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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: tiredoflaundry

WooHoo! Flamingo!


12,141 posted on 04/27/2007 6:31:31 AM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Chena

“I didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. ;)”

They have turnips and trucks in Alaska. I didn’t know you were Alaskan. So my Maryland Blue Crab bet offer was quite coincidental. I like my tasty Blues better than the Kings. Size does not matter lol.


12,143 posted on 04/27/2007 6:35:48 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: DCPatriot
"Politics aside, those are some good people. ;^("

Maybe so, but they were ... shall we say ... not so nice on this thread. I expected better.

12,144 posted on 04/27/2007 6:40:33 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Iwo Jima

But I got 12,000 by accident!


12,145 posted on 04/27/2007 6:44:57 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: MrEdd

Meany!


12,146 posted on 04/27/2007 6:45:04 AM PDT by right way right
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Good morning placeholder ping-type thing. Or something.

}:-)4


12,147 posted on 04/27/2007 6:51:52 AM PDT by Moose4 ("(Rudy's) the exact same animal as Hillary only he wears a dress." --Jim Robinson)
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To: betty boop

Rudy and Hillary...twin peas in a pod...


12,148 posted on 04/27/2007 6:56:16 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: metmom

Well, I thought my super scientific guys comment was dripping with enough sarcasm, but I guess next time I’ll have to add more. :)


12,149 posted on 04/27/2007 7:03:12 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: All
This thread is moving so fast it is hard to keep up but I do have one question because I haven't seen an answer yet (although I may have missed it). I have seen several posts regarding the forum's leadership not supporting Bush in 2001 and have personally witnessed the flaming/banning on anyone not supporting Bush after he was elected.

So, the question that has been asked is "considering the 180 that was done by forum leadership with Bush in 2001, would that same 180 be done with Rudy if he is elected?"

I'm not raising this point as means of supporting Rudy (because I don't) but I think the members of FR need to know how to tread going forward when posting their opinions.
12,150 posted on 04/27/2007 7:04:42 AM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: metmom

I think 2 have PHd’s and the rerst either hold lesser degrees or no training at all.


12,151 posted on 04/27/2007 7:04:52 AM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: Maximus of Texas
I'm not raising this point as means of supporting Rudy (because I don't) but I think the members of FR need to know how to tread going forward when posting their opinions

Riiiiiiight! Weren't you backing up sully last night? Who's your new tag team partner?

12,152 posted on 04/27/2007 7:08:13 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08 (I'll add Thompson if he ever decides to enter the race))
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To: Jim Robinson; MarkLevinFan; holdonnow

On President Reagen’s 96th birthday, Mark Levin played this speech from 1964. Even though it was 43 years ago, so many of the President’s points apply today.

It is about 30 mins. long, but it is worth the time to listen. Click on the “speaker icon”. There is commentary from Mark at the end of the speech.
Thanks to MLF for archiving the speech.

http://marklevinfan.com/index.php?s=Reagan+%2B+Goldwater

Mr. Jim, if you feel this is not appropriate for this thread,I will understand , but I thought it would help us focus.

It is also so wonderful to hear President’s Reagen’s voice again!


12,153 posted on 04/27/2007 7:13:29 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The greatest danger to our troops is the Congress of the United States.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Now that’s both funny AND offensive.....my favorite kinda post!


12,154 posted on 04/27/2007 7:13:38 AM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: commonguymd
You accuse others of not being entitled to opinions because you assume they don’t donate as much as you.

That's a mischaracterization of what I said, and it completely ignores the original comment to which I responded.

I really don't wish to discuss it further. Peace.

12,155 posted on 04/27/2007 7:16:21 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: samadams2000
If we have no Washington in our time, I will take someone that can play him on tv. (Thompson)
I like that; when did he say that? Source?
12,156 posted on 04/27/2007 7:18:23 AM PDT by redtetrahedron ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you" - Jer 1:5)
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To: CAluvdubya

I was backing his question, which is what I reiterated a few posts above. No where did I see in sully’s post where he was backing Rudy. He asked a question, a very legitimate question. Would you care to answer it?


12,157 posted on 04/27/2007 7:21:58 AM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: Elyse

It’s early (which for me is before 4 PM- I’m a hardcore night person) which is probably why I didn’t pick up on it too quickly.


12,158 posted on 04/27/2007 7:25:54 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

You’re here early too eh? It’s a great morning!


12,159 posted on 04/27/2007 7:27:18 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Mom MD

For some people, it looked like the CREVO issue was just an organizing principle that gave them a chance to war from the tone of their posts...much nastiness and aggression. Each new news story was another battle to be wrought.

Not my cup of tea at all.


12,160 posted on 04/27/2007 7:30:37 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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