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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Gumlegs; Jim Robinson
From your home page: “Now lurking elsewhere after nearly ten years.”

On your home page you say you are now lurking elsewhere and you link to Darwin Central. Perhaps it’s time for you to join your friends over there if you don’t like what FR is about anymore. Just a suggestion. Hope you find reason to stay, but.....

10,981 posted on 04/26/2007 9:50:37 AM PDT by dmw (Conservatives DON'T vote for liberals.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Thanks Knitting - I remember that from a long time ago.

On the serious side, the socialists use this to their advantage. They know that if they have unfettered access to the minds of our children, they will control the country in two generations - I hate to say, but they are getting close.

this probably the single most important reason to reclaim the education system.

If Rudy or Hilliary become President, I'm afraid any hope of that is lost.

10,982 posted on 04/26/2007 9:51:41 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: wagglebee

“”There have been several long-time FReepers who, possibly like yourself, were either never conservative in the first place “”


That seems to be the bottom line, if you aren’t truly conservative, then at some point you will come to find that you are not “like minded” with them , even if it takes ten years.


10,983 posted on 04/26/2007 9:51:42 AM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: Dog Gone; Jim Robinson

This isn’t a fund raising thread. Read Jim’s original post.

As far as people getting banned, many of them have basically asked for it. The posting guidelines are clear. The consequences of violating them have been made clear for almost a decade. Anyone who continues to violate those guidelines knows what’s coming and have no one but themselves to blame.


10,984 posted on 04/26/2007 9:53:15 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Damn, killed another thread.


10,985 posted on 04/26/2007 9:56:06 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

No one can kill this thread. ;-)


10,986 posted on 04/26/2007 9:56:45 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: metmom

I read Jim’s original post, but I’ve also read all the following posts.

It doesn’t bother me if this place is purged of liberals, but I think that net has been spread pretty wide.

And there is fundraising going on in this thread. I’m not blind.


10,987 posted on 04/26/2007 10:02:48 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: EternalVigilance

It is the undead thread!

It is a manifestation of those whose hearts cherish liberty and the American way, following in the dreams of the Founder’s footsteps.

(OK, I’m in a poetic mood. I’ll be back shortly. I have to run an errand.)


10,988 posted on 04/26/2007 10:03:49 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Dog Gone; metmom
It doesn’t bother me if this place is purged of liberals, but I think that net has been spread pretty wide.

Is there a SINGLE non-liberal who has been banned on this thread?

And the "fundraising" is actually some FReepers pledging money, Jim did not ask for it, and the thread had nearly 10,000 posts before that even started.

10,989 posted on 04/26/2007 10:05:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: EternalVigilance
Crappy answer.

Yeah, because it's the one you didn't want to hear.

10,990 posted on 04/26/2007 10:05:16 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: metmom

“”Actually, evos and DC members want to be banned because just quitting doesn’t cut it. But being banned can be worn like a badge of honor and they’ll get their little *I’ve been banned from FR* laurel wreath. Then they can have their little shred FR and JR, high five, back slap fest.””


I agree, and that proves that this thread was necessary, and it explains it too, and it should answer those freepers doubts who are upset by this thread.


10,991 posted on 04/26/2007 10:05:44 AM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: Jim Robinson

Is this the thread that got everyone banned?

I’m sorry to see some go, but if we had to sacrifie half the posters to get MiaT’s screeds off the air, then it was well worth it!

Hillary is scary, but Mia’s mannequins were more spooky than Cho writings.


10,992 posted on 04/26/2007 10:07:28 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"In the same proportion that ignorance and vice prevail in a republic, will the government partake of despotism." - Charles Sprague
10,993 posted on 04/26/2007 10:09:26 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: Dog Gone
Yeah, because it's the one you didn't want to hear.

No. It's because it has the same odor as the threats I referred to.

10,994 posted on 04/26/2007 10:10:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: Dog Gone; metmom; EternalVigilance
DG is correct about the fact there is fundraising on this thread - and he's a good guy, and is a long-term financial supporter of FR.

I think the most obnoxious of the Rudy boosters are gone - the folks who weren't just content to push Rudy, but who also sought to attack many conservative values such as pro-life and pro-gun - such as questioning Fred's pro-life bona fides even though they didn't give a fig that Rudy is pro-abort and belittled pro-life values.

But we shouldn't try to make this a completely Rudy-free site, IMO. Like it or not, the guy is a contenter for the GOP nomination, and it helps us Rudy critics sharpen our game to have some pro-Rudy threads posted, as long as they are content to not try and use FR as a means to bash conservatism and conservative candidates.

DG, in turn, you gotta realize that folks like EV and Spiff had been stalked and harassed by many of those who have been banned. So they are justified in enjoying the turn of events here where those folks are getting their comeuppance.

10,995 posted on 04/26/2007 10:12:03 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Spiff

meant to ping you to post 10,995


10,996 posted on 04/26/2007 10:12:47 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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10000?


10,997 posted on 04/26/2007 10:12:54 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

11000?


10,998 posted on 04/26/2007 10:13:09 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

10,999 posted on 04/26/2007 10:13:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: jedward

ooops :)


11,000 posted on 04/26/2007 10:13:49 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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