better than mine, seems to be less than remarkable. Nevertheless, I read his message loud and clear, and it resonates with my core beliefs. His communication skill isn’t as important as that of those he has gathered around him, here at FR. Their presence says more than either he or they alone can express.

As for this post giving the game away—doesn’t matter because the game can’t resist the lure and will come on to it despite what better judgement they may possess.

Shhh! Be vewy kwiet—we’re hunting wabbits!


10,507 posted on 04/25/2007 8:27:01 PM PDT by rbookward (When 900 years old you are, type as well you will not!)
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To: del4hope
but two chances to keep HRC out of the Senate, which would have given him a chance to prove himself on the national level.

That's exactly what he didn't want...a Senate track record.

10,508 posted on 04/25/2007 8:27:31 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: politicalwit
>>Gig ‘em, Aggies.
As a UT grad I resent that 10,000th post!!! Hook'em Horns!

Uh, oh...

Glad I'm at a safe distance out here in California!

:-)

10,509 posted on 04/25/2007 8:27:39 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Do you think the media might make a big noise about the fact that the police and firefighters in NYC had the same radio communications systems during 9/11/01 as they had during the first WTC bombing in 1993?

I do.


10,510 posted on 04/25/2007 8:28:47 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: Kevmo

Great! I just met a guy who flies out from San Diego to DC with him on Mondays; he says Duncan Hunter is a great guy with a good sense of humor. I don’t think, however, he would find much funny about this thread.


10,511 posted on 04/25/2007 8:28:52 PM PDT by merry10 (False Dilemna)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

“What makes you think they can hear ??...;0)”

Well, I can understand the whole “blinded by the light” concept, but come on, bugs have been exploding for days now. The neighbors can even here the getting zapped! :)


10,512 posted on 04/25/2007 8:29:07 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

Just checking to see if that is what you really meant?

Meant about what?


10,513 posted on 04/25/2007 8:29:41 PM PDT by merry10 (False Dilemna)
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To: vox_freedom; dukakis kerry the dream team

Their memorial resides, eventually, in the viking kitty litterbox.


10,514 posted on 04/25/2007 8:30:04 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank You FR for the “ping” as we missed this article by Jim Robinson.

At this time we at the RQSR are not in support of anybody in particular in the campaign for the Presidency of the United States, however we are adamently opposed to selection of Rudy Guiliani as the Republican Candidate.

The article by Jim Robinson highlights the vast majority of the reasons we are in agreement.


10,515 posted on 04/25/2007 8:30:50 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Kevmo

I think they should read the ENTIRE thread, not pings from me.


10,516 posted on 04/25/2007 8:31:21 PM PDT by merry10 (False Dilemna)
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To: merry10
I don’t think, however, he would find much funny about this thread.

I don't find much funny with this thread, but it was necessary, and overdue, IMO.

10,517 posted on 04/25/2007 8:31:21 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

BOO HOO


10,518 posted on 04/25/2007 8:31:48 PM PDT by merry10
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To: del4hope
I've tried to figure out how such reasonable people could be so pro "Rudy" I don't dislike him but to me it's like voting for Hilary. It's hard for me to listen to NYC , since they were the ones that gave us Hillary to begin with.

If 911 had happened...say in Houston and Mayor White(?) had won local hearts, would that qualify him for president?

10,519 posted on 04/25/2007 8:31:57 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: jwalsh07

This sort of thing seems to happens every couple of years.


10,520 posted on 04/25/2007 8:32:02 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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