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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Jim Robinson
Standing with you 110%!


14,881 posted on 04/29/2007 11:02:48 AM PDT by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!!)
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To: rbmillerjr
I was a tad disappointed to see your post #14,354 was deleted, for it shines a bright light on your character, errr lack of character. Fortunately, with the wonders of the internet, I am able to reproduce your post into a reasonable likeness of its original format:
To: NautiNurse

[ugly words excerpted]

As far as my conservative credentials, I don’t have to justify myself to you you cookie baker. I maintain a family with young children and run a small business.

[libelous accusations excerpted]...

...and aren’t you a nautinurse...nauti nauti


14,354 posted on 04/28/2007 10:56:15 PM PDT by rbmillerjr

Now, let's focus on your "you you cookie baker" comment. In the context of your post, this appears to be another pointed spear in your barrage of insults and bully tactics. Indeed, I do bake cookies--albeit only for special occasions these days. Lots of good people bake good cookies. Some of my best friends bake cookies. My mother bakes cookies.

What is your problem with cookie bakers?

Your scornful "you you cookie baker" label reminds me of another aspersion against cookie bakers--by a famous socialist, crusty pantsuit-wearing liberal. The quote is posted below to refresh your memory. Posting quotes from famous people has become tres chic around here lately.

I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies--Hillary Clinton

Your attack on cookie bakers bears a striking resemblance to Hillary Clinton's snide remark about cookie bakers. Hillary--is that you in there, hiding behind the male moniker of rbmillerjr?

14,882 posted on 04/29/2007 11:08:53 AM PDT by NautiNurse (I am a proud cookie baker.)
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To: tioga

That Rudy is the front running candidate just shows you where the Republican Party is these days - on an ever leftward drift with the rest of the US.

I do think he showed fortitude and leadership as mayor of NYC, but it’s discouraging when the conservative candidates are actually pretty far to the left.


14,883 posted on 04/29/2007 11:12:38 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Grand Post.....


14,884 posted on 04/29/2007 11:13:06 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: La Enchiladita

Cromwell did bad things...but even a stopped clock has good information sometimes...

Sometimes we quote stuff not because of who said it, but because the quote says stuff that is interesting/neat/cool. Attributing the source is not necessarily an endorsement of the person - it’s saying, “Hey, I didn’t write this, and I’m not a plagarist.”


14,885 posted on 04/29/2007 11:13:21 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Kevmo

Thanks for an actual link Kevmo. I had heard references to that place but wanted to see for myself.

What a sewer!


14,886 posted on 04/29/2007 11:15:54 AM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: si tacuissem

I’m curious as to how you arrived at the 800 number...Surely you didn’t manually count each post?!


14,887 posted on 04/29/2007 11:18:15 AM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: CedarDave

What I’m seeing is very sad


14,888 posted on 04/29/2007 11:19:00 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Luke21

“bald headed god.”


I’m not a Rudy basher...but that’s funny no matter who you are...;)

btw...i’ve a glabrous noodle... ;)


14,889 posted on 04/29/2007 11:22:00 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: Mo1
What I’m seeing is very sad

Then why don't you brighten your day by going someplace else? Seriously.
14,890 posted on 04/29/2007 11:23:30 AM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: SierraWasp

Thank you my good friend.


14,891 posted on 04/29/2007 11:23:38 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: processing please hold

No thanks, let rudy retire to a quiet private life in San Fransisco where he can participate in gay parades to his hearts content.
***Thanks a lot. Dump him here in the bay area. You may have come up with one reason why I should vote for this guy.


14,892 posted on 04/29/2007 11:23:58 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Kitty Mittens

(((Kitty Mittens)))


14,893 posted on 04/29/2007 11:25:15 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: chasio649
Yeah, mine bounces the glare off pretty good. But my minister had a great line, he said, “This guy Giuliani has the biggest libido since Bill Clinton.”
14,894 posted on 04/29/2007 11:26:46 AM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team
Then why don't you brighten your day by going someplace else? Seriously.

Well .. you proved my point

So tell me .. what was you old sceen name??

14,895 posted on 04/29/2007 11:29:20 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Reagan Man
A crazy falsehood, posted by one wacky poster. Clearly a nights rest didn't help your forum demeanor. You need a long vacation.

I don't know if you're being dense on purpose or what. LOL Yes, I actually accused YOU of being a Giuliani supporter and I must admit that I did it on purpose. You have wrongly accused me of being a Giuliani supporter in the past and you continue to do so. Now, dear man, how does it feel when someone implies that YOU are a Rudy supporter when you know that you are not.

14,896 posted on 04/29/2007 11:32:43 AM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Mo1

You didn’t answer my question.


14,897 posted on 04/29/2007 11:34:52 AM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team

nice dodge


14,898 posted on 04/29/2007 11:35:47 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Mo1

You didn’t answer my question.


14,899 posted on 04/29/2007 11:37:03 AM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: Kevmo
"I see you’re using the latest Howlin tactic of “supporting” some other candidate while spending the bulk of your time whining about why rudy isn’t respected by this forum."

See, this is just additional proof that you haven't read - or learned from - a darn thing in this thread.

You seem to claim that I'm "supporting" other candidate(s) while "whining" about why Rudy isn't being respected here on FR. Unfortunately, your premise is faulty. In fact, it's not even based in fact at all.

I have repeatedly expressed my support, at this early stage of the political process, for Thompson and then Hunter. My consternation continues, and I will put this in caps to make it very clear, because I DO NOT APPRECIATE THE WAY FELLOW FREEPERS ARE BEING TREATED AS PART OF THE GREAT PURGE OF 2007. Numerous CONSERVATIVE members, who have made it clear as day that they do not support Rudy at all, have also voiced their concerns. Instead of even listening to them, they are instead labeled as Rudy-Bots, mocked, repeatedly sworn at, and basically told to go to hell. Is this something you're proud of?

Regardless, if this is the type of forum you wish to be a part of, then it is I who wishes you the best of luck. You're in the Big Time now. Make the most of it while this forum has any relevance at all...
14,900 posted on 04/29/2007 11:39:01 AM PDT by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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