Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[jedward]

I mentioned you in a thread up a few, but forgot to add your name. I’ll plead newbie guilt...ooops.

[jedward]

Did you expect anything less (lol)

[EternalVigilance]

Abortionism: on the right track, ulimately a states issue.

Baloney. No state has the right to alienate any God-given, unalienable right, most especially the foremost right: the right to live.

[BIGLOOK]

I agree with Jim Robinson or I wouldn't post this.

Giuilani was a US Attorney and later Mayor of NYC. I don't recall his career as a legislator nor his appointment as a Federal Judge. Never heard that he had a medical degree either.

Following the existing law laid down by the Supremes and the legislature is the bane of politicians. The Supreme Court passed judgment on a bad notion, a bad case or Roe v. Wade and it became law. Wrongful law, until reviewed and hopefully overturned.

The method to changing the law is to change the courts.....which is done politically.

[EternalVigilance]

Gun control: Headed in the right direction, actually a states issue.

Again, not a states issue. Second Amendment rights are inalienable, and apply everywhere within the territory of the United States.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Nope...;0)

[jedward]

Your correct

[jedward]

Status Update?

[EternalVigilance]

Giuliani is a leader.

A liberal leader. Why do you want to pull the country in behind a liberal leader?

Giuliani is proved as tough on crime.

He flaunted the law to protect hundreds of thousands of lawbreakers: foreign nationals who have crashed our national gates. "Tough on Crime"? Squeegee men, maybe, but that's pathetic in the larger scheme of things.

Giuliani really is a pretty decent man.

Actually not.

[dukakis kerry the dream team]

Giuliani really is a pretty decent man. Actually not.

Hoo rah.

[jedward]

“Giuliani really is a pretty decent man.”

That actually made me nautious reading it.

[dukakis kerry the dream team]

Think of it as "pretty decent in a dress".

Wait; nevermind.

[jedward]

Politics and all the BS aside, I just think about the ladder to the Mayors seat in New York City (lol) Sometimes there some missing rungs from the climb up once they get there...if you know what I mean :)

[dukakis kerry the dream team]

Well, NYC, I mean...

[jedward]

And not to be misunderstood on my post, but one no doubt stomps on many heads on the climb up that ladder...

[jedward]

By gosh, he’s still with us. Yea! We should celebrate for the victory of Conservatism when someone doesn’t get zapped! That’s good!

[dukakis kerry the dream team]

And not to be misunderstood on my post, but one no doubt stomps on many heads on the climb up that ladder...

No doubt, but I don't get your point...

[jedward]

With no evidence in front of me I would still bet that he is not a decent man.

[jedward]

“but I don’t get your point...”

I often don’t get me point ;)

[BIGLOOK]

You believe I support Giuliani as a presidential candidate and you are mistaken. I credit him with doing something no other NYC Mayor had done previous to his administration and credit him for his work reining in the Mob that existed in NY.

I'd posted much earlier that while I didn't endorse his candidacy that I understood him.